Ah right. The obituary says death by covid. So what is the real cause?
I enjoyed listening to his rhetoric when he was a radio talk show host.
we wear masks in boulder bro
Of course, I did not see eye to eye with Herman Cain's politics and was concerned about the allegations of sexual harassment. But he was a refreshingly original guy in a sea of white conservatives. He was 74 and was working on a TV show. He survived stage 4 colon cancer only to then be taken down by COVID 19. He was not at deaths door and had many years left. My mother had a stage 4 sarcoma at about the same age, survived and is now very healthy at 80. But she cannot go out, cannot see her children or grandchildren. Cannot see her friends because she is immunocompromised. Living with the virus is not an option. It means that all of us will head into our golden years as prisoners in our own homes.
CNN to the core wrote:
Ah right. The obituary says death by covid. So what is the real cause?
Covid19. He was in the hospital since July 2nd. He was rushed because he had trouble breathing. He attended the trump rally in Tulsa on June 20 without a mask, without social distancing.
He died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer.
M.D. wrote:
He died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer.
As per his own website, he's been in remission since 2011. No mention of it coming back.
There is no proof he got the virus at the rally. It's a 14-day incubation period and he could have got it anytime before or after it.
true1 wrote:
CNN to the core wrote:
Ah right. The obituary says death by covid. So what is the real cause?
Covid19. He was in the hospital since July 2nd. He was rushed because he had trouble breathing. He attended the trump rally in Tulsa on June 20 without a mask, without social distancing.
June 20 to July 2nd is not 14 days. If we use the 14-day incubation time window he would have got COVID the day before he went to the rally.
trollism wrote:
M.D. wrote:
He died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer.
As per his own website, he's been in remission since 2011. No mention of it coming back.
People will say and believe anything to keep living in their world of denial.
People like "MD" are damaging this country.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
There is no proof he got the virus at the rally. It's a 14-day incubation period and he could have got it anytime before or after it.
Realistically this *is* true, yes.
For instance, he could have gotten it some days before the rally and then been "sharing" it while at the rally.
Nice guy.
formerly present wrote:
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
There is no proof he got the virus at the rally. It's a 14-day incubation period and he could have got it anytime before or after it.
Realistically this *is* true, yes.
For instance, he could have gotten it some days before the rally and then been "sharing" it while at the rally.
Nice guy.
Ugh, plenty of asymptomatic people may have spread it in general throughout the country. Your point?
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
true1 wrote:
Covid19. He was in the hospital since July 2nd. He was rushed because he had trouble breathing. He attended the trump rally in Tulsa on June 20 without a mask, without social distancing.
June 20 to July 2nd is not 14 days. If we use the 14-day incubation time window he would have got COVID the day before he went to the rally.
Incubation period is 2 to 14 days. That's time between exposure and first symptoms. He tested positive 11 days after the Tulsa rally, and likely had symptoms before he felt he needed to be tested. He was admitted to the hospital July 1st, 2 days after testing positive. It's not a certainty that he got it at the Tulsa rally, but it's certainly within the timeframe. The recklessness of being so anti-mask and still going into crowded public spaces as an at-risk person is what killed him, whether it was acquired at the Tulsa rally or not.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
He was more than likely murdered by the Deep State to help cut down the number of black conservative voices in an effort to stimy the migration of black voters to the conservative side.
First of all, it's "stymie."
Second of all, there is no way DS could have got to him in the hospital. It was actually probably the Ventilator that killed him, but the liberal media will NEVER report that.
Third of all, DS has much bigger black targets that Herm Cain.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
true1 wrote:
Covid19. He was in the hospital since July 2nd. He was rushed because he had trouble breathing. He attended the trump rally in Tulsa on June 20 without a mask, without social distancing.
June 20 to July 2nd is not 14 days. If we use the 14-day incubation time window he would have got COVID the day before he went to the rally.
14 days is the upper end of the window (exposure to symptoms) which varies from 2 to 14 days. More typical is a few days to onset of symptoms, earlier for older persons, and about a week from onset to hospitalization.
We don't know that Cain was infected due to attendance at the Tulsa rally, but the timeline is entirely consistent with that being the case. If we take "due to attendance" to include the time window and activities and events including travel to and from the rally, and given that there were persons associated with the campaign that tested positive around the event, it's not unlikely there was contagion at the event.
In 2006, Cain was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer in his colon and metastases to his liver and given a 30 percent chance of survival. Cain underwent surgery and chemotherapy following the diagnosis, and the cancer was subsequently reported to be in remission.
Any chance something other than Covid was the real driver of his death?
The odds of someone with Stage IV cancer in his colon that metastases to his liver remaining alive and cancer free is quite low.
The odds of making it five years is 11%.
He made 14.
He made it 14 years after Stage 4 Cancer, which is fantastic, and his life story is inspiring. The timing is absolutely right for him to have caught COVID from the Tulsa rally. The opportunity was also ripe. Eight Trump staffers for the rally tested positive. Cain was seated close to many, none wearing masks. 2-14 days incubation period makes this very likely, as was his admission to the hospital. Pride goeth before the fall.
M.D. wrote:
He died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer.
He didn't and you know it. Why lie? We all know he was hospitalized since July 2, 2020. He was rushed to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing.
When you or one of your family members die of Covid19, we will make sure to lie and say you died of stage 4 colon cancer