Does stopping during runs to stretch or hydrate or some other reason ruin the purpose of the run? for example, i usually run to practice (1.5 miles) and then stop and stretch with the team for awhile before going out and running, say, another 6 miles. then i will stop again for the end of practice, and then run home. i count this as 9 miles, but does it really count? is it as useful as doing all 9 at once?
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It's better than doing just 6.
its better not to because stopping gives you a chance to recover aerobically, which ruins the workout.
I have been wondering the same thing. I for one believe that it is not as beneficial to stop for a few minutes and start up again.
I'm not sure who it was, possibly Lydiard, that said that stopping for more than 15 seconds in a run ruins the workout.
12 seconds ruins it
run439083409 wrote:
12 seconds ruins it
Absoluely no evidence for this.
That's like when Lydiard said humidity was good because the sweat doesn't evaporate. Uh, no.
Count it as 9. But you have more of a warmup, run, and cooldown scenario going on. Still 9, but not the same as a 9 mile run would be.
Depends what you're trying to accomplish. Back in my base training days I'd stop occasionally on my recovery days. I'd run easy for 20 min's and then stop to chat with someone I ran in to randomly, or I'd run to my coach's or girlfriend's house. Then run 20 more after stopping for a bit. Maybe walk around for a while after that. Finish up with 10-15 min's of jogging. But I'm all about recovery days being EASY and serving no purpose but allowing you to recover, so that's why I did it. Because it didn't matter.
If you're serious about training then you should be beyond the point to where you stop for something like hydrating or stretching if you're on a long run or any run for that matter. That stuff can wait until the end. Only time you should stop on a run that has a purpose other than recovery is for the unexpected bathroom break. And even those should be kept to a minimum.
Doesn't matter how serious you are.
If you're doing 10 miles easy on a hot day and you stop for to get a drink of water for 20-30 seconds, I doubt your body will reply by refusing to count those miles as additions to the fitness deposit.
Lydiard also espoused that the Marathon WR would not go below 2:08 on a loop course, because "the lactic acid would have nowhere to go."
Some of his theories seemed way out there even to me when I read them when I was 15 and not too knowledgeable.
Hmm, I know Brian Sell and the other Hansons will often run to a central meeting point, hang out and stretch waiting for everyone to assemble, then do their workout, hang out and chat for a few minutes after, then run home.
If they'd eliminate the stops, no doubt Sell would have medaled in Helsinki.
This reminds me of some guys in college, when we'd run downtown and come to a red light, they'd keep jogging in place until the light changed. Used to bug the s**t out of me.
Does stopping during intervals ruin the workout?
What if you didn't stop in your intervals and instead of running 5 X 1K, you just ran a 5K at that pace, would that be a better workout?
Also, on long runs, which for me is 11-12 miles on a very hilly course, so it take awhile, i get very dehydrated in the last couple of miles. many people say you should pick it up towards the end of you long run, which i do, but it seems like stopping for water would ruin the purpose of this.
First of all, DON'T STOP. I do believe in the 15 second rule. Learn to drink without stopping. Hydration is important, just set some bottles out before the run. If you 10 miles and take a 2 minute pit stop and then run another 10 miles. That is 2 X 10 miles. It is not a 20 miler.
You honestly believe this? I know when I get finished running ten miles, two minutes later I feel like I never even ran at all. My muscles are fully oxygenated, and my pulse is back to normal. It's the funniest thing guys.
Thinning the field wrote:
First of all, DON'T STOP. I do believe in the 15 second rule. Learn to drink without stopping. Hydration is important, just set some bottles out before the run. If you 10 miles and take a 2 minute pit stop and then run another 10 miles. That is 2 X 10 miles. It is not a 20 miler.
No I do not feel fully recovered, but I do feel different than had I never stopped. If I feel different my body is obviously not getting the EXACT same result.
screw that man.. we stop 5-6 times during a run because of lights and stuff.. we have some pretty dam good runners on the team.. it doesn't effect shit
Hypothetically, you run 20 miles in 2:20 minutes, and I run 20 miles in 2:22 minutes because I stopped for two minutes.You truly think we achieved completely different results?Th
Thinning the field wrote:
No I do not feel fully recovered, but I do feel different than had I never stopped. If I feel different my body is obviously not getting the EXACT same result.
That really is crazy
you wrote:
Hypothetically, you run 20 miles in 2:20 minutes, and I run 20 miles in 2:22 minutes because I stopped for two minutes.
You truly think we achieved completely different results?
Th
Thinning the field wrote:No I do not feel fully recovered, but I do feel different than had I never stopped. If I feel different my body is obviously not getting the EXACT same result.