WTF is the point of insoles being separate from the rest of the damn shoe?

I agree with you!

https://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Kipchoge_Eluid-Berlin15.jpg

You're better off buying more expensive, long-lasting orthotic insoles anyways. I recently learned from my podiatrist that shoe design is all a gimmick and has no real support on the inside because of how thin the insole is. Orthotics, on the other hand, incorporate a piece of arch-supporting plastic that deters deterioration of the insole AND will likely save you alot of foot problems down the line. In other words, it's worth the 40 bucks because you can interchange them between different shoes easily and will last much longer than a floppy, cheap insole.

Different strokes for different folks. I don't use shoes that have much stability support or arch support, so I wouldn't want an insole that pushes up on my arches. If I could get any insole replacement possible, I would want it to be exactly the same as the original one in the shoe except it wouldn't slip, move, or fold up. The very thin insole that was in there was great for 150 miles until it moved and folded up today in the wet conditions.

The trouble is that I can only find the expensive, heavy, thick, jelly-like type of insoles that you are talking about. Do you have any recommendations on how to find a light, thin insole replacement?

You should try and use an insole from a old shoe. It should fit ok, even if you have to cut a piece or two off.

I mean...I guess you could buy something like this and then just glue it to the shoe. Insoles like this are destined to slip and crumple up at some point anyways.

https://www.theinsolestore.com/pedag-soft-insoles-104/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjer4BRCZARIsABK4QeWURcABod6u4imtjJcFcIyIdVnCysVPu4K4fJ4wW-6ihW1-h_Ol9VAaAsQ5EALw_wcB

New balance insoles are always bad, especially when wet.

I totally agree with you, always have this problem in Saucony Triumph 5's. Maybe they have to make them removable so people can take them out and put in custom inserts?

use a few pieces of double-sided adhesive tape. works really well and there won't be any lumps. i've had the problem you described a couple of times and this fixed it permanently.

in college we all had custom insoles for our cleats to reduce fracture chances and increase support. I have a stupid high arch and so I usually change stock insoles out for something a little more specialized.

Stay away from "comfort" or gel insoles as those suck for running. I usually go with SOLE, the insole isn't cheap but it last longer than the shoe does. When I retire a set of shoes, I take the insole out and move it to the next pair.

I have a set of Superfeet carbon lights in my hyperion tempos at the moment and love them. Again, not cheap but will outlast the shoe.

eritoieraer wrote:

use a few pieces of double-sided adhesive tape. works really well and there won't be any lumps. i've had the problem you described a couple of times and this fixed it permanently.

Brilliant. I'm going to give this a try. I may also try using the insoles from an old pair of shoes as another poster suggested.

Swim Bike Run wrote:

in college we all had custom insoles for our cleats to reduce fracture chances and increase support. I have a stupid high arch and so I usually change stock insoles out for something a little more specialized.

Stay away from "comfort" or gel insoles as those suck for running. I usually go with SOLE, the insole isn't cheap but it last longer than the shoe does. When I retire a set of shoes, I take the insole out and move it to the next pair.

I have a set of Superfeet carbon lights in my hyperion tempos at the moment and love them. Again, not cheap but will outlast the shoe.

I'm the same. I have abnormally high arches and only recently got orthotic inserts for them. The problem is, the insole is so thick that whenever I'm running my heel feels like its going to come out of the shoe. Do thin orthotic inserts offer as much support as thick ones? If so, then why is there a differentiation? I might consider getting thinner ones.

I have been using Dr Scholl's Running Insoles for years and love them. They are not expensive and I put them in every pair of shoes that I own including my dress shoes. It's amazing how my feet feel the same in all my shoes.

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Scholls-RUNNING-Insoles-Injuries/dp/B01M5H4JG5/ref=asc_df_B01M5H4JG5/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309807159760&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14894934197187645091&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021716&hvtargid=pla-526379908299&psc=1

One reason that insoles are removable is that some people remove them sometimes because they want less cushioning, sometimes because they replace them with another kind of insole. If you get yourself a pair of Spenco insoles you won't have the problem you describe. They have a different kind of bottom side from standard insoles and don't move around, at least from my experience. Or you could go with the double sided tape as someone else mentioned.

Nutsack McGee wrote:

eritoieraer wrote:

use a few pieces of double-sided adhesive tape. works really well and there won't be any lumps. i've had the problem you described a couple of times and this fixed it permanently.

Brilliant. I'm going to give this a try. I may also try using the insoles from an old pair of shoes as another poster suggested.

I used some instant adhesive (cyanoacrylate aka 'super glue') to keep the insoles in my NB Beacon shoes from shifting on a recommendation from another thread. Worked perfectly from mile ~50 (or whenever the issue started) until mile ~400 when I retired them. It doesn't take much to hold them in place.

For what it's worth, I have not had this issue in any other NB shoe and I have used many.

Had the same deal with my NB Beacon V1s. Gorilla glued them down and it worked pretty much perfectly the whole life of the shoe. It may start to wear away at some point but that's just a matter of reapplying.

I'm honestly not sure. But I like that taking them out after a run helps dry the shoe faster.

And since I've been running for over 40 years and have never had a problem with insole shifting, it seems that most companies on most shoes EASILY pull off non-shifting removable insoles.

And EVEN when they don't (in a shoe I've worn in multiples and don't have a problem with!), you can STILL get a WR......

Your insoles never slide because you never run fast.

speedy mcspeedy wrote:

Your insoles never slide because you never run fast.

That's what I didn't understand today. They didn't slip throughout my whole workout even though I was definitely fully wet by the time I was halfway through. It was only during my cool down while I was slowly jogging back home that they started to slip.