Are any Boulder runners NOT in a YouTube-d training group?

Can you provide links to what you are talking about?

Yes. Just about everybody else you don't see on YouTube.

Someone else can provide links, but I saw your former athlete Sage Canaday with Spencer Brown. Then Brown with Sage. Didn't watch, but now there's a Brown with Tinman Elite.

Do a search in youtube for "ultra running" and you'll find many, many hours of the same thing, but for ultra running. There are a number of 'stars', they have deals with runningwarehouse and other sites to get gear for review, they film training runs and trails races, etc., etc. I've found them to be outstanding watching for COVID running days stuck on the treadmill in the basement.

How these folks make money from this I dunno, but I'm sure at least a handful of them make some good income from it.

Everyone is hoping to make millions from YouTube. It's just a trend. There's nothing else to do and going around filming your whole life is very easy.

Youtube viewer wrote:

Someone else can provide links, but I saw your former athlete Sage Canaday with Spencer Brown. Then Brown with Sage. Didn't watch, but now there's a Brown with Tinman Elite.

Also Cooper Teare was with Brown as well as Charlie Lawrence.

Gotta admit, the running content on The Athlete Special channel has stepped it's game up and if you are a true running fan, it's pretty damn good.

Yes, Sage. Then Brown. Then Sage with Brown. Then Tinmen. Then Tinmen run into Brown, and Brown runs into Tinmen. Then CU women. Then Zach Levet. Then he runs into someone, and they run into him.

Then some five-old-old video where Anton runs to the top of Longs Peak and back in 45 minutes or something.

And that was just what I noticed since the weekend.

Thought it was funny when Brown showed up and there were like two other people/teams there filming for youtube. I'm an old guy and don't begrudge these kids, but it must be something to show up as Joe Average Jogger for your weekly track session and see like 4 drones flying in the air and three gaggles of people with expensive cameras, etc.

Is this another anti-promotional thread?

chiedf wiggame wrote:

Thought it was funny when Brown showed up and there were like two other people/teams there filming for youtube. I'm an old guy and don't begrudge these kids, but it must be something to show up as Joe Average Jogger for your weekly track session and see like 4 drones flying in the air and three gaggles of people with expensive cameras, etc.

Exactly. I was there, summers, in the 80s, and I'd sometimes run into Cram or Barrios on the CU track, NOBODY anywhere else. And even then, it was only two or three people. The scene at Centennial is just nuts, and "Mags" might as well be the Boulder Creek Path at this point.

Nonsense! wrote:

Also Cooper Teare was with Brown as well as Charlie Lawrence.

Gotta admit, the running content on The Athlete Special channel has stepped it's game up and if you are a true running fan, it's pretty damn good.

The Brown with Sage video was the first that I watched of Brown's channel. He didn't make much of an impression, but he didn't say much in it. Seemed kind of meh. Maybe I'll try another, but if that was representative, I probably won't watch many more.

A lot of Sage's videos are lessons that are targeted at inexperienced runners, so I'm not the target audience. But I do click on some of his titles.

Of the CO runners, I've been watching Seth James Demoor the most recently. He has good positive energy.

This is Boulder. You show up to trailheads and tracks and expect to see Olympic athletes, models, Instagram influencers and the like doing photo shoots as well as hobby vloggers taking selfies etc. all over the place every day.

Lots of "trust fund" athletes here as well.

I've been on the youtube making vids for over 12 years now (Rojo should know I started in college at Cornell!). The dynamic has certainly changed over the last decade. I think its cool to see. Viewership has changed, video quality and the nature of the "VLOG" and other aspects of social media (Instagram to Tik-Tok) has changed the game. I'm like the "old guy" now with my iPhone 7 and rough (somewhat boring) edits. But I do mostly solo stuff, Training Talks in my living room, and #AnySurfaceAnyDistance . A lot different from the team dynamic where more characters are involved and the NCAA cross country /track vibe (which I think is probably more interesting for most). Long runs on Mags, group track workouts etc.

As someone who does all the editing (admitingly rather poorly) and most of my "solo shooting" on also on a Cannon T5i (Rebel SLR) and a GoPro Hero 6 it's made me want to step up my game though.

These guys are showing up with Cannon 5Ds and Sony A7s shooting with nice lenses and then getting good at thumbnail imagery as well as editing and other graphics on multi-weekly upload basis. Some guys are uploading videos every single day. That takes a pretty serious commitment and quite a bit of time! We're not all Casey Neistats here.

I respect guys like Spencer (athlete special) trying to make it as a post-collegiate and I generally like his content. Doing a "collab" with him was a no brainer and a lot of fun. I know how hard it is for a track/road guy to "make it"...especially nowadays with the competitive level even higher and people trying to get sponsors. It's tough out there (granted when I was just out of college I was working 20-30 hours a week in a shoe store still).

This summer of covid-19 may go down as the best summer in history for college and post-college runners to train together in training meccas such as Boulder. There is no question in my mind that the vast majority of these "Running YouTubers" are collecting unemployment and using the funds to pay for apartment rentals, running gear, food, and video cameras/drones. My own son is collecting $800 per week ($200 from our state plus $600 from the federal government) while he is taking online summer courses for his college.

Think about it. The Athlete Special (Spencer Brown) is sharing an apartment in Boulder with about 6 friends and none of them are working. 7 X $800 = $5,600 per week or $22,400 per month. They must be having a ball living the high life and training their asses off. All courtesy of our tax dollars. I admit this is conjecture, but how else could they be doing this?

In addition to The Athlete Special, here are some more collegiate based groups training in Boulder: Ben Crawford, Zach Levet, several of the UOregon men's and women's xc teams, Claudia Lane is staying with some of the CU and UO runners.

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Any old farts 35+ like me interested in going out there to make some parody videos? Could have some beautiful slo mo shots of one of us throwing down a 7’20 mile, beer gut and all.

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I watched this entire thing (I don't know why) it was so painful. Sad ro think we started all this looking inside a college program with "running with the Buffaloes " and it has depended down to this.

Casual Impartial Observer wrote:

Yes. Just about everybody else you don't see on YouTube.

Sorry buddy, gonna need a source for this.