Imagine no workouts. Just 20 miles on Sunday, and other days with 10 easy and 5 easy.
How much can I improve my times?
Imagine no workouts. Just 20 miles on Sunday, and other days with 10 easy and 5 easy.
How much can I improve my times?
You’ll run faster, but not as fast as you would with actual training.
I reckon your legs will fall off.
Possible injury. Perpetual soreness. Stiffness. Run for fitness. No more than 30 miles per week at moderate pace.
You don't say how much you are running now but you will improve some, probably get injured, and spend a lot of time running. Run more but train smarter than that plan.
It was an hypothetical scenario. You can read it like "how much can a runner improve by just doing monster mileage with no speed?"
Why do people think that running 100 mpw+ easy is what a high mileage training plan is supposed to be? The only thing you will get better at by running 100+ mpw easy is running 100 mpw easy. If you go from 30-40 mpw to 100+, you will get hurt no matter how easy you run. It takes about 3 months to progress safely into 100 mpw.
If you actually follow a Lydiard plan or something like it, you would probably get down to 36-37 min after about 6 months. But just jogging it out all the time will only make you better at 50 milers and what not.
Precious Roy wrote:
If you go from 30-40 mpw to 100+, you will get hurt no matter how easy you run. It takes about 3 months to progress safely into 100 mpw.
It probably takes more like 3 years to safely progress to 100 mpw from 30-40 mpw...
You'll go through a lot of running shoes
You'll take A LOT of showers.
You'll know ever dip, twist, turn and rock and pebble on your favorite running route.
You'll take a ton of naps.
You won't be much fun on the weekends.
You will go through a lot of ibuprofen.
Depending on your age, you will greatly increase your change of injury.
Your family will hate you.
but....
You could improve a lot, but what is "a lot" Do you realistically think you could ever be a sub34 10k runner? That'd be a full 6 min improvement, but still not considered any great shakes unless you're a Master's runner.
When you're 40' tall 110 mph is not that much. You have to divide that mileage by 7 to compare to non-giants.
What was your mileage when running 40’ for 10k?
The most likely scenario is you’d hit the first 3 days of your new training, then take an easy day telling yourself you’ll make up for it the next day. Then you won’t. You’ll hit mid 90s that week, feel proud but drained, and you’ll slip off completely by week 2, convinced that you’re not meant to do high mileage.
Precious Roy wrote:
If you actually follow a Lydiard plan or something like it, you would probably get down to 36-37 min after about 6 months.
Rolls eyes...just follow a Lydiard plan, and knock 10% off your 10k within 6 months...rolls eyes.
youll get injured
Depending on how much you have run previously in your life and how much you have run recently. You might not get very much out of running 100 miles a week easy.
If you "just run" that volume, you'll easily be 90 percent of what you could be with a structured training routine. It may take a year or more to get there, though.
Endurance training isn't rocket science.
If you "just run" that volume, and race on a fairly regular basis, you can push that 90 number to more like 95 percent. If you enjoy racing, that's not a bad way to go.
Cancelino wrote:
Imagine no workouts. Just 20 miles on Sunday, and other days with 10 easy and 5 easy.
How much can I improve my times?
Imagine no workouts. It's easy if you try.
50 mpw will be enough to determine how much talent you have and to decide how seriously you want to be about runn8ng.
You will get very good at running your easy pace. Should just hop into and ultra while you’re at it.
I bet like 36:30 ish
If someone just slow runs 100 mile a week, 13:30 5000m. Maybe slightly faster. Zatopek is the first man known to combine 100 miles a week with consistent speed & pace workouts.
EZ10Miler wrote:
You'll go through a lot of running shoes
You'll take A LOT of showers.
You'll know ever dip, twist, turn and rock and pebble on your favorite running route.
You'll take a ton of naps.
You won't be much fun on the weekends.
You will go through a lot of ibuprofen.
Depending on your age, you will greatly increase your change of injury.
Your family will hate you.
but....
You could improve a lot, but what is "a lot" Do you realistically think you could ever be a sub34 10k runner? That'd be a full 6 min improvement, but still not considered any great shakes unless you're a Master's runner.
+1
100+ mpw of easy runs + 4-5 strides @mile pace after every run,
you'll drop that 10k of 4-5 minutes after 3-4 months