Knuckleheads Rule CO: Moving to Boulder is an illusion

I was born here, Cletus. What am I supposed to do? Move away?

That Yogi Berra quote is spot on... Colorado definitely ain’t what it used to be. Boulder was still cool about 30 years ago and was still a prime spot for distance runners/endurance athletes. But that was the last time it was really great. Too many Massholes, too much Californication. Too many rich liberals and wannabe athletes. Actually, the wannabe aspect has always been there to an extent, but Boulder just isn’t that attractive anymore. You would know this if you had frequented it back in the mid-80s to early 90s.

CU grad btw.

If it makes you feel any better, Californians are ruining the great states of Arizona and Utah as well. They seem to think they can move to states known for living different lifestyles than the rest of the country and change them.. but somehow it'll be the same? Californians are a virus like no other. Driving through Arizona there's a poster board for a local state representative that says something along the lines of "Don't let Californians turn Arizona into California".

once upon a time wrote:

Too many Massholes, too much Californication. Too many rich liberals and wannabe athletes. Actually, the wannabe aspect has always been there to an extent, but Boulder just isn’t that attractive anymore. You would know this if you had frequented it back in the mid-80s to early 90s.

CU grad btw.

You struck a nerve. Here are the topologies of drivers I notice.

The Texan Super Duty 4x4 - These types rip down the interstate at 90, very aggressive tailgaters. If you are going 10mph over the speed limit they will be right up on your tail.

Californian's - These types have a blitz style of driving in the tunnels and parking lots. They tend to believe if their foot is off the go pedal it doesn't count as speeding. I have seen 45 in king supers and 90 in the tunnels. I have seen them weave the fast lane in traffic cutting everyone off in sight.

Too much LSD in the 90s - These types dont really know what's going on man. They're like 50, their car has damage on it from 12 years ago and they impede traffic, man.

Mexican Fast & the Furious - These types are revving engines, making loud snapping sounds, have loud engines and exhaust black smoke on the road. They are mostly younger and dont give a R.A. about what they do. Some of it is just stupid.

Pioneer Plates - These types have watched their Colorado grow and feel entitled to the road. They almost subclass with the Texan 4x4s as aggressive and drive insanely fast like the Californians. They don't stop at the stop signs and only do when they feel good and ready to stop.

This attitude among natives is not something new. I grew up in CO in the 1950s and 1960s. In the early 1970s "Don't Californicate Colorado" bumper stickers became very common. This was part of a push to reject the Olympics after the IOC had already awarded it to the state in 1970.

In 1972 voters rejected holding the winter Olympics by a wide margin. A young politician by the name of Richard Lamn (who later became governor) made a name for himself leading this effort. If was rejected partly because people didn't want to their taxes to go up and partly because they were afraid that a lot of new development would ruin the state. And this was 50 years ago.

So the point is that people think Colorado was cool 30 years ago. But even in the 1970s and 1980s locals were pining for time in the past when there weren't so many people.

DirtyT wrote:

If it makes you feel any better, Californians are ruining the great states of Arizona and Utah as well. They seem to think they can move to states known for living different lifestyles than the rest of the country and change them.. but somehow it'll be the same? Californians are a virus like no other. Driving through Arizona there's a poster board for a local state representative that says something along the lines of "Don't let Californians turn Arizona into California".

Add Austin, TX to your list of eastern California subsets with destruction of the old school culture, overwhelming traffic, and housing prices through the ceiling.

this whole thing has me wondering is if there are new laces that are the new boulder or austin or whatever city you want or if its just the direction the country is taking all over and soon USA will be one big california

Are all the people like that lame pseudo-intellectual liberal type? Drinking craft brews yo type?

Noise pollution is another subtle issue not just in Boulder or Denver or on I-70 but everywhere along the front range.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/traffic/driving-you-crazy/driving-you-crazy-i-70-road-noise-from-trucks-mostly-has-been-getting-much-worse

https://www.greeleytribune.com/2017/07/27/greeley-police-issue-57-citations-to-drivers-of-noisy-vehicles-in-12-hour-period/

Also, between the crowds and the type of person who migrates here via the the illusory concept we tend to attract a lot of ignorant people who just weren't raised right. They have no clue how loud they are, often shouting in doorways or being excessively loud in public places.

This is reflected in their driving and lacking rule abiding tendencies too.

I lived in Denver for one year.

In that year, I witnessed 4 separate occurrences of pedestrians being hit by cars.

I've lived in many places including much bigger cities and never saw any pedestrian hit. Close calls sure, all the time, but not people literally being run over.

It really freaked me out. I started doing research and learned that Denver and CO had a really. really high incidence of pedestrian auto accidents.

I also have never been around the # of absolutely bonkers crazy people on the streets. And again, I've lived in NYC, Philly, etc. Maybe it was the meth problem but strange nonetheless.

Where is cool now? I've heard that Boulder has been 'uncool' since the 90s.

Crested Butte is where it is at these days. Boulder is low elevation crap.

CB is OVER! The true elites have moved on to Leadville.

Speak of the devil.https://www.outtherecolorado.com/news/cyclist-faces-life-threatening-injuries-after-being-hit-by-truck-in-colorado/article_b3d10468-dfbb-5958-bd04-e0861ff74d37.html Not pedestrian but still not surprising. Can almost wrap the typology around the driver. * Coloradan with forceful Texan style driving * Going way too fast * Not caring about the safety of others * Not keeping enough distance from the side of the road * Probably not even looking As for the biker: * Naive to the dangers of the road * Probably impeding traffic by driving in the road (they are out there in full force this week) * Assumed nothing will happen to them * Trusted drivers to navigate around them Just saw a nutjob in a pickup speed away at a ridiculously high speed up a mountain road while writing this post.

pavement88 wrote:

I lived in Denver for one year.

In that year, I witnessed 4 separate occurrences of pedestrians being hit by cars.

I've lived in many places including much bigger cities and never saw any pedestrian hit. Close calls sure, all the time, but not people literally being run over.

It really freaked me out. I started doing research and learned that Denver and CO had a really. really high incidence of pedestrian auto accidents.

I also have never been around the # of absolutely bonkers crazy people on the streets. And again, I've lived in NYC, Philly, etc. Maybe it was the meth problem but strange nonetheless.

lol you dummies can live wherever you want. i am quite happy here! you do you.

So if you were 27, single, made 120k a year, could work remotely, liked running/climbing/skiing where would you go?

Missoula Montana?

Bend Oregon?

Boise Idaho?

Flagstaff AZ?

Asheville NC?

1. Hawaii

2. Wyoming

3. Alaska

4. Montana

5. Utah

6. Colorado

7. Vermont

8. Delaware

9. South Dakota

10. North Dakota

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/01/gallup-10-happiest-and-healthiest-states-in-america.html

Boulder stopped being Boulder when The Blue Note closed.

Just move to SoCal and get it over with. It's the same everywhere, but the options here are better (weather, too).