Good interview
Good interview
How did all those so-called elites do at the World Champs last year?
He says calf size is not a factor in running economy, according to his research
Although, I am not a big fan of the Tinman group, where their egos sometimes look like they outweigh their performance, I do appreciate Schwartz sharing his athletes training and his philosophy. Many coaches try to keep their training a secret, so I respect Tom's confidence and openness with sharing it.
With that being said, Johnny G would've smoked all of them, besides Hunter, wearing jeans in that mile TT they ran in South Dakota.. I saw some 4:13's-4:18's for the rest of the Tinman crew on Strava.
NewEnglandRunner wrote:
Although, I am not a big fan of the Tinman group, where their egos sometimes look like they outweigh their performance, I do appreciate Schwartz sharing his athletes training and his philosophy. Many coaches try to keep their training a secret, so I respect Tom's confidence and openness with sharing it.
With that being said, Johnny G would've smoked all of them, besides Hunter, wearing jeans in that mile TT they ran in South Dakota.. I saw some 4:13's-4:18's for the rest of the Tinman crew on Strava.
To their defense, most of the others ran in Boulder on high altitude. Tinman said:
"Brain Barraza ran 4:02.7.
Joey Berriatua ran 4:03.3.
For sea level conversion about 5-6 seconds."
So you are looking at two sub 4 miles on sea level. Three if you add Hunter. Not bad at all for the current point in the season.
The 4:13 performance in South Dakota was Reed Fischer, after going out in 2:02. It's their slow-twitch marathon specialist. He can run 26 miles at almost that pace, so while the mile time is nothing impressive for an elite runner, you need to look at his half and (not yet existing) marathon times, which are 61 mins and probably sub 2:10.
Are you in the tinman running stable yet, jamin? I think he could get you to sub-14:00 easily.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
The 4:13 performance in South Dakota was Reed Fischer, after going out in 2:02. It's their slow-twitch marathon specialist. He can run 26 miles at almost that pace, so while the mile time is nothing impressive for an elite runner, you need to look at his half and (not yet existing) marathon times, which are 61 mins and probably sub 2:10.
It does exist, and it is 2:24:48.
That is 5:32 pace. I don't know that I would call that almost 4:13 pace, but that's just me.
Think you're forgetting Thies and Gidabuday?
"Probably sub 2:10" - I didn't realize that is how we categorize performances
thx and i am not Jamin if that is what you were referring. I caught that about calf size.
Mostly i just noticed a whole lot of standard running principals but maybe in a bit more detail how and when to apply them.
Would be of particular interest to me to hear how to apply much of these training principals for Master age runners like myself.
I think Coach J.S.'s system is great to use in the 8-10 weeks leading up to a fast 3k-10k fast track race. For those who don't know, it's basically
* Easy-but-not-too-easy runs of 50 mins
* High volume of 400m and 800m intervals at 5k race
* Always take Sunday off
jamin wrote:
I think Coach J.S.'s system is great to use in the 8-10 weeks leading up to a fast 3k-10k fast track race. For those who don't know, it's basically
* Easy-but-not-too-easy runs of 50 mins
* High volume of 400m and 800m intervals at 5k race
* Always take Sunday off
Well.....thanks Jamin King,nice try to explain the basics. :)
But here comes the basics from the magic wizard himself. :)
In middle /longdistance running there are mainly three factors that counts for the results.
1) The maxVO2 -pace, 5 k race pace. And in my system mostly 20 x 400m .
2) The LT-pace (lactate threshold). In my system intervals to a total of 6-10 miles.
3) The so called aerobic power pace ( Long Steady Distance ) that is individual for every runner up to present aerob capacity.
Also we can add a fourth factor that often is forgotten of many coaches and runners. In my system the recovery is individual "automatic"and exactly enough what the runner needs in the intervals . Also there is at least one day off from running in the week for 100 % recovery.
- Your head coach -
kingojamin wrote:
Are you in the tinman running stable yet, jamin? I think he could get you to sub-14:00 easily.
He could be on Tinman TC, it's like an online running frat in that you just have to pay and you're a member with teammates.