fact checker 642572498 wrote:
Maybe at the D3 level where a 25:30 8k is impressive. I need athletes to be able to break 60 in the 400 for 4 laps in a row - and that might not even qualify them for the NCAA championship.
You must either: A) be a troll, B) be a pretty mediocre coach.
Literally right across the street from my house is a D2 college. Their coach took over there maybe 5 years ago from a coach that had great success with the 4/8/15 group running relatively low mileage. The new guy's motto is "mileage makes champions" When he came in, one of my former athletes was running for said college and had gone from a 1:56 HS guy to a 1:50.03 guy in 2 years. When he came in, my guy floundered (granted, he was floundering academically also) and ended up quitting the team.
So, I was dubious.
Since that time, he has taken local kids, without any real impressive credentials and gotten some tremendous results. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any guy on his team that broke 4:20 in high school. Most didn't break 4:30 in high school. A quick scan of the school's roster and results turns up these times (I'm using 2019 also because 2020 didn't really happen)
Guy #1 4:38 HS to 25:34 8k xc
Guy #2 4:35 HS to 14:52 on the track 24:46 8k xc
Guy #3 4:22 HS to 30:03 10k
Guy #4 4:39 HS to 3:59 JC to 14:31 @ local school
Guy #5 4:37 HS to 3:51
Lady#1 2:19 HS to 2:09
Lady #2 2:29 to 2:15
Lady #3 5:28 to 17:26
Lady #4 5:30 to 17:21
Almost all of the kids listed above are locals that I watched throughout their high school careers. Most came from programs that were mediocre at best. The 4:22 guy was not local, but he ran pretty well after only one year here. I'm guessing you'd have been happy to have a guy drop a 30:03 for you in a cross country race.
I'm sure everyone would like guys to come to them already to run 62.5 pace for 4 laps straight before leaving high school. Makes it a lot easier to get to 60 pace. But those guys are few and far between. So, maybe you should look a little harder at those 1:55/4:18/9:25 guys and then you know.....COACH THEM!