Dude, the west isn't going to let Ukraine lose to Russia, you really don't know that?
Russia will never rule Ukraine you haven't figured that out yet and yes that was the plan. Oust Mr Z and set up a government, that will never happen,
Russia is whipped and only a blind man would fail not to see it. Why is Russia still in Ukraine? By the time this is over it will cost Russia around 300,000 dead soldiers and bilions of $ worth of equipment. Look at what they have gained, what have they gained?
How damn dumb was this invasion, did they not know the west would step in?
The neocons will fight to the last Ukrainian Slav
Did you have somebody read the article about rybar be a pro-Kremlin / pro-Wagner mouthpiece to you yet?
Rybar, a pro-Kremlin military analysis channel on Telegram, has been cited by the world's top news agencies, and it's easy to understand why: the channel seems to have access to a wide network of informants whose claims are d...
I'll take that as a "no". And that you still haven't been able to read the article you posted. Maybe if Jimmy Dore had an IQ above 12 he could make a video and explain it to you.
apparently it takes away all water from crimea and hurts Russian positions more than UKR positions. It’s Putin giving up and going razed earth on ukr. Now he will probably blow up nuclear power stations just to teach ukr a lesson.
apparently it takes away all water from crimea and hurts Russian positions more than UKR positions. It’s Putin giving up and going razed earth on ukr. Now he will probably blow up nuclear power stations just to teach ukr a lesson.
ru is a cancer.
No it doesn't. The dam is breached after the channel which feeds the Crimea.
The dam break has caused a mass panic and evacuation of the Ukrainian forces on the islands in the river.
The fact that this is a disaster for Ukrainians and no big deal for Russia strongly suggests Russia blew up the dam.
Russia and Ukraine blamed each other for the destruction of the dam and power plant as thousands face imminent flooding on both sides of the front line.
apparently it takes away all water from crimea and hurts Russian positions more than UKR positions. It’s Putin giving up and going razed earth on ukr. Now he will probably blow up nuclear power stations just to teach ukr a lesson.
A section of a strategically vital Ukrainian dam and hydroelectric powerplant under Russian control has been blown up as both Ukraine and Russia are blaming each other.
apparently it takes away all water from crimea and hurts Russian positions more than UKR positions. It’s Putin giving up and going razed earth on ukr. Now he will probably blow up nuclear power stations just to teach ukr a lesson.
ru is a cancer.
No it doesn't. The dam is breached after the channel which feeds the Crimea.
The dam break has caused a mass panic and evacuation of the Ukrainian forces on the islands in the river.
The fact that this is a disaster for Ukrainians and no big deal for Russia strongly suggests Russia blew up the dam.
we don't know the effect of the dam blow on RU or UKR yet. And of course RU is more than willing to destroy its own positions so that is hardly meaningful in context.
As for the crimea water, the canal's source is reservoir that is now emptying. If the reservoir is emptied then no or less water gets to the canal.
They heavily bombed it for a couple of days after their offensive attempt began. War wise, it is for their benefit. Now the Russian minefields and first line of defense along the left bank of the Dnepr river are under water. The Russians are in emergency evacuating some 20-30K of civilians from Novaya (New) Kakhovka and other small towns overwhelmed with incoming water. If it were they to blow up the dam, they would have evacuated people in advance at no rush and much less cost for them.
As for Crimea, yes, the channel will be filled with much less water from now, and it was also the Ukrainian dream to bring as much headache to the Crimeans as possible. But the situation with water was improved since 2014 even without a channel, so it is not really critical now.
So, Ukraine decided to blow the dam, which if Ukraine won control over would be the only way to reliably cross the Dnipro with heavy equipment and armored vehicles, just to be able to float over one line of minefields in some magical river barge that the Ukrainians do not have. And the Russians who regularly attack civilian housing, stores, hospitals, schools, etc. are suddenly such noble humanitarians that they would have organized the evacuation of downstream settlements and would not possibly put any civilians in harms way.
Or could it be that the Russians wanted to just blow a hole big enough to flood Ukraine forces out of their forward positions on islands on the Dnipro and making river crossing from Kherson impossible with temporary bridges, but f$ckd up and caused the entire dam to collapse. And it is not like the Russians were being shy about this with their propagandists actually calling for the destruction of dams in Ukraine before the deed was done.
Ukraine's forces were launching large attacks in southeast Zaporizhzhia yesterday and were making progress in breaking through Russian defensive lines. If UA forces are successful and make it to the coast of the Sea of Azoz, then Crimea is effectively cut off from Russian forces and the eastern front is cut off from supply lines from Crimea. The only way UA can do this is by crossing the Dnipro from Kherson. Turning the Dnipro into a lake makes it all but impossible for UA to mount an offensive from Kherson.
Ukraine's forces were launching large attacks in southeast Zaporizhzhia yesterday and were making progress in breaking through Russian defensive lines. If UA forces are successful and make it to the coast of the Sea of Azoz, then Crimea is effectively cut off from Russian forces and the eastern front is cut off from supply lines from Crimea. The only way UA can do this is by crossing the Dnipro from Kherson. Turning the Dnipro into a lake makes it all but impossible for UA to mount an offensive from Kherson.
I'd be surprised if a major counter-offensive were launched from Kherson. More likely it would be in the region from (more or less) Zaporizhzia toward Melitopal which is above the dam and where the Ukrainians don't have to cross the river in hostile territory.
Dude, the west isn't going to let Ukraine lose to Russia, you really don't know that?
Russia will never rule Ukraine you haven't figured that out yet and yes that was the plan. Oust Mr Z and set up a government, that will never happen,
Russia is whipped and only a blind man would fail not to see it. Why is Russia still in Ukraine? By the time this is over it will cost Russia around 300,000 dead soldiers and bilions of $ worth of equipment. Look at what they have gained, what have they gained?
How damn dumb was this invasion, did they not know the west would step in?
The neocons will fight to the last Ukrainian Slav
There are no neocons fighting against the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The US is supplying arms to Ukraine, at Ukraine's request (pleas). The arms are being used by Ukrainians to kill and destroy the Russian invaders and their military equipment (e.g., the Moskva ship).
No it doesn't. The dam is breached after the channel which feeds the Crimea.
The dam break has caused a mass panic and evacuation of the Ukrainian forces on the islands in the river.
The fact that this is a disaster for Ukrainians and no big deal for Russia strongly suggests Russia blew up the dam.
we don't know the effect of the dam blow on RU or UKR yet. And of course RU is more than willing to destroy its own positions so that is hardly meaningful in context.
As for the crimea water, the canal's source is reservoir that is now emptying. If the reservoir is emptied then no or less water gets to the canal.
here's an update on the crimea water sitch from the NYT. THe official RU line is that the water is for agriculture not drinking, and reservoirs in crimea are full. At least that's what the Russians are saying...believing Russians is a 50/50 prospect at best. And who knows what a 'small part' means in terms of drinking water.
The destruction of the Kakhovka dam potentially poses problems for a canal supplying water to Crimea that has for years been a point of geopolitical tension between Kyiv and Moscow, Russian officials warned on Tuesday. The canal, the Northern Crimean Canal, runs approximately 250 miles from the reservoir above the dam down to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula that Russia annexed illegally in 2014. For years, it served as Crimea’s main water resource, but shortly after the annexation, Ukraine blocked the flow of water. Russia restored it after invading last year and occupying the territory around the canal. The Kremlin’s spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, said in a briefing on Tuesday that water levels in the reservoir were falling as a result of the dam’s destruction, reducing supply to the canal. Only a small portion of the canal’s water supply is used for drinking water. Most of it is used for agricultural purposes in Crimea. Sergei Aksyonov, the Kremlin-installed leader of Crimea, said on Tuesday that there was a risk of the water in the canal becoming shallow. Writing on the Telegram messaging app, Mr. Aksyonov said that 40 million cubic meters of water remained in the canal and that work was being done to minimize losses. He said reservoirs in Crimea were 80 percent full, adding that there was sufficient drinking water for the peninsula’s residents. “In the coming days, the situation will be clear, as well as the possible risks,” Mr. Aksyonov wrote.
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Ukraine's forces were launching large attacks in southeast Zaporizhzhia yesterday and were making progress in breaking through Russian defensive lines. If UA forces are successful and make it to the coast of the Sea of Azoz, then Crimea is effectively cut off from Russian forces and the eastern front is cut off from supply lines from Crimea. The only way UA can do this is by crossing the Dnipro from Kherson. Turning the Dnipro into a lake makes it all but impossible for UA to mount an offensive from Kherson.
I'd be surprised if a major counter-offensive were launched from Kherson. More likely it would be in the region from (more or less) Zaporizhzia toward Melitopal which is above the dam and where the Ukrainians don't have to cross the river in hostile territory.
I would be surprised if it wasn't launched from Kherson. Ukraine has been working steadily since the liberation of Kherson to get a foothold across the Dnipro.
There are no neocons fighting against the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The US is supplying arms to Ukraine, at Ukraine's request (pleas). The arms are being used by Ukrainians to kill and destroy the Russian invaders and their military equipment (e.g., the Moskva ship).
The motive is profit. None of the Ukrainian cheerleaders or war mongers clamoring for war in Ukraine actually give a damn about Ukrainians.
None of the Ukrainian cheerleaders or war mongers clamoring for war in Ukraine actually give a damn about Ukrainians.
Nobody here is clamoring for war in Ukraine. There was virtually no mention of war in Ukraine before Russia started one. What people are supporting is the American ideal of self-determination as expressed in the U.S. Declaration of Independence.
None of the Ukrainian cheerleaders or war mongers clamoring for war in Ukraine actually give a damn about Ukrainians.
Nobody here is clamoring for war in Ukraine. There was virtually no mention of war in Ukraine before Russia started one. What people are supporting is the American ideal of self-determination as expressed in the U.S. Declaration of Independence.
well sure that's part of it, but a bigger part is saying to tyrants 'no, you cannot use force to invade and take over smaller nations. That is not acceptable so don't try it.'
If we had let RU have UKR that would open the gates for other tyrants to do the same to their neighbors. The whole world would suffer at that point. We are trying to head off that situation, nip it in the bud.
Nobody here is clamoring for war in Ukraine. There was virtually no mention of war in Ukraine before Russia started one. What people are supporting is the American ideal of self-determination as expressed in the U.S. Declaration of Independence.
well sure that's part of it, but a bigger part is saying to tyrants 'no, you cannot use force to invade and take over smaller nations. That is not acceptable so don't try it.'
If we had let RU have UKR that would open the gates for other tyrants to do the same to their neighbors. The whole world would suffer at that point. We are trying to head off that situation, nip it in the bud.
Unless the US is the invader and then it's perfectly acceptable of course...
There are no neocons fighting against the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The US is supplying arms to Ukraine, at Ukraine's request (pleas). The arms are being used by Ukrainians to kill and destroy the Russian invaders and their military equipment (e.g., the Moskva ship).
The motive is profit. None of the Ukrainian cheerleaders or war mongers clamoring for war in Ukraine actually give a damn about Ukrainians.
That statement, like most statements you make without a shred of evidence, is false.
Nobody here is clamoring for war in Ukraine. There was virtually no mention of war in Ukraine before Russia started one. What people are supporting is the American ideal of self-determination as expressed in the U.S. Declaration of Independence.
well sure that's part of it, but a bigger part is saying to tyrants 'no, you cannot use force to invade and take over smaller nations. That is not acceptable so don't try it.'
If we had let RU have UKR that would open the gates for other tyrants to do the same to their neighbors. The whole world would suffer at that point. We are trying to head off that situation, nip it in the bud.
The specific circumstances are different of course, but the principle of self-determination is not.
It's also true that the U.S. has failed in this ideal both domestically and abroad, but self-determination is the fundamental ideal.
