Official LRC Kamala Harris for President Thread

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

agip wrote:

what I don't get is a view held by musk and maybe guys like you, who see 'wokeism' as a greater threat to America than J6.

Just imagine history books 50 years from now. Will they have more text on a few thousand transsexuals....or the time the president of the united states undertook a multi-pronged attempt to overthrow the free and fair results of a presidential election, including an attack on the national legislature timed to stop the voting of the electoral college?

It's just too stupid. There will be chapters and chapters on the coup attempt and J6 but no one will even remember the transexuals or gay wedding cakes or immigrants whatever other complete BS m'aga and the tea party cooked up and called existential threats to America.

I don’t know why you are conflating transsexualism and gay wedding cakes with *existential* threats to Democracy, including, but certainly not limited to,

- Trying to undermine the first amendment and the big tech oligopoly censoring and otherwise arresting free speech.

- A literal border insurrection, undermining the sovereignty of this nation, aided and abetted by the Biden Democratic Party, and for what? What’s the endgame?

- violating people’s civil liberties with regard to Covid “public” health policy and satirizing anyone who stood up for medical autonomy and freedom

- A coup, encouraged by mainstream media, Hollywood bigwigs, and the most powerful people in the Democratic Party to prevent the sitting president with a solemn oath to all Americans (not just Democrats), a president whose dementia they were so successful in hiding from the American public, from running for re-election.

DEI has nothing to do with it, though that is its own kind of cancer that actually breeds the likes of Trump, and you guys just simply can’t see it. The best thing would’ve been to negotiate to get Trump to go away once and for all, rather than making him a sympathetic figure with the constant pursuit of “justice.”

I don’t know what to tell ya. The guy that brought up all the rioting all over America and looting/burning of public/private structures (very much flouting the Covid mandates the rest of us had to adhere to) in comparison to January 6 isn’t as far off as you make him seem. But you denounced him to Hell.

I can’t believe either of these candidates are the best we can do, but the people deserve what the people get because of what the people are fixated on…

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

I don’t know why you are conflating transsexualism and gay wedding cakes with *existential* threats to Democracy, including, but certainly not limited to,

- Trying to undermine the first amendment and the big tech oligopoly censoring and otherwise arresting free speech.

- A literal border insurrection, undermining the sovereignty of this nation, aided and abetted by the Biden Democratic Party, and for what? What’s the endgame?

- violating people’s civil liberties with regard to Covid “public” health policy and satirizing anyone who stood up for medical auto and freedom

- A coup, encouraged by mainstream media, Hollywood bigwigs, and the most powerful people in the Democratic Party to prevent the sitting president with a solemn oath to all Americans (not just Democrats), a president whose dementia they were so successful in hiding from the American public, from running for re-election.

DEI has nothing to do with it, though that is its own kind of cancer that actually breeds the likes of Trump, and you guys just simply can’t see it. The best thing would’ve been to negotiate to get Trump to go away once and for all, rather than making him a sympathetic figure with the constant pursuit of “justice.”

I don’t know what to tell ya. The guy that brought up all the rioting all over America and looting/burning of public/private structures (very much flouting the Covid mandates the rest of us had to adhere to) in comparison to January 6 isn’t as far off as you make him seem. But you denounced him to Hell.

There’s a lot to unpack and counter here, but no one arrested Biden to make him drop out. You wanted privately funded political campaigns in this country and that’s what you got. His financial backers said they were done with him so he had no future as a candidate. That’s not a coup. That’s capitalism.

agip wrote:

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

I don’t know why you are conflating transsexualism and gay wedding cakes with *existential* threats to Democracy, including, but certainly not limited to,

- Trying to undermine the first amendment and the big tech oligopoly censoring and otherwise arresting free speech.

- A literal border insurrection, undermining the sovereignty of this nation, aided and abetted by the Biden Democratic Party, and for what? What’s the endgame?

- violating people’s civil liberties with regard to Covid “public” health policy and satirizing anyone who stood up for medical autonomy and freedom

- A coup, encouraged by mainstream media, Hollywood bigwigs, and the most powerful people in the Democratic Party to prevent the sitting president with a solemn oath to all Americans (not just Democrats), a president whose dementia they were so successful in hiding from the American public, from running for re-election.

DEI has nothing to do with it, though that is its own kind of cancer that actually breeds the likes of Trump, and you guys just simply can’t see it. The best thing would’ve been to negotiate to get Trump to go away once and for all, rather than making him a sympathetic figure with the constant pursuit of “justice.”

I don’t know what to tell ya. The guy that brought up all the rioting all over America and looting/burning of public/private structures (very much flouting the Covid mandates the rest of us had to adhere to) in comparison to January 6 isn’t as far off as you make him seem. But you denounced him to Hell.

I can’t believe either of these candidates are the best we can do, but the people deserve what the people get because of what the people are fixated on…

your examples are nonsense

A coup against Biden? Political parties constantly push out nominees that have untenable campaigns. It happens all the time. It's not a coup, it's how political parties work. You can't be serious.

Throughout american history public health emergencies have curtailed freedom. It's happened a lot. Shots are required to go to school, to be in the military...we've had shutdowns before. It's not a threat to democracy.

a literal border insurrection? I don't even know what that means. too many immigratns? Oh geez America has never ever ever faced a large number of immigrants before. Hah. It's happened a lot. Not a threat to democracy.

Private companies are not subject to 1A. They can do what they want in terms of censorship.

I mean your examples are sophomoric and have no sense of American history or proportion.

We had a literal coup attempt by a sitting president, who later said we should terminate the constitution...and you are worried about some companies that delete posts? Come on man.

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

agip wrote:

your examples are nonsense

A coup against Biden? Political parties constantly push out nominees that have untenable campaigns. It happens all the time. It's not a coup, it's how political parties work. You can't be serious.

Throughout american history public health emergencies have curtailed freedom. It's happened a lot. Shots are required to go to school, to be in the military...we've had shutdowns before. It's not a threat to democracy.

a literal border insurrection? I don't even know what that means. too many immigratns? Oh geez America has never ever ever faced a large number of immigrants before. Hah. It's happened a lot. Not a threat to democracy.

Private companies are not subject to 1A. They can do what they want in terms of censorship.

I mean your examples are sophomoric and have no sense of American history or proportion.

We had a literal coup attempt by a sitting president, who later said we should terminate the constitution...and you are worried about some companies that delete posts? Come on man.

Agip, you’re not dumb. So don’t act like it. You know it’s so much more than how you presented it. The unraveling of the fabric of America and Democracy isn’t just J6. Get over it. You should’ve had your party to “bribe” Trump to get him to go away. I would’ve been fine with it.

agip wrote:

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

Negotiate. Everyone has a price and Trump certainly had his. Perhaps it was freedom and immunity he sought all along.

Again, I didn’t vote for him, and I’m not the enemy you perhaps believe me to be. I just call out hypocrisy when I see it, and I’m trying to explain to you and your party what’s right there in front of your face.

your world view seems to be that the world is a nasty dirty place and everything is pretty much bad at the same levels but in different directions. I can't hang with that. Some things are good, some things are bad. Trumpism is very very bad. A responsible person who tries to hold himself above the fray and say 'they are all bad' is a bad citizen.

Anyway, pardoning trump like ford pardoned Nixon? is that what you are suggesting? Well NY and GA would have to play along. Would that have stopped trump from running? I doubt it. But yeah that was floated as a possiblity. Not a realistic one.

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

your world view seems to be that the world is a nasty dirty place and everything is pretty much bad at the same levels but in different directions. I can't hang with that. Some things are good, some things are bad. Trumpism is very very bad. A responsible person who tries to hold himself above the fray and say 'they are all bad' is a bad citizen.

Anyway, pardoning trump like ford pardoned Nixon? is that what you are suggesting? Well NY and GA would have to play along. Would that have stopped trump from running? I doubt it. But yeah that was floated as a possiblity. Not a realistic one.

Yep, what's in it for We The People pardoning this criminal a$hole? Trump has never admitted any wrongdoing and has showed absolutely no remorse for the damage he has done. Besides, he's been found fkn guilty already by our justice system. Fk off trumpers!

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

agip wrote:

your world view seems to be that the world is a nasty dirty place and everything is pretty much bad at the same levels but in different directions. I can't hang with that. Some things are good, some things are bad. Trumpism is very very bad. A responsible person who tries to hold himself above the fray and say 'they are all bad' is a bad citizen.

Anyway, pardoning trump like ford pardoned Nixon? is that what you are suggesting? Well NY and GA would have to play along. Would that have stopped trump from running? I doubt it. But yeah that was floated as a possiblity. Not a realistic one.

Let me guess. If I write in a candidate or vote Libertarian, I’m throwing my vote away and I’m not a good American citizen. If I can’t bring myself to stomach Harris, I’m one of the “bad guys.” Amirite?

I voted for neither Harris nor Trump in the primary (I’m unaffiliated), not that the people had a choice on Harris. And she certainly wouldn’t have been chosen.