Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Sincerely it would be in Frank's best interests to admit everything and he would be amazed how quickly it would go away. The only reason Kip and MR had so much coverage were the denials and sockpuppets. All I would like to see is the cheating admitted and stopped.

The Craw wrote:

It's 'craw' ... NOT 'CRAW'!

Ha ha! Very good!

For those who don't immediately recall lines from episodes of 50-year-old television shows:

Golgi Body wrote:

I think Kung Pow Chicken is right. No need to go overboard trying to punish Meza in every area of his life. Where does it end?

When FM confesses.

Golgi Body wrote:

Should we figure out who his neighbors are and make sure they too are notified that they live next door to a road-race cheat?

Yes.

Golgi Body wrote:

Should we notify his bank?

Yes.

Golgi Body wrote:

His grandkids?

Yes.

What's the black neck cord for? wrote:

Another odd thing to add to the many accoutrements weighing Frank down and which would impede your normal sub three hour marathon runner on a hot day, i.e. T shirt short sleeve, T shirt long sleeve, cell phone, bib belt, fanny pack, baggy shorts, two watches, he's also a black cord around his neck, what could that be for?

I've been thinking about that, too. There's photos of him with the same kind of cord in other races. In some, he's got the D-ring timing chip on it, so I was thinking he may have an accomplice. Now I'm thinking it might just be a key to a bike lock. But I would expect to see a little more sweat on him if he's riding between timing mats, so maybe not. I'm as fascinated about *how* he does it as everything else.

Avocado's Number wrote:

The Craw wrote:

It's 'craw' ... NOT 'CRAW'!

Ha ha! Very good!

For those who don't immediately recall lines from episodes of 50-year-old television shows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLa83lqBKKU

Thanks for the link. I was confused.

Sam Rosen wrote:

Clearly, some people here with no life of their own want to see his life ruined.

This bit from the marathoninvestigation.com article lightened my empty vacuous life for one brief moment:

"I estimate that there are more photos of Frank off the course than there are of him running."

Sad I know.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I would be ashamed to show up to a race like that. I might dress like that for an easy morning run at 45 degrees. So bad, so bogus and so pitiful.

Without it, he can't attempt to pull off his lies---he has to wear it and "pretend" like he's not running at all.

But...he never runs in it, he jogs to mats and then jogs off after crossing them.

Sam Rosen wrote:

old shoe wrote:

This brings an interesting question - where do we all see this going? Do we want him to just be DQ'd? or his life ruined? Does he need to be on the front page of every newspaper in America?

Touchy subject.

Honestly I'd like to see a public apology. It might help convince some of the other cheaters to stop or try harder.

Clearly, some people here with no life of their own want to see his life ruined.

Truth be told, I have no life to speak of since I'm posting on this thread and reading it a dozen times a day to keep up. He only broke the world record for 70 and over, no big deal people. Oh wait, I guess it is and I'm quite moronic.

jesseriley wrote:

He was mostly going the wrong way.

Jesse STFU!

Your lame thoughts aren't contributing anything to this thread.

Igloi, you are wiser than that wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I would be ashamed to show up to a race like that. I might dress like that for an easy morning run at 45 degrees. So bad, so bogus and so pitiful.

Without it, he can't attempt to pull off his lies---he has to wear it and "pretend" like he's not running at all.

But...he never runs in it, he jogs to mats and then jogs off after crossing them.

Correct. When I first saw the photos, it just did not look legit. The form, the physique, the clothing. I suppose others saw the same.

Hey IQ Guy... wrote:

An IQ is a terrible thing to waste wrote:

Numbnuts, Canadian Running plagiarized a previously published article. FM was never interviewed by them.

Hard to take bozos like you seriously when you can’t get simple facts straight.

Dude, you are the numbnuts. Be sure of your claims next time before resorting to name calling, bozo.

Frank gave an interview to Canadian Running.

You’re right. I’m a f’ing idiot. I just reread the article and they are quoting him. I could have sworn that wasn’t there when I read it a few days ago. I’m very sorry.

What's the black neck cord for? wrote:

rwrwrwrwrwrw wrote:

Is that a cell phone outline under his t-shirt? Might support the accomplice hypothesis... Or maybe just good to have access to a gps map as he navigates downtown LA?

Another odd thing to add to the many accoutrements weighing Frank down and which would impede your normal sub three hour marathon runner on a hot day, i.e. T shirt short sleeve, T shirt long sleeve, cell phone, bib belt, fanny pack, baggy shorts, two watches, he's also a black cord around his neck, what could that be for?

In fact when you look at that hi res photo on marathon investigation, it appears to be a cell but also something else, because that straight edge seems to carry on for about another six inches just above his shorts and he has his blue tee shirt tucked in half away along to hold it in and stop it slipping down, I wonder what it is?

Also, when you look at his photo page, 448776/7 the straight edge is gone and he's hiding whatever he was carrying behind his back in both of them. In 462856, where he's showing off his cheated medal, all the bulges are gone too, they're either secured behind his back or he's handed them off to an accomplice.

The crumpled bib that looks like it's been through the washing machine cracks me up too. So many oddities when it comes to Frank, lol.

STFU Jesse wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

He was mostly going the wrong way.

Jesse STFU!

Your lame thoughts aren't contributing anything to this thread.

I'm shocked, that's not like you Roderick.

You guys need me to get involved?

FML. I’m sorry wrote:

You’re right. I’m a f’ing idiot. I just reread the article and they are quoting him. I could have sworn that wasn’t there when I read it a few days ago. I’m very sorry.

Thanks for manning up and admitting it Frank.

Now, about the cheating...

Jesse, It was not me. BUT, I am guilty of laughing that someone finally pointed that out. You do have an inner troll that occasionally rears its ugly head. Thanks for the laugh!!

Dogfish wrote:

Derek's latest update in now up at MI.

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2019/06/frank-meza-speaks-to-canadian-running-magazine-responds-to-course-cutting-claims.html

In fact when you look at that hi res photo on marathon investigation, it appears to be a cell but also something else, because that straight edge seems to carry on for about another six inches just above his shorts and he has his blue tee shirt tucked in half away along to hold it in and stop it slipping down, I wonder what it is?[/quote]

colostomy bag?

I too noticed the cord around Frank Meza's neck. I also have come up with thoughts on FM's exact means of cheating. Starting way way late seems designed so that he can go unnoticed and than duck off course. Seems from LAM 2019 that FM sneaks back on course, (in front of witnesses shamelessly) as close to the timing mats as he can. Than exits as quick after the mat as he can. He does probably still log in some distance over the course of 9 or 10 of these entries and exits. This is no small effort. That he has gotten away with this, even in spite of having been seen, is amazing. Frank either is nuts or has mucho grande nuts. This whole affair is surreal.

Roderick Powell wrote:

I too noticed the cord around Frank Meza's neck. I also have come up with thoughts on FM's exact means of cheating. Starting way way late seems designed so that he can go unnoticed and than duck off course. Seems from LAM 2019 that FM sneaks back on course, (in front of witnesses shamelessly) as close to the timing mats as he can. Than exits as quick after the mat as he can. He does probably still log in some distance over the course of 9 or 10 of these entries and exits. This is no small effort. That he has gotten away with this, even in spite of having been seen, is amazing. Frank either is nuts or has mucho grande nuts. This whole affair is surreal.

It takes a lot to get on and off the course and get every 5k mat. It takes a special kind of crazy to do that. Every twenty minutes he had to be on the course. He was probably on the move all three hours, no down time. I think he used a car, not bike, to go from mat to mat. I wonder if Kip Litton had a similar MO but was never caught red handed because cameras weren't as omnipresent a few years ago.