It's like TWO grades of "F" in the same response! That's a good trick. Replied with BS, and BS that was completely unrelated to the question. Bravo !!!
“The Heritage Foundation has established a database to track prosecutions for illegal voting since 1979, but a recent search shows only 85 cases of noncitizens voting out of about 2 billion votes cast between 2002 and 2023.”
Illegals don’t vote. It defies logic for people that sincerely look at the issue.
Instead, this lie serves two huge purposes for the right.
1. It solidifies hatred and distrust of immigrants. 2. It will serve as their go to excuse for a cry of rigged elections.
It clearly defies logic. If you were an illegal would you risk exposing yourself through voting and deportation.
I don't know that it defies logic. LOTS of surprising things happen in this world - regarding man, nature, etc. Can I imagine a country where illegals vote in consequential numbers? Yep.
What matters is that there is no PROOF. And my guess is that enough ethical people and organizations have looked at the issue that that lack of proof MEANS something (i.e., the conclusion is pretty accurate).
And actual good Americans would be relieved to learn that there is no proof of significant illegal voting.
But the current GOP is not dominated by good Americans. It's dominated by people who say and do EXACTLY what their horrible leader tells them to say and do.
I'm curious how the LRC MA6A members are going to spin this report. Everything in there came from people within Trump's circle. Under oath. If Trump loses in November, he's totally f*cked.
Even Fox reported that "it appears Trump resorted to crime..."
And the prosecutor just happened to sit on it for three plus years and make it public a month before the election. No political motivation whatsoever.
Trying to scheme to make illegals vote for your guy simply does not scale whatsoever! You would have to go through so many individual hurdles with fraud detection just to get 3 or 4 people illegally registered to vote the way you want. And of course you would need to talk them into risking everything to do so. And they would need to be told to vote they way you want them to. And they would all need to not spill the beans on your scheme.
Pointing out the practical impossibility of large, wild claims of criminal conspiracy never seems to work on people. In the conspiracy-minded person, like a MAG@ for example, the larger and more impossible the conspiracy, and the less evidence of its existence (or even the absence of any evidence), is actually support for the existence of the conspiracy in their heads.
Again, assuming VERY safely that the average American is no more knowledgeable about voting controls than I am (a quite safe assumption), I think that it makes all the sense in the world to believe that casting a fraudulent vote is relatively easy. I've voted lots of times in my life, and did every time I do it feel like - from where I was standing - that they knew for sure who I was, that I was allowed to vote, and that I had only done it once? Absolutely not.
Did that lead me to BELIEVE that fraud was easy? No, but it certainly makes it easy to believe that it MIGHT be.
But a good citizen is HAPPY to learn that, apparently, smart people have made pretty good controls that I know little or nothing about. OR, perhaps, the controls aren't THAT great, but, for whatever reason, there still isn't much fraud. Either way, good news for a good American.
But these people aren't good Americans. Believing very low fraud versus believing Donald J. Trump? They make the truly laughable, bad choice.
It's like TWO grades of "F" in the same response! That's a good trick. Replied with BS, and BS that was completely unrelated to the question. Bravo !!!
Don't like the obvious truth I see.
Does not change reality
Continuing a personal style that you no doubt started no later than nursery school. The TEACHER is dumb, not me! The other students are dumb, not me! The WORLD is dumb, not me !!!
Exactly. If they rig Harris to win--she can't even beat Trump legitimately and neither could Biden, that's why Joe was replaced because the steal can be more believable, this country will be doomed. Illegals and crime will soar, many businesses boarded up due to crime and foreclosure, turmoil amongst the people since the government favors POC and illegals over lifetime citizens, more censorship and propaganda, less freedoms and rights, war mongering, communist ideologies thrust into reality by the institution.
Bad news for you guys with that jobs report. Must have sucked rolling out of bed and seeing that sh!t all over the goddam news.
Notable in the report, we lost another 251,000 full time jobs, while part time workers jumped. As did multiple job holders. pic.twitter.com/xQPCHElxaA
— David A. Morris Banner Legacy Planning Ex 17:15 (@TruNorthAdvice) October 4, 2024
Pointing out the practical impossibility of large, wild claims of criminal conspiracy never seems to work on people. In the conspiracy-minded person, like a MAG@ for example, the larger and more impossible the conspiracy, and the less evidence of its existence (or even the absence of any evidence), is actually support for the existence of the conspiracy in their heads.
Again, assuming VERY safely that the average American is no more knowledgeable about voting controls than I am (a quite safe assumption), I think that it makes all the sense in the world to believe that casting a fraudulent vote is relatively easy. I've voted lots of times in my life, and did every time I do it feel like - from where I was standing - that they knew for sure who I was, that I was allowed to vote, and that I had only done it once? Absolutely not.
Did that lead me to BELIEVE that fraud was easy? No, but it certainly makes it easy to believe that it MIGHT be.
But a good citizen is HAPPY to learn that, apparently, smart people have made pretty good controls that I know little or nothing about. OR, perhaps, the controls aren't THAT great, but, for whatever reason, there still isn't much fraud. Either way, good news for a good American.
But these people aren't good Americans. Believing very low fraud versus believing Donald J. Trump? They make the truly laughable, bad choice.
Oh, and of course, the KIND OF funny part: Fraud in an election affecting Trump? YES. Fraud in that SAME election affecting other Rs who won? Absolutely not!
Ditto: ANY pro-Trump fraud in the 2016 primaries or general, or the 2020 primaries.
Yes Trump wins a legitimate election, probably easily. But the left cheats, incites attempted assassinations with deceitful media propoganda and steals elections via unscrupulous means. They label their opposition as what they are themselves. They are evil communists.
Great news for you two Americans, by all independent measures our economy is doing great. Great to hear good news right?
US economy added a whopping 254,000 jobs last month
1. Most jobs go to foreign-born, not American citizens 2. Many jobs are public sector, meaning taxpayers foot the bill 3. Many jobs are part-time, so not full-time or high wage 4. Jobs reports like these almost always get revised down https://t.co/UM7CAQ81vE
Here is how you can tell that our Trumpers are full of fecal matter when they say “I despise Trump but the only reason that I am voting for him is that Harris is way worse”.
If this were true then they would have chosen DeSantis, Haley in the primary. They had Trump’s policies. But the opposite proved true. Nobody had a snowball’s chance against Trump because as a group they Adore Trump and all of his awfulness, criminality and immorality. In fact, if Trump were running against a person with the exact same “policies” as Trump he would be trounced.
So the next time a Trump excuses his Trump vote in that manner tell them to GTFOH.
I did vote for Haley in the primary (my wife voted for Desantis). Did you vote for Harris in your primary?
Lol. Great question. Perfect question.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
It clearly defies logic. If you were an illegal would you risk exposing yourself through voting and deportation.
On Top of that...
Trying to scheme to make illegals vote for your guy simply does not scale whatsoever! You would have to go through so many individual hurdles with fraud detection just to get 3 or 4 people illegally registered to vote the way you want. And of course you would need to talk them into risking everything to do so. And they would need to be told to vote they way you want them to. And they would all need to not spill the beans on your scheme.
If you ever speak to any election official about the claim of illegals voting in any sort of volume they will give you a half hour Ted Talk about how ridiculous this claim is.
Republicans know this is BS.
BUT they see it, probably accurately, as a way to justify installing policies that will disproportionately disqualify or discourage Democratic voters. In that regard, it doesn't defy logic; it makes perfect sense.
I did vote for Haley in the primary (my wife voted for Desantis). Did you vote for Harris in your primary?
Lol. Great question. Perfect question.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
I did vote for Haley in the primary (my wife voted for Desantis). Did you vote for Harris in your primary?
Lol. Great question. Perfect question.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
Maybe your SUPER smart wife can sit down with you tonight and carefully explain the following words and phrases:
1) "Relative"
2) "Relativity"
3) "Relative threat"
4) "Rationally weighing pros and cons"
If, when she's done, you still don't seem to get it, just come out and ask her: What's more important to focus on in an election in an actual democracy: Whether there are any aspects of Candidate A that you don't like, or the fact that Candidate B is an authoritarian willing to wreck it all?
I did vote for Haley in the primary (my wife voted for Desantis). Did you vote for Harris in your primary?
Lol. Great question. Perfect question.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
I wish a Vance, instead of being an apologist, would just simply say, look, 1/6 happened, I can understand why it was appalling, I don’t condone it or exonerate it, I’m sure Trump would handle it differently if he could go back, and the failure to adequately secure the perimeter falls on both parties, Republicans included.
But, at the same time, a peaceful transfer of power did ultimately happen, and as long as you want to keep bringing up “existential” threat to Democracy, since it’s all you have to talk about, then let’s talk about censorship and the first amendment, let’s talk about the de facto insurrection at the border, replete with criminals, drugs, and weapons, and, above all else, let’s talk about the coup you just pulled on the sitting president whose solemn oath was to the American people who duly elected him, not to his party. Had you gone through proper channels and used the 25th amendment to jettison him because you’ve been hiding just how bad off he is, then, fine, that is acceptable protocol. But what you did was a subversion of Democracy with a moral equivalency to however you’re characterizing 1/6, so it’s incredibly disingenuous to talk about one and not the other.
I wish someone would just call out the media for continually asking the question. It’s not giving 1/6 or the behavior a pass. It’s point out the ridiculous hypocrisy of the Democratic Party and shutting it down once and for all. But, for some reason, a Vance just cannot do it.
It’s the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party that so many of us find appalling, not a blind loyalty to Trump and his bad faith shenanigans, which are also appalling. Period.
This might be the first ticket in a very long time where, if you are not voting libertarian or third party, then perhaps you should vote for the bottom of the ticket. Heck, I don’t like either party, but I think a Vance/Walz kumbaya ticket is preferable to either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris. At least I can respect them.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
Maybe your SUPER smart wife can sit down with you tonight and carefully explain the following words and phrases:
1) "Relative"
2) "Relativity"
3) "Relative threat"
4) "Rationally weighing pros and cons"
If, when she's done, you still don't seem to get it, just come out and ask her: What's more important to focus on in an election in an actual democracy: Whether there are any aspects of Candidate A that you don't like, or the fact that Candidate B is an authoritarian willing to wreck it all?
Hey, genius, see my next post, and then look in the mirror and ask yourself the same question. Or are you ill equipped to understand nuance and introspection?
CNN’s Harry Enten sounded the alarm over one particularly “bad sign” for Kamala Harris’selectoral prospects on Friday, arguing that a victory for he...
I did vote for Haley in the primary (my wife voted for Desantis). Did you vote for Harris in your primary?
Lol. Great question. Perfect question.
By the way, my wife and I did exactly as you in the primary. You don’t have to like Trump at all or exonerate any of his sophomoric BS to really not like Harris and what she represents.
Give you an example of what I’m talking about — My wife came from a very underprivileged background with a very liberal, poor mother and no dad. She put herself through a no name undergrad while living at home and working almost full time. Got herself into a solid, not top 14, but solid law school with absolutely no help via legacy or AA type program, graduated at the top of her class without student loan forgiveness (about $360,000 in today’s dollars), paid off her debt in entirety, passed the bar the first time, and worked her butt off her entire career (50-60 hours each and every week) without exchanging sexual favors for career promotions.
So, on that basis alone, you can see why she wouldn’t respect a Harris, especially a Harris if we are talking about women’s rights in a patriarchal world. She thinks Harris is a very poor role model for women. None of us are in a position to judge her opinion or tell her she’s wrong. She uniquely has that opinion because she’s earned the right to it.
Now, is that an endorsement of Trump? Absolutely not. Don’t conflate the two things.
And hell, let's go ahead a make a direct comparison. Let's assume that your implication that Harris is a bona fide wh*** is fair. I'm not endorsing that argument, but we'll stipulate it.
How does that compare to the kid who got a few hundred million from daddy, and instead of doing any of the following:
1) Have a nice, honest career of his own.
2) Sit home living off the interest playing video games and jacking it.
3) Live off the interest and volunteer at the soup kitchen and animal shelter a lot....
INSTEAD decided to spend his life lying and cheating and being a horrible human being.
Really, does your super smart wife really think that Trump is Harris' ethical superior?
Maybe your SUPER smart wife can sit down with you tonight and carefully explain the following words and phrases:
1) "Relative"
2) "Relativity"
3) "Relative threat"
4) "Rationally weighing pros and cons"
If, when she's done, you still don't seem to get it, just come out and ask her: What's more important to focus on in an election in an actual democracy: Whether there are any aspects of Candidate A that you don't like, or the fact that Candidate B is an authoritarian willing to wreck it all?
Hey, genius, see my next post, and then look in the mirror and ask yourself the same question. Or are you ill equipped to understand nuance and introspection?
Oh, I need to sit around and wait for your next dissertation to destroy your argument? No, I don't, and I didn't.
Translation: You and your wife should EASILY decide to vote against Trump.
When you don't, you've failed both civically, ethically, and morally.
Also, as long as we are talking about “relativism,” were you ok with Biden flying in Zelensky with US taxpayer money on DOD planes to stop in PA and beg for more money from the US while ALSO denouncing both Vance and Walz in perhaps the most important swing state of all? Because I’m not. I think it almost rises to the level of an impeachable offense. But, the ends justify the means, right?
Meanwhile, FEMA is essentially begging for more money now too to help w Helene because of Ukraine/Israel/illegal immigration funding? You have to be phucking kidding me. Is this the Babylon Bee?
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