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More conspiracy theories from the right on the Clintons. Just can’t leave them alone.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5703636376001/?#sp=show-clips

CLINTONS! wrote:

More conspiracy theories from the right on the Clintons. Just can’t leave them alone.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5703636376001/?#sp=show-clips

So we shouldn't investigate conspiracy theories? Trump will be glad to heat that.

I've tweeted it before and I will say it again, once a beater always a beater (unless you are a white conservative).

DiscoGary wrote:

CLINTONS! wrote:

More conspiracy theories from the right on the Clintons. Just can’t leave them alone.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5703636376001/?#sp=show-clips

So we shouldn't investigate conspiracy theories? Trump will be glad to heat that.

With Trump there is actually PROOF, not just conspiracy theories.

Proof wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

So we shouldn't investigate conspiracy theories? Trump will be glad to heat that.

With Trump there is actually PROOF, not just conspiracy theories.

HA! If there were ANY proof, then we would know it and Trump would have already been impeached. The Russian Collusion Delusion is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

DiscoGary wrote:

HA! If there were ANY proof, then we would know it and Trump would have already been impeached. The Russian Collusion Delusion is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

Donald Trump Jr. - "If it's what you say it is, I love it, especially later in the summer."

THAT is more than attempted collusion. Donald Trump Jr. there tells the Russians WHEN it would be best to spill dirt on Hillary. So, whether Mueller or anyone else decides that could stick or not is a separate question, but by that comment alone, we have collusion. It is surely not the only thing Mueller has either. In any event, this is NOT just a theory.

You are an apologist for a criminal. You really should stop it.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

HA! If there were ANY proof, then we would know it and Trump would have already been impeached. The Russian Collusion Delusion is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

Donald Trump Jr. - "If it's what you say it is, I love it, especially later in the summer."

THAT is more than attempted collusion. Donald Trump Jr. there tells the Russians WHEN it would be best to spill dirt on Hillary. So, whether Mueller or anyone else decides that could stick or not is a separate question, but by that comment alone, we have collusion. It is surely not the only thing Mueller has either. In any event, this is NOT just a theory.

You are an apologist for a criminal. You really should stop it.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Criminal? What crime?

DiscoGary wrote:

Criminal? What crime?

Well, by golly, I have to agree. "Collusion" by itself is not defined as a crime. People need to remember that.

Similarly, I've had a problem when people say "lock her/him/whomever up" and don't specify a crime, except that they kinda don't like the individual in question (or s/he persists in being a brown person, etc.).

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Donald Trump Jr. - "If it's what you say it is, I love it, especially later in the summer."

THAT is more than attempted collusion. Donald Trump Jr. there tells the Russians WHEN it would be best to spill dirt on Hillary. So, whether Mueller or anyone else decides that could stick or not is a separate question, but by that comment alone, we have collusion. It is surely not the only thing Mueller has either. In any event, this is NOT just a theory.

You are an apologist for a criminal. You really should stop it.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Criminal? What crime?

Dude, you are in such denial it isn't even funny. He's a con man and a fraud. Trump University was fraudulent for which he had to pay $25 million. His Trump Foundation is fraudulent to the point it is no longer allowed to operate as a charity and will be disbanded after investigations of it are complete. You seriously can not think that Trump is guilty of the things he is being accused of...

This will all come out.

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Perjury (if he ever talks to Mueller)

Conspiracy (likely he did this, but the least likely of the four to stick)

Sexual abuse -- this is likely also not to stick, but it is crazy to think that all of the 19 women accusing him of this are lying, especially since he has already admitted to this type of behavior and has said things that are demeaning to women in interviews.

Dude is a criminal.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

kibitzer wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Criminal? What crime?

Well, by golly, I have to agree. "Collusion" by itself is not defined as a crime. People need to remember that.

Similarly, I've had a problem when people say "lock her/him/whomever up" and don't specify a crime, except that they kinda don't like the individual in question (or s/he persists in being a brown person, etc.).

Conspiracy will be the charge if it comes to that.

Also, Obstruction of Justice, Money Laundering, and Perjury if he ever talks.

Lot of evidence you have there.

Interesting read:

Alan Dershowitz on the Nunes memo: Republican 'truth' and Democratic 'truth'

BY ALAN DERSHOWITZ, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 02/02/18 05:35 PM EST

Alan Dershowitz on the Nunes memo: Republican 'truth' and Democratic 'truth'

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The Republicans have now released the memo containing their version of what is in the controversial FSIA application. Not surprisingly, the Democrats have a different version. It should be easy to decide whose “truth” is more credible: Let the American public see the application itself — instead of second-hand, partisan accounts — and let us decide for ourselves.

The problem with that obvious solution is that the application is currently classified. But classification should never be used – as it often is – for political benefit or to protect agencies or individuals from just criticism. Let a nonpartisan expert decide what must be redacted for genuine security concerns, and let the remainder of the application be released.

We, the American people, have the right to know whether the application deliberately failed to disclose to the FISA court that the so-called “Steele dossier” was commissioned by political operatives seeking dirt on a political opponent. We are entitled to know how much weight, if any, was given to the dossier in the application.

The Republican memo, standing alone, raises questions about the process by which the warrants were obtained from the FISA court. The Democratic memo, if it is forthcoming, may purport to answer those questions. But it will never be able to answer them definitively without an objective assessment of the actual FISA application itself.

This episode strengthens the view I have long espoused that the entire enterprise of appointing a special counsel was misguided. Instead, Congress should have created a nonpartisan commission of objective experts to investigate all claims made by either party about any unfairness surrounding the 2016 presidential election. Nor are congressional committees an adequate substitute for a nonpartisan commission. Congressional committees by their nature are partisan, as evidenced by the dueling accounts of the FISA application.

Many Americans, though certainly not all, have also lost faith in the investigation being conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller himself continues to be held in high regard by most Americans, but many of his underlings are widely regarded as partisan. Mueller did the right thing by reassigning FBI agent Peter Strzok, after his communications with his girlfriend, an FBI lawyer, were revealed. But Strzok should have recused himself from the Clinton investigation based on his own knowledge of his bias against Trump. He should be fired, not merely reassigned, for not doing so and compromising the objectivity of Mueller’s investigation. When a president or a presidential candidate is being investigated, everyone involved in the investigation must be “Caesar’s wife” — above reproach. Several of Mueller’s appointees do not pass that test.

The Republican memo just released is not the last word on the issue. It is the opening salvo by Republicans. The Democrats are responding. Both sides have partisan agendas.

Now it is time for the American people to have their interests considered. As Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis once put it, “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.” The corollary is that over-classification keeps the infection spreading.

Partisanship has its role in politics, but there is no such thing as Republican or Democratic truth. Each side has the right to its opinion regarding the significance of the FISA application, but neither side has a right to its own facts. So the next step is for the public to see the application, properly redacted to protect national security, so that we can judge for ourselves.

Let me guess... you are 100% certain that he has committed a crime, right? Or if he hasn't, he will! Can we get a Flagpolean guarantee on that?

DiscoGary wrote:

Criminal? What crime?

You keep asking "What crime?".

We keep listing the crimes.

You never deny that the godless Trump committed those crimes.

I think Disco music causes willful blindness.

Another one:

Dershowitz: I Worry Mueller Will Go After Trump for Obstruction, Creating 'Constitutional Crisis'

Attorney Alan Dershowitz said Wednesday he's concerned that Special Counsel Robert Mueller will choose to go after President Trump on a charge of obstruction of justice.

"A great worry is that because [Mueller] doesn't have anything really substantial, he may go after obstruction of justice, which would create a constitutional crisis," he said.

Dershowitz, a Harvard Law professor emeritus and lifelong Democrat, responded on "America's Newsroom" to a new report of Mueller interviewing Trump cabinet members, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Mueller is also reportedly moving closer to interviewing Trump on the departure of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and the firing of FBI Director James Comey.

"Firing Comey, telling Comey not to investigate Flynn, those are all within the president's constitutional authority. The other place it may be going is toward collusion, but collusion is not a crime," Dershowitz said, adding he has not yet seen evidence of "crimes being committed near the Oval Office."

He said he's concerned that Mueller will end his probe with a "whimper," going after "low-hanging fruit" on matters "not directly related to the thrust of the investigation."

Dershowitz said Trump has no choice but to talk to Mueller, since the former FBI director could issue him a subpoena if he refuses. He also said he sees no reason for Mueller to be removed because "he is not a partisan."

But Dershowitz acknowledged that allegations of abuses within the FBI must be examined.

"Every civil libertarian, whether a liberal or conservative, should be concerned about abuses from within the FBI," he said.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Criminal? What crime?

You keep asking "What crime?".

We keep listing the crimes.

You never deny that the godless Trump committed those crimes.

I think Disco music causes willful blindness.

Alan Dershowitz on defending Trump: 'My liberal friends don't invite me to dinner anymore'

by Caitlin Yilek | Dec 27, 2017, 10:09 AM

Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz says he’s feeling the heat from family and friends over his defense of President Trump amid special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

“It’s caused me to lose seven pounds,” Dershowitz told Politico. “My liberal friends don’t invite me to dinner anymore.”

Dershowitz often appears on Fox News to argue against Mueller bringing an obstruction of justice charge against Trump, saying it would send the country into a constitutional crisis. He has also defended Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey.

“My really, really close friends say, ‘You’re 100 percent right in your analysis, but can’t you just shut the f—k up and not talk at all,’” he said. “They tell me, ‘This is a time for selective silence.’ My nephew thinks I’m helping keep in office one of the greatest dangers in American history. I tell him I’m just standing up for principle. He tells me that I don’t have to stand up so loud.”

Dershowitz added that his family is no longer proud to be associated with him.

“I was a source of pride to my kids, my grandkids,” he said. “Now it’s ‘Oy, he’s related to Alan Dershowitz.’ That hurts me a little bit.”

Yet Dershowitz said he’s “happy with the role I’m playing.”

“I think I’ve changed the debate on the subject of obstruction of justice,” he said.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Criminal? What crime?

You keep asking "What crime?".

We keep listing the crimes.

You never deny that the godless Trump committed those crimes.

I think Disco music causes willful blindness.

You keep listing accusations of crimes without solid evidence. Hoping that Trump is guilty of crimes is not the same as proving that Trump is guilty.

That's one. One Democrat/liberal in a position of authority willing to challenge this political witch hunt against Trump and stand on principles to say what needs to be said, and he's paying the price. Deviation from liberal dogma is punished by excommunication from Party, friends, and family.

I've had my antenna up looking for these, and Alan has been the only one.

In the entire country, only one Democrat standing on principles. That's how bad it is. The monster has eaten almost the entirety of the Democrat Party. This is incredibly dangerous.