This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
it’s trading almost 1:1 for HCQcoin but has cratered relative to IVMcoin since 2022. There used to be serious arbitrage opportunities before the boosters came out.
You should have invested in OmicronCoin. You’d be a billionaire. 😂
How true. Omicron was the coin that got the most traction. Who knew?
"crank doctors" are just doctors who told the truth and got black balled by Big Pharma. Yes, this is a real phenomenon. And this is exactly what I mean. It's impossible to get through to people like you.
I love that lay people think vomiting a list of 2870 papers is somehow evidence.
Yet, nobody can write a simple article that clearly lays out the key points with data to back it.
Population level data showing changes in mortality or diseases (CVD, cancers, etc) that correlate positively with vaccination rates: None – in fact is usually the inverse
Trials that show high rates of severe adverse events: None
Data that shows risks of adverse events higher than from COVID: None
It's extremely telling that the best people can do when asked to point to actual data is hem and haw about their buddies wife who definitely got a covid vaccine injury. Literally that's all they can do. You'd think if there was so much data and evidence that they'd, you know, post it?
In addition to the multitude of other top epidemiologists provided previously saying the same thing, here’s this.
And you’re just going to throw out all of this purely on the basis of it being anecdotal? This is what I’m talking about. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. These stories are everywhere.
Why do I need long term studies for evidence of something that’s happening now? 4 years isn’t enough to see a safety signal? How small is the effect you’re proposing? Every death in the US is categorized! All these people talking and no evidence? I will accept your concession that you cannot provide evidence.
Oh wow I forgot the other iconic argument:
"just wait 2 years: everyone will drop dead"
They said this is 2021 and 2022. This is a long two years?
EDIT: this was meant as a response to a post by sub-9 talking about turbo cancer (lol)
bro you're sounding unhinged.
A crackpot doctor is ranting about vaccines. There is zero evidence of any issues from Japans population level statistics.
Feel free to remain gullible.
I literally said nothing about turbo cancer in that post other than it was the least compelling argument in the article (lol).
Another crackpot. Yep, there ya go... Japan's Peter McCullough. Now we are back on track. The good news is that Japan forced most of their people to take the vaccine to save them from the virus that *certainly* causes more cancer than the vax.
Not gullible. You never convinced me to take the vaccines given my age, risk level, and fitness. I'm not an idiot.
I don't buy fringe crypto either, which has literally no value to it other than the greater fool theory. Don't confuse brains with easy money. It's better to be lucky than smart, right?
Why are you still talking about the vax? Omicron made it obsolete for most people long ago. 👍 I wish the vaccines could have stopped Covid, but they couldn’t. Natural immunity FTW.
Compelling evidence!
You say you're a scientist. I don't believe you. Post your CV or it isn't true.
EDIT: this was meant as a response to a post by sub-9 talking about turbo cancer (lol)
bro you're sounding unhinged.
A crackpot doctor is ranting about vaccines. There is zero evidence of any issues from Japans population level statistics.
Feel free to remain gullible.
I literally said nothing about turbo cancer in that post other than it was the least compelling argument in the article (lol).
Another crackpot. Yep, there ya go... Japan's Peter McCullough. Now we are back on track. The good news is that Japan forced most of their people to take the vaccine to save them from the virus that *certainly* causes more cancer than the vax.
Not gullible. You never convinced me to take the vaccines given my age, risk level, and fitness. I'm not an idiot.
I don't buy fringe crypto either, which has literally no value to it other than the greater fool theory. Don't confuse brains with easy money. It's better to be lucky than smart, right?
McCullough got sued because he kept trying to pretend he was a Real Doctor at a Hospital after Baylor fired him.
That's just so pathetic.
And of course you're never going to get convinced by me. Antivaxx is your personality now. It's the contrarian belief that makes you feel in-control in this crazy world. Sadly being, like, a big football fan doesn't do it for some particularly low-agency people, they need to actually kill people to feel powerful. Dark...
A lot of antivaxxers got rug pulled with Omicron! I wish we could ask them if they regret it but they're dead, so. At least they didn't get coerced.
Just think about how many more would be dead if not for Omicron. It was deadly, but stopped the pandemic - something the vaccines had failed to do. 👍
Death rates were way down before Omicron – because of the vaccine. You've yet to provide evidence otherwise. I know I'm right and I'll just respond with this every time because you can't prove me wrong. Life is good.
I literally said nothing about turbo cancer in that post other than it was the least compelling argument in the article (lol).
Another crackpot. Yep, there ya go... Japan's Peter McCullough. Now we are back on track. The good news is that Japan forced most of their people to take the vaccine to save them from the virus that *certainly* causes more cancer than the vax.
Not gullible. You never convinced me to take the vaccines given my age, risk level, and fitness. I'm not an idiot.
I don't buy fringe crypto either, which has literally no value to it other than the greater fool theory. Don't confuse brains with easy money. It's better to be lucky than smart, right?
McCullough got sued because he kept trying to pretend he was a Real Doctor at a Hospital after Baylor fired him.
That's just so pathetic.
And of course you're never going to get convinced by me. Antivaxx is your personality now. It's the contrarian belief that makes you feel in-control in this crazy world. Sadly being, like, a big football fan doesn't do it for some particularly low-agency people, they need to actually kill people to feel powerful. Dark...
Your powers of persuasion are so poor that you resort to (assumed) character attacks again.
Nope, I thought many people should get vaccinated. Just not all people. There's a difference.
My personality is actually to play your foil, you know, a guy who is still stuck in 2021 and has no identity anymore, buys fringe crypto with no foundational, fundamental backing to it, and absolutely lacks humility and can't stand to be called out on anything.
McCullough got sued because he kept trying to pretend he was a Real Doctor at a Hospital after Baylor fired him.
That's just so pathetic.
And of course you're never going to get convinced by me. Antivaxx is your personality now. It's the contrarian belief that makes you feel in-control in this crazy world. Sadly being, like, a big football fan doesn't do it for some particularly low-agency people, they need to actually kill people to feel powerful. Dark...
Speaking of Baylor, they employ one of the biggest vax pushers on Earth. A doofus who admits to a diet of junk food.
In addition to the multitude of other top epidemiologists provided previously saying the same thing, here’s this.
And you’re just going to throw out all of this purely on the basis of it being anecdotal? This is what I’m talking about. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. These stories are everywhere.
Why do I need long term studies for evidence of something that’s happening now? 4 years isn’t enough to see a safety signal? How small is the effect you’re proposing? Every death in the US is categorized! All these people talking and no evidence? I will accept your concession that you cannot provide evidence.
Antivaxxers: accept my anecdotes as evidence, please daddy, it's all I have.
You say you're a scientist. I don't believe you. Post your CV or it isn't true.
😡😡😡😡 you cant ask me for evidence unless you're a scientist 😡😡😡😡
Hard to believe this is where the antivaxxers are now!
Boy did you ever miss it again. I’m merely playing your game. If you assert something, provide evidence or it isn’t true. You say you’re a scientist. Prove it. I have my doubts.
