I think it’s easy to understand how 46% of the country wants to put him back into power. You can sort people into a few different categories.
Some believe that Trump was anointed by God to be their champion so he can literally do no wrong. The Christian right pulled for GWB and Bob Dole and Ronnie but none of them had anywhere near the fervor around them that Trump does. Telling them that you have evidence that Trump broke the law isn’t very far from telling them that you have evidence that Jesus broke the law. God is the Law and so whatever his anointed champions do cannot be wrong.
For others, Trump is their guy on policy whether it’s burning every ounce of oil and timber we have access to or making sure that we have as many teen moms as possible so even if he’s a dirty rotten scoundrel and end democracy as we know it, he’s still going to implement the policies they want to the ends justify the means. Among that group, some genuinely think that the Democrats are just as corrupt and would go just as far. Others acknowledge that they wouldn’t go as far but they don’t care. Trump has shown that fairness need not apply for a significant part of the voting populace.
There are plenty of people on this forum that are at their happiest as when liberals are pissed off. If that’s your top priority then Trump’s your candidate and who cares how he does it?
It comes down to one factor: which president did the better job in office. All the other stuff is just noise. You want to try to get people to not look at substance and instead look at stuff that has no bearing on their daily lives.
wild that the Rs are claiming trump did a good job.
Trump is literally ranked last or in the worst three of every president who has ever served in all the surveys.
Last. Worst. Max awfulness. Double plus bad for your orwell fans.
He was a terrible president.
Trump was a failure and it will be worse this time with immunity and how much they have learned about how to fight the constitution and norms.
"President Biden is in a tight race to keep former President Donald Trump from reclaiming the White House, recent polls show. But that's not how 154 historians and presidential experts see it: They rate Biden in the top third of U.S. presidents, while Trump ranks dead last. The 2024 edition of the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey has Biden in 14th place, just ahead of Woodrow Wilson and Ronald Reagan. Trump comes in 45th, behind fellow impeachee Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan, the perennial cellar-dweller in such ratings due to his pre-Civil War leadership."
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. How would she handle the presidency when she stumbles through favorable interviews.
Apples and oranges. In Trump's case we know he is a criminal who attempted to violate our constitution to remain in power. You and I both agree he is a total con man and can't be trusted. He has tried and will continue to try to ruin democracy.
With Harris, there is only projection of her effect on the economy and it's subjective opinion.
Also, you are the only Trumper here who knows Trump is a total con man who conned millions that he won. I am sorry to say that you are much more culpable than the other Trumpers here. They are ignorant of the truth and have been totally fooled by Trump.
You know better and still support him.
Don't support him at all. I am anti-Harris. As president she would do everything to allow even more millions of illegals into the country and grant them amnesty and voting rights so Democrats will be in power for decades. Democrats want power. Don't care about the country.
Jack Smith gives us a clearer picture of what Trump was doing every minute of Jan 6th through his phone forensics. Trump was planted in the small "dining" area outside the oval in front of a massive TV and scrolling Twitter on his phone. He was glued to the action. Ignoring pleas from his allies, aides and family to do something. After all, he is the President. He has a duty to protect not only the police officers but all US citizens.
He was watching fox News and the timeline proves he saw them report that a police officer was injured. He did nothing. Then he saw that the capitol was breached and now lawmakers lives were in immediate danger. They were being evacuated. This was when he decided to send the tweet that Mike Pence failed him because he did not have courage. Further enraging the crowd and causing Pence to have to be moved away to protect his life.
Incomprehensible indeed how anyone can justify putting that back in power.
There have been multiple breaches of the capitol or Cannon Building (you know where AOC’s office actually is where she was fearing for her life). This is just the most recent:
Dozens of protesters rallied outside his hotel Monday evening, and on Tuesday afternoon, hundreds of demonstrators took over the rotunda of the Cannon Building, which houses offices of House of Representatives members.
Me personally, I’d be more afraid of the people violently beating on my door than on some guy in a Buffalo headdress waving a flag a building over (who was non-violent and received a multi-year sentence). Just curious if these individuals have been given similar sentences to those handed down to the Jan 6 individuals who committed similar offenses. AOC, Tlaib et al. Have actively encouraged these actions.
The U.S. Capitol Police arrested numerous pro-Palestinian demonstrators Thursday who had staged a die-in alongside a banner with the message "ceasefire now" inside the rotunda of the Cannon House Office Building.
Apples and oranges. In Trump's case we know he is a criminal who attempted to violate our constitution to remain in power. You and I both agree he is a total con man and can't be trusted. He has tried and will continue to try to ruin democracy.
With Harris, there is only projection of her effect on the economy and it's subjective opinion.
Also, you are the only Trumper here who knows Trump is a total con man who conned millions that he won. I am sorry to say that you are much more culpable than the other Trumpers here. They are ignorant of the truth and have been totally fooled by Trump.
You know better and still support him.
Don't support him at all. I am anti-Harris. As president she would do everything to allow even more millions of illegals into the country and grant them amnesty and voting rights so Democrats will be in power for decades. Democrats want power. Don't care about the country.
Donald Trump's involvement in organizing the January 6th Insurrection was not just "worse than Watergate." Trump had a dozen scandals that were worse than Watergate. January 6th wasn't Watergate, it was treason.
If Donald Trump wins this election, the postmortems on Kamala Harris’ campaign should put her choice of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her running mate at the to...
Don't support him at all. I am anti-Harris. As president she would do everything to allow even more millions of illegals into the country and grant them amnesty and voting rights so Democrats will be in power for decades. Democrats want power. Don't care about the country.
A President can’t grant voting rights.
In a binary election, if you are anti-Harris you support Trump for president.
Harris and Biden have shut down the border. Trump blocked a bill that would do that. I do believe that early on Biden could have done more but he is doing well on this issue now.
Dems: keep giving Israel 100% free rein to bomb whatever it wants, with no regard to civilian safety at all, and keep pushing gender ideology! Please, I encourage you, keep it up!
(1) The US came out of COVID much stronger than other countries.
(2) By all measures we are currently in an excellent position economically. Lets not fck it up by going back to Trump
We are teetering on recession, we are running $2 trillion annual deficits 4 years after COVID, the interest rate on the massive pile of debt has risen as a result of Bidenflation to the point where we are paying over $1 trillion annually in interest and will continue to rise until we can get close to an additional 2% in rate cuts, are funding two proxy wars that threaten to become nuclear, we have massive numbers of new immigrants who are receiving massive amounts of federal and local tax dollars through FEMA (to the point we do not have funds to respond to actual emergencies), Medicaid (which is causing many hospitals to operate on unsustainable margins), welfare, etc. And you want to elect the person who wants to give away more free stuff ($25k for new home buyers, $6k child tax credit, etc.), wants more immigrants, wants to continue the endless wars, wants to increase energy prices, wants a green new deal, etc. and wants to increase taxes by a massive amount to pay for it all crushing the stock market and jobs in the process.
In a binary election, if you are anti-Harris you support Trump for president.
Harris and Biden have shut down the border. Trump blocked a bill that would do that. I do believe that early on Biden could have done more but he is doing well on this issue now.
I live in a deep blue state. I’m probably voting for RFK as a middle finger to the Democratic party for trying to kick him off the ballot.
(1) The US came out of COVID much stronger than other countries.
(2) By all measures we are currently in an excellent position economically. Lets not fck it up by going back to Trump
We are teetering on recession, we are running $2 trillion annual deficits 4 years after COVID, the interest rate on the massive pile of debt has risen as a result of Bidenflation to the point where we are paying over $1 trillion annually in interest and will continue to rise until we can get close to an additional 2% in rate cuts, are funding two proxy wars that threaten to become nuclear, we have massive numbers of new immigrants who are receiving massive amounts of federal and local tax dollars through FEMA (to the point we do not have funds to respond to actual emergencies), Medicaid (which is causing many hospitals to operate on unsustainable margins), welfare, etc. And you want to elect the person who wants to give away more free stuff ($25k for new home buyers, $6k child tax credit, etc.), wants more immigrants, wants to continue the endless wars, wants to increase energy prices, wants a green new deal, etc. and wants to increase taxes by a massive amount to pay for it all crushing the stock market and jobs in the process.
we are not teetering on recession, we are booming at around 3% real GDP growth
Rs are worse on the debt than the Dems so no points made there. Agreed both parties are disasters on the debt/deficit.
Most of the Rs in the senate voted to defund FEMA just a couple years ago. Nice, boys. Nice.
and anyway, the biden economy is one of the best in a generation. Might be the best in a generation.
Apples and oranges. In Trump's case we know he is a criminal who attempted to violate our constitution to remain in power. You and I both agree he is a total con man and can't be trusted. He has tried and will continue to try to ruin democracy.
With Harris, there is only projection of her effect on the economy and it's subjective opinion.
Also, you are the only Trumper here who knows Trump is a total con man who conned millions that he won. I am sorry to say that you are much more culpable than the other Trumpers here. They are ignorant of the truth and have been totally fooled by Trump.
You know better and still support him.
Don't support him at all. I am anti-Harris. As president she would do everything to allow even more millions of illegals into the country and grant them amnesty and voting rights so Democrats will be in power for decades. Democrats want power. Don't care about the country.
If this is Harris’ plan, why hasn’t Biden done exactly that already? According to you, Biden should have already given citizenship to 10,000,000 illegal aliens and gotten them to all vote Democrat. What has stopped Biden from tipping the scales forever?
NEW: ICE has found & arrested a Haitian migrant charged w/ aggravated child rape after local authorities in sanctuary state Massachusetts released him on just $500 bond. He flew into the U.S. last year as part of Biden admin’s controversial mass parole program, which DHS has now paused after an internal audit found significant fraud in the program. In this case, the suspect was supposed to be with his parole sponsor in Newark, NJ. Instead, as a single adult male, he somehow ended up at a hotel for migrant families outside of Boston, where he’s charged with raping a 15-year-old girl. More than half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela have now flown into the U.S. via this Biden parole program.
Dems: keep giving Israel 100% free rein to bomb whatever it wants, with no regard to civilian safety at all, and keep pushing gender ideology! Please, I encourage you, keep it up!
Stephens was born in New York City,[3] the son of Xenia and Charles J. Stephens, a former vice president of General Products, a chemical company in Mexico.[4][5] Both his parents were secular Jews
Apples and oranges. In Trump's case we know he is a criminal who attempted to violate our constitution to remain in power. You and I both agree he is a total con man and can't be trusted. He has tried and will continue to try to ruin democracy.
With Harris, there is only projection of her effect on the economy and it's subjective opinion.
Also, you are the only Trumper here who knows Trump is a total con man who conned millions that he won. I am sorry to say that you are much more culpable than the other Trumpers here. They are ignorant of the truth and have been totally fooled by Trump.
You know better and still support him.
Don't support him at all. I am anti-Harris. As president she would do everything to allow even more millions of illegals into the country and grant them amnesty and voting rights so Democrats will be in power for decades. Democrats want power. Don't care about the country.
Just curious, why do you care about the border so much? In your words, why is it a major problem?
We are 34 days away from the most consequential election in our history. Please be reminded that our choice is NOT between Republicans and Democrats, it is between FREEDOM and COMMUNISM! pic.twitter.com/HOKiUGntDq
In a binary election, if you are anti-Harris you support Trump for president.
Harris and Biden have shut down the border. Trump blocked a bill that would do that. I do believe that early on Biden could have done more but he is doing well on this issue now.
What do you mean Harris and Biden have shut down the border? Are you seriously saying that. 12 million illegals have come here since they took over the WH. You seriously can't be saying that.
Dems: keep giving Israel 100% free rein to bomb whatever it wants, with no regard to civilian safety at all, and keep pushing gender ideology! Please, I encourage you, keep it up!
Stephens was born in New York City,[3] the son of Xenia and Charles J. Stephens, a former vice president of General Products, a chemical company in Mexico.[4][5] Both his parents were secular Jews