This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Big Pharma could not get their emergency use authorization (and so be allowed to get the jab out without proper testing) if there were existing drugs that could treat Covid.
It's difficult to conclusively prove they were vaccine related at the individual level, but if the effects were as common as you're suggesting, they'd stick out like a sore thumb in the population statistics.
They don't.
But I repeat myself.
Unless they go unreported and undiagnosed as such. Which is extremely common.
Population statistics don't rely on individual reports.
Unless you are claiming that the vaxx-injured don't interact with the hospital system and are somehow missed by death certificates, for example.
Rates of CVD, cancer, excess deaths, etc all lower in the vaccine era.
Noooo, you have to take another vaccine. And another one. And a bivalent. And still get an Omicron infection to finally end this thing. But if you are in a “high risk” group, which we cannot define, then you’re going to need two more and an annual boost. “Trust us,” it’s effective, safe, a net positive, and worth it.
Yeah there are studies that show they work. So please, take another.
Noooo don't take this thing that evidence supports, you have to take this random supplement instead!!!1
Let’s all party like it’s 2021! 🎉
It’s over Harambro. Omicron ended the pandemic. Vaccines had been out for over a year and couldn’t stop it. Omicron ended it in mere months. 👍
Nothing is stopping you from getting another booster though and reducing that net positive. 😂
Big Pharma could not get their emergency use authorization (and so be allowed to get the jab out without proper testing) if there were existing drugs that could treat Covid.
This is an EXCELLENT point. I want to expand on it in cause some readers aren't familiar with the money that could come to Fauci as a result of the EUA.
NIH had a patent royalty agreement with Moderna that stypulates that a percent of Moderna mRNA sales will be paid to NIH. This money does NOT go to NIH directly; it goes to individuals within NIH who are not disclosed. Who are those individuals? It's not Joe the Janitor; it's most likely Collins and Fauci.
Without the EUA, the mRNA vaccines would not have been approved in 2020.
However, an EUA can only be issued when there is no other treatment for the disease.
This is really a huge point. Emails show Fauci bullied his expert panel into reversing their recommendation on invermectin back in 2020.
You might argue that later studies found ivermectin to be ineffective. That's irrelevant because in April 2020. Fauci didn't know what the outcome of those studies would be. Instead of recommending that these studies be pursued, he forced the panel to reverse their recommendation on ivermectin.
While Fauci didn't know what the outcome of invermectin studies would be, he did know that if Moderna didn't get the EUA, then those unnamed persons in the NIH would not get a share of the millions in royalties Moderna paid to NIH. I'd bet that Fauci was on that list of unnamed persons getting a piece of those millions.
This is a very clear conflict of interest.
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Big Pharma could not get their emergency use authorization (and so be allowed to get the jab out without proper testing) if there were existing drugs that could treat Covid.
This is an EXCELLENT point. I want to expand on it in cause some readers aren't familiar with the money that could come to Fauci as a result of the EUA.
NIH had a patent royalty agreement with Moderna that stypulates that a percent of Moderna mRNA sales will be paid to NIH. This money does NOT go to NIH directly; it goes to individuals within NIH who are not disclosed. Who are those individuals? It's not Joe the Janitor; it's most likely Collins and Fauci.
Without the EUA, the mRNA vaccines would not have been approved in 2020.
However, an EUA can only be issued when there is no other treatment for the disease.
This is really a huge point. Emails show Fauci bullied his expert panel into reversing their recommendation on invermectin back in 2020.
You might argue that later studies found ivermectin to be ineffective. That's irrelevant because in April 2020. Fauci didn't know what the outcome of those studies would be. Instead of recommending that these studies be pursued, he forced the panel to reverse their recommendation on ivermectin.
While Fauci didn't know what the outcome of invermectin studies would be, he did know that if Moderna didn't get the EUA, then those unnamed persons in the NIH would not get a share of the millions in royalties Moderna paid to NIH. I'd bet that Fauci was on that list of unnamed persons getting a piece of those millions.
This is a very clear conflict of interest.
Because treatments for a vaccines for the same diseases could never happen.
WTF is this BS. You need both effective treatments and preventative treatments.
I suspect you are confusing IVM and HCQ? There was virtually no chatter about IVM in 2020. HCQ had large scale trials completed in 2020 that showed little benefit.
I promise you the NIAID is taking a large chunk of the royalty payments from Moderna, with specific inventors from the collaboration: Corbett, Graham, and Mascola who were at the NIH Vaccine Research Center, also having inventor claim. There is zero mention of Fauci or Collins being an inventor and thus having royalty rights.
The public/private partnership between the U.S. | Moderna's highly-successful COVID-19 vaccine was developed thanks in large part to funding from the U.S. government and assistance from the NIH. But a patent dispute has been...
This is an EXCELLENT point. I want to expand on it in cause some readers aren't familiar with the money that could come to Fauci as a result of the EUA.
NIH had a patent royalty agreement with Moderna that stypulates that a percent of Moderna mRNA sales will be paid to NIH. This money does NOT go to NIH directly; it goes to individuals within NIH who are not disclosed. Who are those individuals? It's not Joe the Janitor; it's most likely Collins and Fauci.
Without the EUA, the mRNA vaccines would not have been approved in 2020.
However, an EUA can only be issued when there is no other treatment for the disease.
This is really a huge point. Emails show Fauci bullied his expert panel into reversing their recommendation on invermectin back in 2020.
You might argue that later studies found ivermectin to be ineffective. That's irrelevant because in April 2020. Fauci didn't know what the outcome of those studies would be. Instead of recommending that these studies be pursued, he forced the panel to reverse their recommendation on ivermectin.
While Fauci didn't know what the outcome of invermectin studies would be, he did know that if Moderna didn't get the EUA, then those unnamed persons in the NIH would not get a share of the millions in royalties Moderna paid to NIH. I'd bet that Fauci was on that list of unnamed persons getting a piece of those millions.
This is a very clear conflict of interest.
Because treatments for a vaccines for the same diseases could never happen.
WTF is this BS. You need both effective treatments and preventative treatments.
I suspect you are confusing IVM and HCQ? There was virtually no chatter about IVM in 2020. HCQ had large scale trials completed in 2020 that showed little benefit.
I promise you the NIAID is taking a large chunk of the royalty payments from Moderna, with specific inventors from the collaboration: Corbett, Graham, and Mascola who were at the NIH Vaccine Research Center, also having inventor claim. There is zero mention of Fauci or Collins being an inventor and thus having royalty rights.
If you are correct, I stand corrected. I'll double check.
You seem unusually knowledgeable in this. What is your vested interest in the vaccine? You appear to have one because you have a job, yet you're here almost every day except for that period of two weeks one summer when you and Harambe disappeared and then started posting again at the same time.
While looking for a saved article about Fauci bullying an expert to change their group's paper on ivermectin, I came across this email confirming a post I made earlier about Fauci taking 5,000 IU of vitamin D daily. I stand corrected on that. He takes 6,000 IU of vitamin D daily.
For reference, the RDA of vitamin D is 800 IU for age 70+ so Fauci takes 7 1/2 times the RDA of vitamin D.
He could have mentioned that in his daily press conference bully pulpits telling us to mask up and stay 6 feet away from people. By the way, there's no clinical trial confirming that 6 feet is the magical distance beyond which a coronavirus particle can travel in the air, but it didn't keep Fauci from hammering us with his best guess day after day.
So, for anyone reading this who has an open mind, can you see the hypocrisy here? Fauci takes 7 1/2 times the RDA of vitamin D to boost his immune system and doesn't mention it in his daily press conferences in 2020, but he tells us to stay 6 feet away from others.
Because treatments for a vaccines for the same diseases could never happen.
WTF is this BS. You need both effective treatments and preventative treatments.
I suspect you are confusing IVM and HCQ? There was virtually no chatter about IVM in 2020. HCQ had large scale trials completed in 2020 that showed little benefit.
I promise you the NIAID is taking a large chunk of the royalty payments from Moderna, with specific inventors from the collaboration: Corbett, Graham, and Mascola who were at the NIH Vaccine Research Center, also having inventor claim. There is zero mention of Fauci or Collins being an inventor and thus having royalty rights.
If you are correct, I stand corrected. I'll double check.
You seem unusually knowledgeable in this. What is your vested interest in the vaccine? You appear to have one because you have a job, yet you're here almost every day except for that period of two weeks one summer when you and Harambe disappeared and then started posting again at the same time.
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
If you are correct, I stand corrected. I'll double check.
You seem unusually knowledgeable in this. What is your vested interest in the vaccine? You appear to have one because you have a job, yet you're here almost every day except for that period of two weeks one summer when you and Harambe disappeared and then started posting again at the same time.
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
I knew he was a pharmaceutical zombie like his sidekick 2600 bro. 😉
This is an EXCELLENT point. I want to expand on it in cause some readers aren't familiar with the money that could come to Fauci as a result of the EUA.
NIH had a patent royalty agreement with Moderna that stypulates that a percent of Moderna mRNA sales will be paid to NIH. This money does NOT go to NIH directly; it goes to individuals within NIH who are not disclosed. Who are those individuals? It's not Joe the Janitor; it's most likely Collins and Fauci.
Without the EUA, the mRNA vaccines would not have been approved in 2020.
However, an EUA can only be issued when there is no other treatment for the disease.
This is really a huge point. Emails show Fauci bullied his expert panel into reversing their recommendation on invermectin back in 2020.
You might argue that later studies found ivermectin to be ineffective. That's irrelevant because in April 2020. Fauci didn't know what the outcome of those studies would be. Instead of recommending that these studies be pursued, he forced the panel to reverse their recommendation on ivermectin.
While Fauci didn't know what the outcome of invermectin studies would be, he did know that if Moderna didn't get the EUA, then those unnamed persons in the NIH would not get a share of the millions in royalties Moderna paid to NIH. I'd bet that Fauci was on that list of unnamed persons getting a piece of those millions.
This is a very clear conflict of interest.
Because treatments for a vaccines for the same diseases could never happen.
WTF is this BS. You need both effective treatments and preventative treatments.
I suspect you are confusing IVM and HCQ? There was virtually no chatter about IVM in 2020. HCQ had large scale trials completed in 2020 that showed little benefit.
I promise you the NIAID is taking a large chunk of the royalty payments from Moderna, with specific inventors from the collaboration: Corbett, Graham, and Mascola who were at the NIH Vaccine Research Center, also having inventor claim. There is zero mention of Fauci or Collins being an inventor and thus having royalty rights.
Just to correct the record, there was a lot of chatter about Ivermectin in 2020. Without commenting on the merits of any of the research, this was out there early. I visited with my old NC physician-friend in NC in February 2021, and he was a big proponent of Ivermectin, per Tess Lawrie's controlled studies. Again, whatever you think the research showed or if it was administered early enough, for long enough, at a high enough dose, and as an ionophore, is irrelevant. The point is, IVM was well known in 2020. So, don't confuse it with HCQ, try as you might.
Also, I generally have a problem with any pharmaceutical company paying royalties to government organizations, even if the government did "seed" the research. That's a kind of nepotism that should have a huge barrier, like Boeing and the FAA. Revolving doors between agencies and pharma should not exist, but, yet they do.
Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved...
Background: Up-to-date, there is no recognized effective treatment or vaccine for the treatment of COVID-19 that emphasize urgency around distinctive effective therapies. This study aims to evaluate the anti-parasitic medicat...
If you are correct, I stand corrected. I'll double check.
You seem unusually knowledgeable in this. What is your vested interest in the vaccine? You appear to have one because you have a job, yet you're here almost every day except for that period of two weeks one summer when you and Harambe disappeared and then started posting again at the same time.
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
Is he still stealing and registering your handles?
Remember when someone stole his registered handle the other night and spammed the thread? That was epic. How do you steal a registered handle?
While looking for a saved article about Fauci bullying an expert to change their group's paper on ivermectin, I came across this email confirming a post I made earlier about Fauci taking 5,000 IU of vitamin D daily. I stand corrected on that. He takes 6,000 IU of vitamin D daily.
For reference, the RDA of vitamin D is 800 IU for age 70+ so Fauci takes 7 1/2 times the RDA of vitamin D.
He could have mentioned that in his daily press conference bully pulpits telling us to mask up and stay 6 feet away from people. By the way, there's no clinical trial confirming that 6 feet is the magical distance beyond which a coronavirus particle can travel in the air, but it didn't keep Fauci from hammering us with his best guess day after day.
So, for anyone reading this who has an open mind, can you see the hypocrisy here? Fauci takes 7 1/2 times the RDA of vitamin D to boost his immune system and doesn't mention it in his daily press conferences in 2020, but he tells us to stay 6 feet away from others.
C’mon, these guys have told you time and time again, the science evolves. So, while nobody was telling you to take vit D in 2020, now everyone is saying knock yourself out. My own doctor, who somehow missed the vit D advice back in 2020, 2021, 2022 is now telling me to supplement at up to 10,000 IU per day because mine is low at 49 ng/mL. He evolved.
If you are correct, I stand corrected. I'll double check.
You seem unusually knowledgeable in this. What is your vested interest in the vaccine? You appear to have one because you have a job, yet you're here almost every day except for that period of two weeks one summer when you and Harambe disappeared and then started posting again at the same time.
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
Nah, he’s a crypto millionaire, remember, lol? That’s what he told us.
For sure the dude works in pharma and probably has the chemistry or biochemistry degree. I would not be at all surprised to discover he works for Moderna or Pfizer or a related company actually, which should’ve been disclosed if true.
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
Is he still stealing and registering your handles?
Remember when someone stole his registered handle the other night and spammed the thread? That was epic. How do you steal a registered handle?
Yep. A few more today or last night. 😂
He’s collecting them like baseball cards.
I guess he thinks I’ll run out of numbers eventually. 😂
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
Nah, he’s a crypto millionaire, remember, lol? That’s what he told us.
For sure the dude works in pharma and probably has the chemistry or biochemistry degree. I would not be at all surprised to discover he works for Moderna or Pfizer or a related company actually, which should’ve been disclosed if true.
Crypto millionaire. Yeah that’s the ticket. I bet his wife, ahhh Morgan Fairchild, is proud of him. 😂
It’s been established that Harambro is a pharmaceutical sales rep. Probably posting in between appointments to drop off literature/samples at doctor’s offices.
Nah, he’s a crypto millionaire, remember, lol? That’s what he told us.
For sure the dude works in pharma and probably has the chemistry or biochemistry degree. I would not be at all surprised to discover he works for Moderna or Pfizer or a related company actually, which should’ve been disclosed if true.
As a PSYOP Soldier, you’ll work in small teams to execute missions around the world. It will be crucial that you create a human connection with leaders and civilians—relationships necessary to influence their beliefs and actions. You’ll also use social media, digital marketing, and pamphlets to share information meant to help change minds and behaviors in the U.S. Army’s interest.
Nah, he’s a crypto millionaire, remember, lol? That’s what he told us.
For sure the dude works in pharma and probably has the chemistry or biochemistry degree. I would not be at all surprised to discover he works for Moderna or Pfizer or a related company actually, which should’ve been disclosed if true.
As a PSYOP Soldier, you’ll work in small teams to execute missions around the world. It will be crucial that you create a human connection with leaders and civilians—relationships necessary to influence their beliefs and actions. You’ll also use social media, digital marketing, and pamphlets to share information meant to help change minds and behaviors in the U.S. Army’s interest.
That is certainly a possibilty. Former military PSYOPs specialists have probably been hired by the Moderna propaganda apparatus. No doubt Pfizer and other pharma companies have established similar units.
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Behind the scenes, the marketing arm of the company has been working with former law enforcement officials and public health officials to monitor and influence vaccine policy. Key to this is a drug industry-funded NGO called Public Good Projects. According to documents we have seen, PGP works closely with social media platforms, government agencies and news websites to confront the “root cause of vaccine hesitancy” by rapidly identifying and “shutting down misinformation”. A network of 45,000 healthcare professionals are given talking points “and advice on how to respond when vaccine misinformation goes mainstream”, according to an email from Moderna.
Moderna’s disinformation arm is perpetuating the public discourse wars that have been raging since early in the pandemic, aimed at shutting down anything that might undermine Covid-19-related policies, including lockdowns and efforts to encourage mass vaccinations. These documents provide a new window into the process that has roiled speech debates over the last three years.
With PGP, Moderna is monitoring a huge range of mainstream outlets, as well as unconventional ones, such as the Steam online gaming community and Medium. Meanwhile, Moderna also retains Talkwalker which uses its “Blue Silk” artificial intelligence to monitor vaccine-related conversations across 150 million websites in nearly 200 countries. Discussions around “competitor” issues, including discussions of Pfizer are flagged as well as vaccine hesitancy.
As a PSYOP Soldier, you’ll work in small teams to execute missions around the world. It will be crucial that you create a human connection with leaders and civilians—relationships necessary to influence their beliefs and actions. You’ll also use social media, digital marketing, and pamphlets to share information meant to help change minds and behaviors in the U.S. Army’s interest.
That is certainly a possibilty. Formermilitary PSYOPs specialists have probably been hired by the Moderna propaganda apparatus. No doubt Pfizer and other pharma companies have established similar units.
For whatever reasons, the Covid Hoax, lockdowns, and the "vaccines" were/are higher priority than any traditional military/national security (normal "U.S. Army's interest). Just the number of active soldiers refusing the "vaccines," leaving and being thrown out, and general increased reluctance of anyone to join up would justify having active military PSYOP teams on this issue.