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  • oddlees

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:22am EDT
    re: Fat hurts

    Oh, NO!

    Truth Social has a policy to turn over personal information over to the law enforcement (including IP addresses) ... but will it, or will it refuse and find itself shut down for failing to comply with court orders to support law enforcement?

    Trumpers: The party of defund the FBI, law enforcement and the courts.

    "Guidelines for law enforcement" - - Truth Social states that it complies with court orders to reveal user information, restrict access to accounts, or preserve posts. The site also works with law enforcement on "emergency requests," where they quickly turn over user information when it appears there's an immediate threat.

  • oddlees

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:23am EDT
    re: TheAdultInTheRoom

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    . . .

    ^Brain farter

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    SeattleSilver

    Member since 09/30/2020.

    2,614 posts. Last post 2 months ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:34am EDT
    re: Ghost of Igloi

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    a day of more moronic drivel from the idiot in the room wrote:

    Well, this is rich. You do realize that zerohedge is pretty much worthless and does whatever it can to help the cause of Russian propaganda, don't you? Somehow I don't think that fact would impress upon you since you appear to hate the United States.

    Link:www.hidemyass-freeproxy.com/proxy/en-u...

    If you truly believe that you would be more concerned about the subversion of the Constitution by the party in power.

    As a lawyer I'd like you to outline the details of this Constitutional subversion by the Democratic party. We can leave the comparisons to the subversions of the Constitution by Trump and the GOP for a second stage.

    And it just seems a bit dim to keep throwing out "Russia Hoax". I know Trump does it, but he is playing to the low information crowd. While Mueller found no conspiracy, and I'm comfortable with that conclusion, there was plenty of smoke that made an investigation the appropriate course of action. People in the Trump campaign were meeting with Russians. The book by Trump's campaign chair Paul Manfort even admits meeting with Russian's to share information. Even Don Jr met with the Russians. Then Jr lied about the meeting. Then it was admitted that even though DJT said he hadn't written Jr's explanation of the meeting, he in fact had written it. And it was a false description. All the while, the Russians were busy interfering with the election.

    So while ultimately there was no prosecutable coordination uncovered (there was obstruction but no prosecution on that was instigated), the fact of Russian contacts was not a hoax, and ignoring it would have been a dereliction of duty.

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    TheAdultInTheRoom

    Member since 05/13/2021.

    20,466 posts. Last post 8 months ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:36am EDT
    re: SeattleSilver

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    If you truly believe that you would be more concerned about the subversion of the Constitution by the party in power.

    As a lawyer I'd like you to outline the details of this Constitutional subversion by the Democratic party. We can leave the comparisons to the subversions of the Constitution by Trump and the GOP for a second stage.

    And it just seems a bit dim to keep throwing out "Russia Hoax". I know Trump does it, but he is playing to the low information crowd. While Mueller found no conspiracy, and I'm comfortable with that conclusion, there was plenty of smoke that made an investigation the appropriate course of action. People in the Trump campaign were meeting with Russians. The book by Trump's campaign chair Paul Manfort even admits meeting with Russian's to share information. Even Don Jr met with the Russians. Then Jr lied about the meeting. Then it was admitted that even though DJT said he hadn't written Jr's explanation of the meeting, he in fact had written it. And it was a false description. All the while, the Russians were busy interfering with the election.

    So while ultimately there was no prosecutable coordination uncovered (there was obstruction but no prosecution on that was instigated), the fact of Russian contacts was not a hoax, and ignoring it would have been a dereliction of duty.

    The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    It seems a bit "dim" to pretend this isn't the case.

  • sideshow joe

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:45am EDT
    re: Yessiree Bob

    It's been nine days since the raid. Anyone else think that if there was a smoking gun (like the alleged nuclear secrets that seem to have disappeared from the press) we would have heard about it by now? Or do you think that the government was relying on questionable intel (possibly from foreign sources, much like the Steele Dossier) and utilized a judge with anti-Trump sentiments to obtain a warrant for a search with the aim of obtaining a pile of unrelated non-confidential materials (including privileged attorney / client information) to bolster their January 6th investigation?

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    Fat hurts

    Member since 08/27/2014.

    11,272 posts. Last post 3 years ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:47am EDT
    re: TheAdultInTheRoom

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    As a lawyer I'd like you to outline the details of this Constitutional subversion by the Democratic party. We can leave the comparisons to the subversions of the Constitution by Trump and the GOP for a second stage.

    And it just seems a bit dim to keep throwing out "Russia Hoax". I know Trump does it, but he is playing to the low information crowd. While Mueller found no conspiracy, and I'm comfortable with that conclusion, there was plenty of smoke that made an investigation the appropriate course of action. People in the Trump campaign were meeting with Russians. The book by Trump's campaign chair Paul Manfort even admits meeting with Russian's to share information. Even Don Jr met with the Russians. Then Jr lied about the meeting. Then it was admitted that even though DJT said he hadn't written Jr's explanation of the meeting, he in fact had written it. And it was a false description. All the while, the Russians were busy interfering with the election.

    So while ultimately there was no prosecutable coordination uncovered (there was obstruction but no prosecution on that was instigated), the fact of Russian contacts was not a hoax, and ignoring it would have been a dereliction of duty.

    The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    It seems a bit "dim" to pretend this isn't the case.

    Unless you know the facts.

    If you do then it's quite dim to claim that "The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign."

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    TheAdultInTheRoom

    Member since 05/13/2021.

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    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:52am EDT
    re: Fat hurts

    Fat hurts wrote:

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    It seems a bit "dim" to pretend this isn't the case.

    Unless you know the facts.

    If you do then it's quite dim to claim that "The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign."

    LOL!

    The entire Russian collusion narrative was born with the fake Steel dossier.

    Every Democrat alive wanted James Comey fired in January. When Trump fired in him in May for refusing to do his job the Democrats suddenly thought it was scandalous.

    The entire Mueller investigation was BS and every rational person knows it. "obstruction of justice" for not bending over for a bogus political witch hunt? Gtfoh

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    SDSU Aztec

    Member since 06/06/2018.

    12,445 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:55am EDT
    re: sideshow joe

    sideshow joe wrote:

    It's been nine days since the raid. Anyone else think that if there was a smoking gun (like the alleged nuclear secrets that seem to have disappeared from the press) we would have heard about it by now? Or do you think that the government was relying on questionable intel (possibly from foreign sources, much like the Steele Dossier) and utilized a judge with anti-Trump sentiments to obtain a warrant for a search with the aim of obtaining a pile of unrelated non-confidential materials (including privileged attorney / client information) to bolster their January 6th investigation?

    Garland made the decision and not “the government”. If you check his Wikipedia bio, you’ll find he has an impeccable reputation and he’s an extremely cautious man. There’s no way he made the decision to serve the warrant based on sketchy evidence and he was well aware of the political backlash that would result from taking action against Trump.

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    SeattleSilver

    Member since 09/30/2020.

    2,614 posts. Last post 2 months ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 10:59am EDT

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    The entire Mueller investigation and "smoke" was a FAKE dossier created by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    It seems a bit "dim" to pretend this isn't the case.

    Typical lib response from someone with the handle Seattle Silver. A city that allowed a bunch of hobos the carve out an exclusion zone for “a summer of love.” 😹

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

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    surveysays

    Member since 02/25/2021.

    868 posts. Last post 5 days ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:01am EDT
    re: SeattleSilver

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    Typical lib response from someone with the handle Seattle Silver. A city that allowed a bunch of hobos the carve out an exclusion zone for “a summer of love.” 😹

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

    💯

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    TheAdultInTheRoom

    Member since 05/13/2021.

    20,466 posts. Last post 8 months ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:02am EDT
    re: SeattleSilver

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    Typical lib response from someone with the handle Seattle Silver. A city that allowed a bunch of hobos the carve out an exclusion zone for “a summer of love.” 😹

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

    The 5th Amendment is a thing. Google it. Then put on your little thinking cap and see if you can figure out why using a fabricated information to approve FISA warrants to spy on US citizens is a problem constitutionally.

  • Ghost of Igloi

    Member since 05/09/2006.

    31,334 posts. Last post 2 days ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:16am EDT
    re: SeattleSilver

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    Typical lib response from someone with the handle Seattle Silver. A city that allowed a bunch of hobos the carve out an exclusion zone for “a summer of love.” 😹

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

    Why should I waste my time arguing with you? In a few months your party’s reign of duplicity, like yours, will be limited. That is one great feature of the electoral system of representation.

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    hunter wheres the blow

    Member since 03/21/2022.

    3,931 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:22am EDT
    re: sideshow joe

    sideshow joe wrote:

    It's been nine days since the raid. Anyone else think that if there was a smoking gun (like the alleged nuclear secrets that seem to have disappeared from the press) we would have heard about it by now? Or do you think that the government was relying on questionable intel (possibly from foreign sources, much like the Steele Dossier) and utilized a judge with anti-Trump sentiments to obtain a warrant for a search with the aim of obtaining a pile of unrelated non-confidential materials (including privileged attorney / client information) to bolster their January 6th investigation?

    The smoking gun was that he took the documents to begin with. That was already illegal. We probably won’t learn what the documents contain because it’s classified information.

  • Commode flusher

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:24am EDT
    re: sideshow joe

    sideshow joe wrote:

    It's been nine days since the raid. Anyone else think that if there was a smoking gun (like the alleged nuclear secrets that seem to have disappeared from the press) we would have heard about it by now? Or do you think that the government was relying on questionable intel (possibly from foreign sources, much like the Steele Dossier) and utilized a judge with anti-Trump sentiments to obtain a warrant for a search with the aim of obtaining a pile of unrelated non-confidential materials (including privileged attorney / client information) to bolster their January 6th investigation?

    Haha! Nice try at an either/or dichotomous bongacity.

    It's only been nine days, Munk. Let us exercise the patience that god granted us, and watch the continuing developments. We remain objective, and fact insatiable. We are the best that you can get.

  • Commode flusher

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:33am EDT
    re: Ghost of Igloi

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

    Why should I waste my time arguing with you? In a few months your party’s reign of duplicity, like yours, will be limited. That is one great feature of the electoral system of representation.

    Yeah, but doesn't it go back and forth almost in perpetuity? Red wins, blue wins, red wins, blue wins, etc. In my opinion you need to keep wasting your time arguing with Silver in preparation for the election cycle after this one. It's important, Igloo. Iggy. Ignatius. Igster. Ig.

  • Ghost of Igloi

    Member since 05/09/2006.

    31,334 posts. Last post 2 days ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:39am EDT
    re: Commode flusher

    Commode flusher wrote:

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    Why should I waste my time arguing with you? In a few months your party’s reign of duplicity, like yours, will be limited. That is one great feature of the electoral system of representation.

    Yeah, but doesn't it go back and forth almost in perpetuity? Red wins, blue wins, red wins, blue wins, etc. In my opinion you need to keep wasting your time arguing with Silver in preparation for the election cycle after this one. It's important, Igloo. Iggy. Ignatius. Igster. Ig.

    Unfortunately so true. I have no real love for either party. As I have stated before, we have the leadership we deserve.

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    SeattleSilver

    Member since 09/30/2020.

    2,614 posts. Last post 2 months ago.
    3 years ago 08/17/2022 11:40am EDT
    re: Ghost of Igloi

    Ghost of Igloi wrote:

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    Your response translates to "I can't defend my statement about the Constitution or the Russia Hoax, so I'm going to say that I'm right just because you are from Seattle."

    I had presumed that you could discuss your allegations on an intellectual level. My mistake; you may resume your MAGMA sloganeering without my interference.

    Why should I waste my time arguing with you? In a few months your party’s reign of duplicity, like yours, will be limited. That is one great feature of the electoral system of representation.

    Of course you have no obligation to "argue". But this is a discussion forum and since you took the time to opine that the Democrats were harming the Constitution, it seemed reasonable to ask for for specifics. If you prefer to just vent without challenge, that is your choice. There are other places I can go to discuss matters with those who have different views than mine but can discourse with intellectual rigor and an absence of slogans.

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