So we have Trump, the Clintons, and now Schiff colluding with the Russians to undermine the 2016 election.
Ain't America great?
So we have Trump, the Clintons, and now Schiff colluding with the Russians to undermine the 2016 election.
Ain't America great?
DiscoGary wrote:
He was colluding with Russians. That's supposed to be bad. Now that it's Democrats it good! How about that?
You're just trolling at this point. Fakers reached out to him to tell him that the Kremlin has bigly kompromat on Trump. That would be a huge threat to our national security and he's a ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee. You think he's supposed to just hang up the phone and ignore it? You should notify law enforcement immediately, and that's exactly what he did. In no way does that fit the definition of collusion.
DiscoGary wrote:
Genuine Fake news wrote:
How retarded are you?
If he reports his interactions with Russians offering intelligence on political opponents with the FBI he is doing what a good American is supposed to do, not committing treason and implicitly also not using the material he was offered.
In effect, he is doing exactly what Donny Jr did not do: He didn't report his contacts to the FBI and explicitly asked for incriminating material.
This just goes to show how easy it is NOT to collude with Russia and how incompetent and corrupt the current administration is.
I'd also really like to know whether you've considered having your head tested.. you seem quite dumb.
He colluded with Russians and we have proof. We have no evidence that Trump colluded with Russians, yet that's all Dems are talking about. Two standards.
Plus he appeared on Russian state-sponsored TV in 2013.
It fits the straw man definition of collusion that he created, because he has no interest in intellectual honesty or integrity.
So all you Dems are saying that merely talking to Russians is not collusion. Exactly.
DiscoGary wrote:
So all you Dems are saying that merely talking to Russians is not collusion. Exactly.
No shit. You’re creating a false reality where Trump is expected to be hanged for merely talking to Russians. The investigation is due to not knowing the extent of the campaigns ties to Russia, ergo the need for investigating.
DiscoGary wrote:
He colluded with Russians and we have proof. We have no evidence that Trump colluded with Russians, yet that's all Dems are talking about. Two standards.
On the one hand, we have a guy took a call from pranksters and reported it to law enforcement.
On the other hand, we have, among a litany of other circumstantial evidence, a meeting Trump Jr. took with a Russian lawyer to obtain damaging info on Hillary Clinton and then attempted to cover up, the several members of Trump's Administration who have lied under oath about their communications/relationships with Russians, the several members of the Trump Team who've been indicted and plead guilty in a criminal probe examining Trump's relationship with Russia, all of Trump's financial connections to Russia that he refuses to be transparent about, and the fact that Trump has removed all of the sanctions we placed on Russia for attacking our electoral system and has not lifted a single, tiny finger to prevent the same thing from happening again.
DiscoGary wrote:
So all you Dems are saying that merely talking to Russians is not collusion. Exactly.
No. It is not.
However, Working Russian operatives to get information on a candidate, giving that information to an ex-British spy, paying the ex-spy to write a dossier who then gives it to the FBI without revealing who paid for it is collusion.
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The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
He colluded with Russians and we have proof. We have no evidence that Trump colluded with Russians, yet that's all Dems are talking about. Two standards.
On the one hand, we have a guy took a call from pranksters and reported it to law enforcement.
On the other hand, we have, among a litany of other circumstantial evidence, a meeting Trump Jr. took with a Russian lawyer to obtain damaging info on Hillary Clinton and then attempted to cover up, the several members of Trump's Administration who have lied under oath about their communications/relationships with Russians, the several members of the Trump Team who've been indicted and plead guilty in a criminal probe examining Trump's relationship with Russia, all of Trump's financial connections to Russia that he refuses to be transparent about, and the fact that Trump has removed all of the sanctions we placed on Russia for attacking our electoral system and has not lifted a single, tiny finger to prevent the same thing from happening again.
There's a completely unbiased reporting of the events. LMAO
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
He colluded with Russians and we have proof. We have no evidence that Trump colluded with Russians, yet that's all Dems are talking about. Two standards.
On the one hand, we have a guy took a call from pranksters and reported it to law enforcement.
On the other hand, we have, among a litany of other circumstantial evidence, a meeting Trump Jr. took with a Russian lawyer to obtain damaging info on Hillary Clinton and then attempted to cover up, the several members of Trump's Administration who have lied under oath about their communications/relationships with Russians, the several members of the Trump Team who've been indicted and plead guilty in a criminal probe examining Trump's relationship with Russia, all of Trump's financial connections to Russia that he refuses to be transparent about, and the fact that Trump has removed all of the sanctions we placed on Russia for attacking our electoral system and has not lifted a single, tiny finger to prevent the same thing from happening again.
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Gary - what's your explanation for why those around Trump have lied about their seemingly innocent engagements with Russian contacts. I agree there is nothing wrong with speaking to Russians about stuff that isn't considered illegal, so why lie when asked then? And please have a better answer than deep state.
Trollminator wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
On the one hand, we have a guy took a call from pranksters and reported it to law enforcement.
On the other hand, we have, among a litany of other circumstantial evidence, a meeting Trump Jr. took with a Russian lawyer to obtain damaging info on Hillary Clinton and then attempted to cover up, the several members of Trump's Administration who have lied under oath about their communications/relationships with Russians, the several members of the Trump Team who've been indicted and plead guilty in a criminal probe examining Trump's relationship with Russia, all of Trump's financial connections to Russia that he refuses to be transparent about, and the fact that Trump has removed all of the sanctions we placed on Russia for attacking our electoral system and has not lifted a single, tiny finger to prevent the same thing from happening again.
+1
Gary - what's your explanation for why those around Trump have lied about their seemingly innocent engagements with Russian contacts. I agree there is nothing wrong with speaking to Russians about stuff that isn't considered illegal, so why lie when asked then? And please have a better answer than deep state.
Wait! Are we saying that talking to Russians to obtain damaging information on a political opponent is collusion? Well then, Schiff is guilty of collusion!
Start the spin cycle all over again. You guys want to have this both ways. It's all falling apart.
DiscoGary wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Did you miss part where he talks about sharing this information with the FBI and the House Intelligence Committee? What about the part where Schiff notified law enforcement after the call was over? It's almost like you glossed over this information on purpose!
He was colluding with Russians. That's supposed to be bad. Now that it's Democrats it good! How about that?
It's not bad if you follow the law. Schiff followed the law. Trumpers didn't.
... and now we know that Obama lied when he said he wasn't involved in the FBI investigations. Where's the outrage? Where's the investigation?
Hillary and the DNC paid Steele to collude with the Russians to find dirt on Trump. Where's the investigation?
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
He was colluding with Russians. That's supposed to be bad. Now that it's Democrats it good! How about that?
What law did Trump's people violate?
It's not bad if you follow the law. Schiff followed the law. Trumpers didn't.
DiscoGary wrote:
... and now we know that Obama lied when he said he wasn't involved in the FBI investigations. Where's the outrage? Where's the investigation?
Hillary and the DNC paid Steele to collude with the Russians to find dirt on Trump. Where's the investigation?
We don’t know that.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
+1
Gary - what's your explanation for why those around Trump have lied about their seemingly innocent engagements with Russian contacts. I agree there is nothing wrong with speaking to Russians about stuff that isn't considered illegal, so why lie when asked then? And please have a better answer than deep state.
Wait! Are we saying that talking to Russians to obtain damaging information on a political opponent is collusion? Well then, Schiff is guilty of collusion!
Start the spin cycle all over again. You guys want to have this both ways. It's all falling apart.
There is no double standard, you’re just being a good shill and promoting intellectual dishonesty.
DiscoGary wrote:
... and now we know that Obama lied when he said he wasn't involved in the FBI investigations. Where's the outrage? Where's the investigation?
Hillary and the DNC paid Steele to collude with the Russians to find dirt on Trump. Where's the investigation?
While it would be easy enough to dismiss you and your ilk as trolling for sport, our reality is that you're really just parroting Fox & Friends which influences millions. The country is divided and it is by design. A shared set of objective truths and reality seems to be a non-existent. It's hard to see how anyone with American democracy as a priority stands to benefit from this.
How did we come to this?
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
+1
Gary - what's your explanation for why those around Trump have lied about their seemingly innocent engagements with Russian contacts. I agree there is nothing wrong with speaking to Russians about stuff that isn't considered illegal, so why lie when asked then? And please have a better answer than deep state.
Wait! Are we saying that talking to Russians to obtain damaging information on a political opponent is collusion? Well then, Schiff is guilty of collusion!
Start the spin cycle all over again. You guys want to have this both ways. It's all falling apart.
You’ve got yourself twisted... where in my post did I make a claim about collusion?. I’m simply asking you why you think they lied when asked about their interactions. Do you have an answer?
DiscoGary wrote:
... and now we know that Obama lied when he said he wasn't involved in the FBI investigations. Where's the outrage? Where's the investigation?
Hillary and the DNC paid Steele to collude with the Russians to find dirt on Trump. Where's the investigation?
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