Are new to this country? wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
We will find out what kind of country we are and if American values are just empty words.
My confidence in our leaders and our system is not as strong as yours. The samples of reasoning that I see on this message board are reflective of many in the general population. People can be easily swayed and manipulated. They can be told black is white and they will accept it as true. If our media and FBI tells them it's not the same it's because the media and FBI are just trying to trick them.
We shall find out who we are. The midterms may give us the answer.
Where have you been the last 30+ years? American values when it comes to politics has been dead for decades.
Trump will skate. Some low level people will be convicted of something and then later pardoned. Trump will still be POTUS. He may not will or run in 2020, but nothing significant will happen to him.
We've seen this time and time again.
Thinking Trump is somehow going down is delusional.
In fairness, I don’t think any of the rational posters are saying Trump is going to jail or leave office. It’s typically just the blowhards who oppose anything the opposition does.
When everything comes out, he probably should go to jail, but politicians take care of their own.
S.C.T. wrote:
Are new to this country? wrote:
Where have you been the last 30+ years? American values when it comes to politics has been dead for decades.
Trump will skate. Some low level people will be convicted of something and then later pardoned. Trump will still be POTUS. He may not will or run in 2020, but nothing significant will happen to him.
We've seen this time and time again.
Thinking Trump is somehow going down is delusional.
In fairness, I don’t think any of the rational posters are saying Trump is going to jail or leave office. It’s typically just the blowhards who oppose anything the opposition does.
When everything comes out, he probably should go to jail, but politicians take care of their own.
Yes, like the Democratic Politicians who take care of their own, right? Pelosi, Clintons, Obama, Reid, etc... If you can't admit that then are certainly the blowhard that you speak of.
Yes, Clinton certainly should be in jail and may end up there in the end.
Liberals can't face facts. Why? Simply because she lost the run for President.
Black & White wrote:
S.C.T. wrote:
In fairness, I don’t think any of the rational posters are saying Trump is going to jail or leave office. It’s typically just the blowhards who oppose anything the opposition does.
When everything comes out, he probably should go to jail, but politicians take care of their own.
Yes, like the Democratic Politicians who take care of their own, right? Pelosi, Clintons, Obama, Reid, etc... If you can't admit that then are certainly the blowhard that you speak of.
Of course Dems take care of their own. They fall under the umbrella of ‘politicians.’
Black & White wrote:
S.C.T. wrote:
In fairness, I don’t think any of the rational posters are saying Trump is going to jail or leave office. It’s typically just the blowhards who oppose anything the opposition does.
When everything comes out, he probably should go to jail, but politicians take care of their own.
Yes, like the Democratic Politicians who take care of their own, right? Pelosi, Clintons, Obama, Reid, etc... If you can't admit that then are certainly the blowhard that you speak of.
Clinton has been investigated numerous times, if she committed a crime convict her. I want all the truth to come out.
Can you honestly say you want all the truth to come out about trump?
Please answer that!
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine AM?
Libs in Conundrum wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt_ffNkg59wOuch!
Flagpole the clown is done!
Guarantee goes down!
The problem is not entirely that we have crooked politicians. The problem is you and those like you. Who are so easily manipulated into thinking just in terms our team versus theirs, that you forget to do think I'm terms what is right.
I would think you would want to know the truth and you would be appalled by the Republican congressmen who voted against you seeing the j notify report.
nontrumper wrote:
With all respect to Flagpole, I've been saying "country over party" for months. So f*ck off, Trumper. And Mueller Time is fast approaching!
Very true. All you anti-Trump people are definitely captain of your own ships.
Country over Party is a good saying.
The problem is not entirely that we have crooked politicians as much as it is "you and those like you". Based on your posts you are so easily manipulated into thinking just in terms of our team versus theirs, and "YOU" forget to do in terms of what is right.
I would think you would want to know the truth and you would be appalled by the Democratic congressmen who voted to protect Hillary Clinton when it was beyond obvious that she was lying.
If you really cared about the truth, you would have mentioned that months ago...but you didn't. She got a free pass, many in fact, but because she didn't win, you're fine with her lying (which you HAVE to be smart enough to know). Did it bother you when she lied as a Senator?
People like you and Flagpole are the real racists who voted for their Party, not the right candidate. Only an idiot would actually believe FB advertising influence a Presidential Election in our great Country. I have a FB account and I never saw one ad, not one, and I don't put anything political on my page, zero!!!!
Is that what you meant to say?^^^^
Flagpole wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
With all respect to Flagpole, I've been saying "country over party" for months. So f*ck off, Trumper. And Mueller Time is fast approaching!
Very true. All you anti-Trump people are definitely captain of your own ships.
Country over Party is a good saying.
Coming from someone who voted for Clinton, you really made yourself look dumb there.
Libs in Conundrum wrote:
The problem is not entirely that we have crooked politicians as much as it is "you and those like you". Based on your posts you are so easily manipulated into thinking just in terms of our team versus theirs, and "YOU" forget to do in terms of what is right.
I would think you would want to know the truth and you would be appalled by the Democratic congressmen who voted to protect Hillary Clinton when it was beyond obvious that she was lying.
If you really cared about the truth, you would have mentioned that months ago...but you didn't. She got a free pass, many in fact, but because she didn't win, you're fine with her lying (which you HAVE to be smart enough to know). Did it bother you when she lied as a Senator?
People like you and Flagpole are the real racists who voted for their Party, not the right candidate. Only an idiot would actually believe FB advertising influence a Presidential Election in our great Country. I have a FB account and I never saw one ad, not one, and I don't put anything political on my page, zero!!!!
Is that what you meant to say?^^^^
Do you live in OH, Michigan, or PA? Those were the target states, and the bulk of what they did wasn't "ads" but memes that supported Trump and railed on Hillary, and during the campaign in those states, there were tons of them...was incredible how many there were.
The responsibility of proof isn't on those who say those ads and memes caused a change. It is only on IF Trump or his team conspired with Russia to provide them, to target certain areas of the country. You are denying this happened because you didn't see any, but it has already been proven that they did this, and in HUGE numbers.
And, of course political advertising works...no one would do it if it didn't. Such advertising can mobilize one group and keep others at home on election day. That can have a huge effect even if not a single person changed their vote from Hillary to Trump.
Finally, I'm not so concerned that what Trump did actually allowed him to win. I am concerned about the attempt...attempt to conspire with Russia (Trump Jr. did that for sure) to get their help in meddling in our election. I believe there was more than just an attempt...Trump Jr. told the Russians when to release the dirt on Hillary "If what you say is true, I love it, especially later in the summer." THAT is collusion right there...whether Mueller will decide that rises to the level of conspiracy or not, we shall see.
Hillary is not the President. Nothing she did anywhere near approaches what Trump is accused of doing (and likely has done).
Libs in Conundrum wrote:
The problem is not entirely that we have crooked politicians as much as it is "you and those like you". Based on your posts you are so easily manipulated into thinking just in terms of our team versus theirs, and "YOU" forget to do in terms of what is right.
I would think you would want to know the truth and you would be appalled by the Democratic congressmen who voted to protect Hillary Clinton when it was beyond obvious that she was lying.
If you really cared about the truth, you would have mentioned that months ago...but you didn't. She got a free pass, many in fact, but because she didn't win, you're fine with her lying (which you HAVE to be smart enough to know). Did it bother you when she lied as a Senator?
People like you and Flagpole are the real racists who voted for their Party, not the right candidate. Only an idiot would actually believe FB advertising influence a Presidential Election in our great Country. I have a FB account and I never saw one ad, not one, and I don't put anything political on my page, zero!!!!
Is that what you meant to say?^^^^
Which is exactly why this thread won't ever die, but it will not have any substance. Democrats deny just how bad it would have been if Hillary had been elected, yet they wanted her to win which is beyond puzzling.
FP brags about money he made during the Obama years, but bitches when the market sees a drop after soaring to record levels---as if it would never go down.
Someone said it'll be the same on here in the Spring, Summer, Fall and next Winter. I couldn't agree more. 2 sides will never come together when there's no real honesty.
Trump is far from perfect and like most Presidents, he's not always honest. Wow, is that something new? Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc...
Trump and Clinton weren't the best choices, but what in God's great name do any of you think Hillary Clinton would be doing so differently that would be soooooo great and change your life how? Obama lied to get in.
To not admit that is pathetic. Raking leaves to get College Credit??? He said so much baloney to get elected it's ridiculous.
Thewoodsman3 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Very true. All you anti-Trump people are definitely captain of your own ships.
Country over Party is a good saying.
Coming from someone who voted for Clinton, you really made yourself look dumb there.
Hillary was the better choice of the two.
If she were in office and being accused of the things Trump is being accused of, I would rail on her too.
What a President has done is way more important than what a current normal citizen may or may not have done.
Just because one person may have been crooked does not mean another person gets a pass.
Yes, like this. But Democrats look away because of who says the facts, not the words that are factually being said.
Take a listen.
Are new to this country? wrote:
Thinking Trump is somehow going down is delusional.
Ever heard of Nixon?
Erfworm wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/carter-page-touted-kremlin-contacts-in-2013-letter/ar-BBIEEGE?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntpFor an administration who originally claimed "no Russian contacts", they sure had a lot of Russian contacts. If they had nothing to hide, why not just come clean about these contacts from the beginning?
YUGE Russian loans at bigly low interest rates. Never mind that it is laundering mob money.
HARDLOPER wrote:
Coming from someone who voted for tRUMP, me, I really made myself look dumb.
Henry David Thoreau's Cabin wrote:
FP brags about money he made during the Obama years, but bitches when the market sees a drop after soaring to record levels---as if it would never go down.
Dude, I was joking with the "Thanks Trump!" comment.
I know full well that the market goes down...I ride it out everytime and have a lot to show for it as a result.
Flagpole wrote:
Hillary was the better choice of the two.
+1
Rule of Voting: Never vote a straight party ticket.
For the simple reason that you never, never, never, never, never want to have one party in control of all three branches of government. I usually vote democratic, but if it looks like all of congress will be democratic then I will vote for a republican. I vote for Reagan and Bush v1.
This November I will vote straight democratic for the first time in several elections for the simple reason to put a check on the president. If you want something done then work with the other side. Adjust your demands until you have sufficient votes from both sides of the aisle.