Official Covid Vaccine thread

Harambe wrote:

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

Pretty good rage level for someone who wasn’t even being spoken to.

Btw, for others interested, I wasn’t promoting Ivermectin at all, but Fisky’s points about none of the studies administering it early enough or long enough are valid. None of the studies looked at Ivermectin for seven days plus, so they prove what they set out to prove, which is not much. Forget Ivermectin though, a virucidal nasal spray and vitamin D were just damn good ideas, vaccinated or not.

They are not valid. "Just one more trial" is not a valid critique. Basic pharmacology says that if you are contending that your drug works with a huge effect, you'd expect to see some signal even at suboptimal dosing or time frames. There is no signal. Nobody believes if you dosed 2 days long you'd magically see a big signal against COVID – especially when you have to go up against the extremely high efficacy of the vaccines.

And you quite literally promoted ivermectin the in the previous post, but I appreciate the backtracking. The small display of intellectual honesty is nice to see.

fisky wrote:

Moron Shep wrote:

Fisky, do you work for Project Veritas or something? I refuse to divulge my compensations or affiliations until you tell us who you really are.

My passion in finding alternative approaches to covid stems from my strong belief that everyone should take personal responsibility for their own health AND make good health a top priority in their lives.

Over the years, I've developed a structured philosophy on personal health issues that revolves around a central theme of being proactive about health. That same philosophy also guides my personal health decisions and as a result, the steps I've taken to prevent and/or treat COVID. Part of that philosophy is when traditional medicine cannot resolve an issue, you should proactively research alternative approaches and when they meet your risk/reward criteria, you should try them.

I can defend my position on vitamin D, nasal sprays, and ivermectin. I'd be happy to do so over a beer, but I don't see a need to do so now since your mind seems to be made up. We should probably just discuss masters running and training instead.

fisky wrote:

Moron Shep wrote:

Fisky, do you work for Project Veritas or something? I refuse to divulge my compensations or affiliations until you tell us who you really are.

I'm retired. I remembered the name Project Veritas, but I had to look it up to remind myself what they did. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any affiliation or financial interest in Project Veritas, any anti-vaxx organization, or any pro-vaxx organization. Frankly, some anti-vaxxers are nutjobs.

I'm reasonably well known in masters track and I'm the current national champion in the 400 meters in my age group. If you want to know who I am, cut and paste fisky's sig line into google. My name pops up. Fisky, by the way, is the name of our beloved dog who is now over the rainbow bridge.

My passion in finding alternative approaches to covid stems from my strong belief that everyone should take personal responsibility for their own health AND make good health a top priority in their lives.

Over the years, I've developed a structured philosophy on personal health issues that revolves around a central theme of being proactive about health. That same philosophy also guides my personal health decisions and as a result, the steps I've taken to prevent and/or treat COVID. Part of that philosophy is when traditional medicine cannot resolve an issue, you should proactively research alternative approaches and when they meet your risk/reward criteria, you should try them.

I can defend my position on vitamin D, nasal sprays, and ivermectin. I'd be happy to do so over a beer, but I don't see a need to do so now since your mind seems to be made up. We should probably just discuss masters running and training instead.

Rick Cheney wrote:

fisky wrote:

I'm retired. I remembered the name Project Veritas, but I had to look it up to remind myself what they did. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any affiliation or financial interest in Project Veritas, any anti-vaxx organization, or any pro-vaxx organization. Frankly, some anti-vaxxers are nutjobs.

I'm reasonably well known in masters track and I'm the current national champion in the 400 meters in my age group. If you want to know who I am, cut and paste fisky's sig line into google. My name pops up. Fisky, by the way, is the name of our beloved dog who is now over the rainbow bridge.

My passion in finding alternative approaches to covid stems from my strong belief that everyone should take personal responsibility for their own health AND make good health a top priority in their lives.

Over the years, I've developed a structured philosophy on personal health issues that revolves around a central theme of being proactive about health. That same philosophy also guides my personal health decisions and as a result, the steps I've taken to prevent and/or treat COVID. Part of that philosophy is when traditional medicine cannot resolve an issue, you should proactively research alternative approaches and when they meet your risk/reward criteria, you should try them.

I can defend my position on vitamin D, nasal sprays, and ivermectin. I'd be happy to do so over a beer, but I don't see a need to do so now since your mind seems to be made up. We should probably just discuss masters running and training instead.

Fisky; you have the time to be proactive about your health because you don’t work. Many Americans don’t have that luxury.

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

They are not valid. "Just one more trial" is not a valid critique. Basic pharmacology says that if you are contending that your drug works with a huge effect, you'd expect to see some signal even at suboptimal dosing or time frames. There is no signal. Nobody believes if you dosed 2 days long you'd magically see a big signal against COVID – especially when you have to go up against the extremely high efficacy of the vaccines.

And you quite literally promoted ivermectin the in the previous post, but I appreciate the backtracking. The small display of intellectual honesty is nice to see.

Nope, I didn’t. It’s amazing my MD, who wanted me to get vaccinated but respected my choice not to, a guy who did his residency at an Ivy League affiliated hospital, told me to at least start taking up to 10,000 IUs vitamin D everyday, but Harambro is telling everyone people won’t benefit unless they have a true deficiency. Hmmm, who should we listen to? Even Lord Fauci eventually conceded he was taking it.

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

They are not valid. "Just one more trial" is not a valid critique. Basic pharmacology says that if you are contending that your drug works with a huge effect, you'd expect to see some signal even at suboptimal dosing or time frames. There is no signal. Nobody believes if you dosed 2 days long you'd magically see a big signal against COVID – especially when you have to go up against the extremely high efficacy of the vaccines.

And you quite literally promoted ivermectin the in the previous post, but I appreciate the backtracking. The small display of intellectual honesty is nice to see.

Nope, I didn’t. It’s amazing my MD, who wanted me to get vaccinated but respected my choice not to, a guy who did his residency at an Ivy League affiliated hospital, told me to at least start taking up to 10,000 IUs vitamin D everyday, but Harambro is telling everyone people won’t benefit unless they have a true deficiency. Hmmm, who should we listen to? Even Lord Fauci eventually conceded he was taking it.

Rick Cheney wrote:

fisky wrote:

I'm retired. I remembered the name Project Veritas, but I had to look it up to remind myself what they did. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any affiliation or financial interest in Project Veritas, any anti-vaxx organization, or any pro-vaxx organization. Frankly, some anti-vaxxers are nutjobs.

I'm reasonably well known in masters track and I'm the current national champion in the 400 meters in my age group. If you want to know who I am, cut and paste fisky's sig line into google. My name pops up. Fisky, by the way, is the name of our beloved dog who is now over the rainbow bridge.

My passion in finding alternative approaches to covid stems from my strong belief that everyone should take personal responsibility for their own health AND make good health a top priority in their lives.

Over the years, I've developed a structured philosophy on personal health issues that revolves around a central theme of being proactive about health. That same philosophy also guides my personal health decisions and as a result, the steps I've taken to prevent and/or treat COVID. Part of that philosophy is when traditional medicine cannot resolve an issue, you should proactively research alternative approaches and when they meet your risk/reward criteria, you should try them.

I can defend my position on vitamin D, nasal sprays, and ivermectin. I'd be happy to do so over a beer, but I don't see a need to do so now since your mind seems to be made up. We should probably just discuss masters running and training instead.

Fisky; you have the time to be proactive about your health because you don’t work. Many Americans don’t have that luxury.

fisky wrote:

I have zero training in infectious diseases, but WAAAY back in in 2020 when we had no effective treatments for COVID, even a novice like me could find reports that vitamin D would very likely increase your chances of survival.

On this board (different thread) on 23 March 2020, I wrote this.

I think we'll see a 2nd wave of this soon. My only hope is that Fauci et al will get their collective heads out of their behinds and recommend vitamin D, supplements, diet, and exercise as therapeutics. More and more research is emerging that vitamin D deficiency is a huge factor in the severity of this virus. Instead, they're touting remdesivir, which is barely statistically significant benefits and only AFTER hospitalization. People with optimal vitamin D levels aren't even being hospitalized.
tl;dr
Get outside in the sunshine. Exercise. Take vitamin D3. Thank me later.

On 6 May 2020, I wrote this

evidence continues to mount that the prevalence and severity of Covid 19 cases are strongly correlated to vitamin D deficiency... a deficiency that is easily correctable with a vitamin D3 supplement and/or a few minutes of sunlight every day. Please spread the word on this on Facebook and other forums. This information needs to get out to the general public.

On 6 May 2020, I wrote this on another thread.

Meanwhile, not making the news cycle at all, multiple studies have shown a clear link between vitamin D deficiency and the prevalence/severity of Covid 19. Up to 98% of deaths and 87% of hospitalized patients show severe vitamin D deficiency. It's common among Americans (40%), blacks (80%), the obese, and the elderly. Each of these cohorts have been hit harder than the global population. (The exact percentages are from memory, but if I'm wrong, they're in the link below.)
Vitamin D3 is safe in normal supplement doses (5,000 IU) and very inexpensive. It's borderline criminal that Fauci and the WHO aren't widely disseminating this information. Fauci is more concerned about his legacy than saving lives. The WHO is saying whatever China wants it to say.

In Dec 2022, John Hopkins University released a study that looked at 600,000 veterans. They concluded that mortality could have been reduced by 33% with vitamin D supplementation. (With 1.2 million deaths so far in the US, that's roughly 400,000 fewer deaths. Four. Hundred. Thousand. Fewer. Deaths.) Here's the study.

Link:www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-240...