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6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:24am EDT

re: pipping dolemyte

Such a brilliant negotiator. The art of the deal

Yesterday, China issued Retaliatory Tariffs of 34%, on top of their already record setting Tariffs, Non-Monetary Tariffs, Illegal Subsidization of companies, and massive long term Currency Manipulation, despite my warning that any country that Retaliates against the U.S. by issuing additional Tariffs, above and beyond their already existing long term Tariff abuse of our Nation, will be immediately met with new and substantially higher Tariffs, over and above those initially set. Therefore, if China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8th, 2025, the United States will impose ADDITIONAL Tariffs on China of 50%, effective April 9th. Additionally, all talks with China concerning their requested meetings with us will be terminated! Negotiations with other countries, which have also requested meetings, will begin taking place immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:24am EDT

re: LateNightEddy

LateNightEddy wrote:
agip wrote:
the tariffs are absolutely the end goal.
we have to believe every word trump says on big goals like this. He says tariffs are the goal, and they are.
Although Rs get all twisted on whether this is all a play for free trade or something else.
when you do a 180 on your position in 10 years it gets very confusing. They were free traders until trump became president, now they are full on protectionist mercantilists. Their minds are spinning so fast they argue the Dem position sometimes.
If he says they're just a negotiating tactic from the get go why would anyone negotiate?
His position is the exact same it's been since he was on Oprah's couch.
The 180 here is coming from the left. If Bernie Sanders was doing the exact same thing you'd be here singing his praises.

Did Bernie propose nonsense tariffs across the board.

Trumpers inability to critically think is ridiculous. “Omg Dems proposed some targeted tariffs at times therefore trumps tariffs on everything using faulty math is great!!!!”

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:25am EDT

re: trump2028!

trump2028! wrote:
Nasdaq up 0.002% at this moment (32 cents). At least it's not down

What about Bob - Baby steps.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:25am EDT

re: LateNightEddy

LateNightEddy wrote:
agip wrote:
the tariffs are absolutely the end goal.
we have to believe every word trump says on big goals like this. He says tariffs are the goal, and they are.
Although Rs get all twisted on whether this is all a play for free trade or something else.
when you do a 180 on your position in 10 years it gets very confusing. They were free traders until trump became president, now they are full on protectionist mercantilists. Their minds are spinning so fast they argue the Dem position sometimes.
If he says they're just a negotiating tactic from the get go why would anyone negotiate?
His position is the exact same it's been since he was on Oprah's couch.
The 180 here is coming from the left. If Bernie Sanders was doing the exact same thing you'd be here singing his praises.

if his position has been the same, then the tariffs are staying on until the trade balance with that country goes to zero.

Is that what you want?

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:26am EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
so trumpies gary, adult, others...
are you free traders or are you protectionists? Do you think fair trade is possible if there's a trade deficit?
is your goal to use the tariffs for negotiating lower global tariffs or do you like the idea of using them to protect the US from all those foreign nasties?
How do you feel about using them to replace the income tax?
Have any ideas yourselves or are you just putting your beliefs in the hands of the felon con man who enriched himself while bankrupting a casino? Just opening wide?

Fair trade doesn't mean no deficits.

Trade isn't free if one side is taking advantage of the other.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:29am EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
so trumpies gary, adult, others...
are you free traders or are you protectionists? Do you think fair trade is possible if there's a trade deficit?
is your goal to use the tariffs for negotiating lower global tariffs or do you like the idea of using them to protect the US from all those foreign nasties?
How do you feel about using them to replace the income tax?
Have any ideas yourselves or are you just putting your beliefs in the hands of the felon con man who enriched himself while bankrupting a casino? Just opening wide?

America use to be very wealthy with tariffs on foreign countries. Then in 1913, they established the income tax. The entire globe has been ripping us off ever since.

The trade deficit must be reversed. I asked you many times Baghdad, what is your solution to reverse the trade deficit. Since you hate Trump's plan, what's yours????

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:33am EDT

re: Cu.ckz to be you

Cu.ckz to be you wrote:
LateNightEddy wrote:
If he says they're just a negotiating tactic from the get go why would anyone negotiate?
His position is the exact same it's been since he was on Oprah's couch.
The 180 here is coming from the left. If Bernie Sanders was doing the exact same thing you'd be here singing his praises.
Did Bernie propose nonsense tariffs across the board.
Trumpers inability to critically think is ridiculous. “Omg Dems proposed some targeted tariffs at times therefore trumps tariffs on everything using faulty math is great!!!!”

Does it trouble you even a little bit that you have absolutely no idea what Sanders said about tariffs as you make this comment?

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6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:34am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
local lib wrote:
You celebrated Vietnam offering to lower their tariffs to 0%, but you can’t even articulate how that would be a good thing? Really, guy? Can’t find a tweet to explain the economics?
Why are you unable to exllajn why it’s good?
One country alone doesn't move the needle. However, 50 more countries will.

It was a country you listed. Taiwan was another. When it gets to 50 of these what is that needle movement doing?

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:36am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
America use to be very wealthy with tariffs on foreign countries. Then in 1913, they established the income tax. The entire globe has been ripping us off ever since.
The trade deficit must be reversed. I asked you many times Baghdad, what is your solution to reverse the trade deficit. Since you hate Trump's plan, what's yours????

I hadn’t known that for over a century we were a bunch of swindled rubes freshly fallen from the turnip truck.

What is the longstanding justification economists have for a country like the US needing to “reverse the trade deficit”? I’ll be happy with whatever authoritative sources you cite from leading economists prior to last November, but ones from between Reagan’s last term and Trump’s first term would be most helpful.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:37am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
The trade deficit must be reversed.

How is this going to reverse our trade deficit with Cambodia?

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:41am EDT

re: DOGE Rep (47)

pic.twitter.com/UIgitUucf7
— Alex Tabarrok (@ATabarrok) April 7, 2025

Tweet:x.com/atabarrok/status/190903597148550...

A lot of people here like to act as though the discussion is always just a battle of fringe Libs, an anti-Trump-biased MSM, and a number of other fools deluded by Leftist groupthink lined up against Republicans.

Tabarrok, the guy tweeting this, is a professor of economics at George Mason. Any idea about the political and ideological (liberal/conservative) leanings of GMU generally and its economics department specifically?

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:47am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
agip wrote:
so trumpies gary, adult, others...
are you free traders or are you protectionists? Do you think fair trade is possible if there's a trade deficit?
is your goal to use the tariffs for negotiating lower global tariffs or do you like the idea of using them to protect the US from all those foreign nasties?
How do you feel about using them to replace the income tax?
Have any ideas yourselves or are you just putting your beliefs in the hands of the felon con man who enriched himself while bankrupting a casino? Just opening wide?
America use to be very wealthy with tariffs on foreign countries. Then in 1913, they established the income tax. The entire globe has been ripping us off ever since.
The trade deficit must be reversed. I asked you many times Baghdad, what is your solution to reverse the trade deficit. Since you hate Trump's plan, what's yours????

this nation has become ever richer carrying a trade deficit. We absolutely dominate the global economy. Whatever we have been doing has been benefitting this nation tremendously. I recommend we do not get rid of the trade deficit.

A trade deficit merely means our economy produces such wealth that you and I can buy the products we want from foreign nations. It doesn't mean the nation is being being ripped off. The contrary: it means we are so wealthy that we can have poorer people make stuff for us rich people.

This post was edited 1 minute after it was posted.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:47am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

What would it take for you idiots to understand that Trade Deficits are not Tariffs. Good grief are you guys that friggin stupid.

America produces 4 times the amount of goods per capita compared to world averages and consumes 6 times the amount per capita, i.e. 4% of world population with 60% the world's GDP. You greedy fcukers just cannot burn enough fuel or eat enough and simply cannot manufacture what you consume without buying from other countries. No one forces you to buy from them. It is impossible for you to have trade surpluses or even zero surplus/deficit without consuming less.

Trump wants you to believe that "(Insert country) is unfair" and "are ripping us off", because you have to buy from them in order to exist, and is willing to create a global trade war and punish you, the consumer, each one of you MAGA lot to prove his point..which is what exactly..that he doesn't understand economics

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:47am EDT

re: LateNightEddy

Does it bother you that Bernie was discussing tariffs against china in this clip?

Where has Bernie advocated blanket tariffs?

Bro, getting your “zingers” from the right wing internet is always a recipe for failure

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:49am EDT

re: LateNightEddy

LateNightEddy wrote:
agip wrote:
so trumpies gary, adult, others...
are you free traders or are you protectionists? Do you think fair trade is possible if there's a trade deficit?
is your goal to use the tariffs for negotiating lower global tariffs or do you like the idea of using them to protect the US from all those foreign nasties?
How do you feel about using them to replace the income tax?
Have any ideas yourselves or are you just putting your beliefs in the hands of the felon con man who enriched himself while bankrupting a casino? Just opening wide?
Fair trade doesn't mean no deficits.
Trade isn't free if one side is taking advantage of the other.

Correct!

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:52am EDT

re: How would that be?

How would that be? wrote:
LateNightEddy wrote:
Well duh.... I'll be buying. I'm waiting to see how low it's going to go so I can maximize my profit as the morons maximize their losses.
Good enough. When you’ve determined how low it will go, can you please show all the idiots on here how stupid they are and how smart you are by coming here in real time and posting, “We’re at or near the bottom now. Time for the markets to turn back up. I’m putting cash back in the markets now. Watch and learn while I maximize profits!”

We used to hate adolt, but NOW that we know that he can tell us exactly where the bottom is....awesome!

THEN we'll go back to hating him.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:52am EDT

re: LateNightEddy

LateNightEddy wrote:
agip wrote:
so trumpies gary, adult, others...
are you free traders or are you protectionists? Do you think fair trade is possible if there's a trade deficit?
is your goal to use the tariffs for negotiating lower global tariffs or do you like the idea of using them to protect the US from all those foreign nasties?
How do you feel about using them to replace the income tax?
Have any ideas yourselves or are you just putting your beliefs in the hands of the felon con man who enriched himself while bankrupting a casino? Just opening wide?
Fair trade doesn't mean no deficits.
Trade isn't free if one side is taking advantage of the other.

nobody is taking advantage of the USA in a way that matters. We have been the outstanding star of the global economy - getting ever larger as a proportion of the global economy and global stock market.
We won. We are the winners. Our pre-trump2 policies worked.

trump is an idiot to say we are the victims.

(that said, in roughly 2000-2012 we should have had tariffs to ease the china shock. And biden was correct to use government might to build chip industry here, to avoid leaning on vulnerable taiwan)

This post was edited 28 seconds after it was posted.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:52am EDT

re: How would that be?

How would that be? wrote:
I hadn’t known that for over a century we were a bunch of swindled rubes freshly fallen from the turnip truck.
What is the longstanding justification economists have for a country like the US needing to “reverse the trade deficit”? I’ll be happy with whatever authoritative sources you cite from leading economists prior to last November, but ones from between Reagan’s last term and Trump’s first term would be most helpful.

You have to give Republicans and Trump credit where credit is due. They are effective at creating problems that aren’t really problems for citizens and make a case that only they can solve these problems that they created.

Trade deficits are a version of that.

Notice how the narrative has changed to “Oh yeah, what is your solution for fixing trade imbalances”?

Idiots. It was working just fine before Trump took over. Selective and strategic tariffs are good. We don’t need to have balanced trade with ever country on the planet.

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:53am EDT

re: Cu.ckz to be you

Cu.ckz to be you wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Not so fast, Panican.
The indices are all green this morning.
When will you idiots learn not to post until the trading day is over .

I do NOT have to wait until the end of the trading to know that the numbers look EXACTLY like WINNING !!!!

6 months ago 04/07/2025 11:55am EDT

re: I am Sam

I am Sam wrote:
What would it take for you idiots to understand that Trade Deficits are not Tariffs. Good grief are you guys that friggin stupid.
America produces 4 times the amount of goods per capita compared to world averages and consumes 6 times the amount per capita, i.e. 4% of world population with 60% the world's GDP. You greedy fcukers just cannot burn enough fuel or eat enough and simply cannot manufacture what you consume without buying from other countries. No one forces you to buy from them. It is impossible for you to have trade surpluses or even zero surplus/deficit without consuming less.
Trump wants you to believe that "(Insert country) is unfair" and "are ripping us off", because you have to buy from them in order to exist, and is willing to create a global trade war and punish you, the consumer, each one of you MAGA lot to prove his point..which is what exactly..that he doesn't understand economics

THIS ^^^^

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