Caster Semenya has just destroyed her lifetime PB, without any rabbits. 1:54.25!!

In fact if gays and intersexed guys completely take over women's sports then that will be even better for men like me. Because then we can watch two of every men's events, and not need to watch women at all. I could watch two of every men's 100 meter events, and so on. I don't really care for women at all. I only like men.

the counter wrote:

ex-runner intersexed wrote:Clearly the real issue with some of you is that you are simply bigots. If a man chooses to call himself a woman and wear masculine clothing, that does not make her a man or intersex.

Totally agreed. It's not the masculine clothing that makes the man a man. It's the fact that he's a man that makes him a man.

Or, put another way - "It's not the jacket and slacks that makes the man. It's the testes." Put that quote on your South African track team coffee mug.

I was talking about Britney Reese. After I posted pictures of her wearing masculine clothing apparently some letsrun posters have reduced she has high testosterone. Ridiculous.

Dude is dressed like a dude, married to a woman, got 1:49 in the tank. Has more testosterone than most average men. If female runners stand idly by and do nothing about it, they deserve this humiliation. I personally wanna see that 1:49, that's entertainment.

Artojas wrote:

If female runners stand idly by and do nothing about it, they deserve this humiliation. I personally wanna see that 1:49, that's entertainment.

Why don't YOU do something about it, and what does that say about you.

It's idiots like you - who have no respect for women - who cause this issue to perpetuate.

It is the men in control of the governing bodies, who have allowed this to happen.

Perhaps we need to have a separate governing body for women, consisting only of real women.

Men are not getting the job done. They are making it worse.

And something needs to be done to verify who are, and who are not the real women.

pronoun indifferent wrote:

In fact if gays and intersexed guys completely take over women's sports then that will be even better for men like me. Because then we can watch two of every men's events, and not need to watch women at all. I could watch two of every men's 100 meter events, and so on. I don't really care for women at all. I only like men.

Nice try, homophobe. Just tell your parents already. I like sports, it's not about sex, just watching a sport played well by the best, which is men. When idiots like you watch a sport for the sexual attractiveness of the women you just lend credence to the argument that men are against Semenya simply because she doesn't fit their male dominated bias of what a "real" woman should look like. it just makes women sport more of a joke.

Women are awesome - I totally love women - I'm a guy - when I watch a women's only race I want to see women only-the real women athletes at the top are totally awesome - but other sports also - Mia Hamm, Jenny Finch (yes they have retired ) & others , but by the same token, the top male athletes are also very inspiring - all we're saying is in Women's only events, let's just have women only, is that asking too much?

Artojas wrote:

Dude is dressed like a dude, married to a woman, got 1:49 in the tank. Has more testosterone than most average men. If female runners stand idly by and do nothing about it, they deserve this humiliation. I personally wanna see that 1:49, that's entertainment.

I'm interested, you watch a runner perform a 1:54 by going 56-58 and you think they can run 1:49?

I hope you aren't a coach.

i see you're in the closet wrote:

Nice try, homophobe. Just tell your parents already. I like sports, it's not about sex, just watching a sport played well by the best, which is men. When idiots like you watch a sport for the sexual attractiveness of the women you just lend credence to the argument that men are against Semenya simply because she doesn't fit their male dominated bias of what a "real" woman should look like. it just makes women sport more of a joke.

You called someone a homophobe, since the reason you don't like women's sports is because you're a homosexual. In addition to not caring about women, you apparently hate them.

Wow. I don't know what to say to someone like you.

We certainly don't have much in common, and I have zero interest in getting to know you.

Yet I don't want us to be enemies. And I'm not trying to stop you from having your own events.

You're totally wrong though in trying to destroy women's events. They fully deserve to have what they've fought for so long to have and achieve, and they deserve to not have it destroyed.

Why not just focus on having your own events and contests, perhaps for gays and intersexed athletes. And how about leaving the women's events for the women, instead of trying to invade them and take them over. You are being evil in what you are doing, and evil begets evil. It is not a good way to go.

Karl Hungus wrote:

So Caster had a PR and was nearly a second slower than the WR. For all the alleged talk about Caster's biological "advantage" for running and additional training/science behind it, why can't she beat a 35 year old WR?

Because "she" is not seriously trying to.

* Doesn't run all-out, never is the least bit winded after races.

* Weights at least 180 lbs, way too heavy for someone who'd be trying to optimize their 800m time.

No one cares what’s one random middle aged man thinks about womens’s sports though. Most of the population just see yet another dude with a god complex and inability to find a hot wife (and even the non hit wife is bored with him) who thinks he should get olumypmicnedaks because he once came within 15s of the womens800m slowest faster loser time in the Olympic heats and despite the fact hes not designed for oregnamcy as well as movement, thinks it’s not fair. Boo boo. Tell your mommy. No one else cares. Except a few other sad freaks on here.

Sports Illustrated should put her in the body issue. Full frontal. Let the world decide

0/10 ?

Well said.

Real women should be deciding these things, not old washed up men who don't care about women.

The women's events are for women, not men.

Ktdnkfxxnbg wrote:

No one cares what’s one random middle aged man thinks about womens’s sports though..

1. Learn to spot an obvious troll post

2. Who watches sports? Who do you advertise to? Middle aged white dudes in the US are a huge target audience for advertisers.

Semenya is all woman and you are just jealous.

Advertising dollars wrote:

Semenya is all woman and you are just jealous.

Jealous of an intersexed man? Not hardly.

Only if you're a gay or intersexed man who loves other men and hates real women.

Anyway, now we see who we're dealing with here.

jamin wrote:

Karl Hungus wrote:

So Caster had a PR and was nearly a second slower than the WR. For all the alleged talk about Caster's biological "advantage" for running and additional training/science behind it, why can't she beat a 35 year old WR?

Because "she" is not seriously trying to.

* Doesn't run all-out, never is the least bit winded after races.

* Weights at least 180 lbs, way too heavy for someone who'd be trying to optimize their 800m time.

This is classic LR stuff. Winner isn't out of puff but everyone else is => winner obviously doping/cheating.

In fact the winner very rarely looks knackered but the others trying to chase 'em down do.

Notable exception being Laura Muir who seems to be oddly winded and has to lie down afterwards.

Lame argument wrote:

jamin wrote:

Because "she" is not seriously trying to.

* Doesn't run all-out, never is the least bit winded after races.

* Weights at least 180 lbs, way too heavy for someone who'd be trying to optimize their 800m time.

This is classic LR stuff. Winner isn't out of puff but everyone else is => winner obviously doping/cheating.

In fact the winner very rarely looks knackered but the others trying to chase 'em down do.

Notable exception being Laura Muir who seems to be oddly winded and has to lie down afterwards.

Oddly winded? You mean fatigued? Like most humans after a maximal effort. Even Bolt would be visibly sweating and breathing heavily trying to catch his breath.

It's interesting, Dibaba has a bigger advantage over he competitors than Semenya has demonstrated thus far.

3:50.0 to 3:55.2 for Muir is much bigger than 1:54.25 compared to 1:55.6 for Ajee Wilson last year.

I don't buy the feelings of letsrun posters claiming Semenya could run 1:49 and such, that's preposterous. She has not shown 1:49 ability in the slightest.

However I'll accept 1:53 or under the 1:53.3 WR, in which case the difference between Semenya and the rest would be about the same as between Dibaba and the rest.

I'll add to that that Almaz Ayana has demonstrated about the same advantage as Semenya in the 10k. It was more until Semenya's recent run.

Rudisha also demonstrated a similar advantage.

Latiskene has a much bigger advantage than Semenya and a longer win streak.

Bolt had a bigger advantage in the 100 and 200.

I'm not saying that Semenya doesn't have an unfair advantage, but in terms of actual numbers/data it's difficult to tell her apart from other athletes that dominate in their events. What does set her apart is her physical appearance.