It's my understanding that tinman does not charge for his advice...
It's my understanding that tinman does not charge for his advice...
OK, so I guess that your main thesis at the heart of this thread is that you don't like Tinman. Well, I don't much care for his personality, and maybe, as you say, anyone could read Daniels and offer similar advice. But I think, from what I've seen, he's more knowledgeable than most (certainly not all) posters here, at least as far as exercise physiology is concerned, and he's shared plenty of info and ideas. He can be a bit petulant (or maybe "bitchy" is a better word), and I don't think he understands everything, and I suppose it's possible he takes credit for others' ideas (I don't know that this is true), but he has been pretty generous with his contributions. I say leave the guy alone.
Yes for full coaching services he does charge for each month. He has approximately 30-40 paying clients. Your understanding is faulty based on the advice he might comment online about.
Pete,I would have left the guy alone until he started attacking my favorite coach. I agree that when it comes to explaining the science behind what is in "Daniels Running Formula" he does a good job. But so what that doesn't make him this great coach that people seem to think.
All BS aside, all personal motives aside, who thinks/knows tinman is or can be a good coach? Or can anyone being coached by him speak.
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All BS aside, all personal motives aside, who thinks/knows tinman is or can be a good coach? Or can anyone being coached by him speak.
I think he knows his stuff.
Me too but I just want to hear from runners or anyone who knows him personally.
I am not arguing that he couldn't be good coach. We just don't have anything to say that he is a great coach. He hasn't coached anyone to a really fast time or come up with some new profound way of training. All he done has give some people that have no clue or never trained before an idea about how to train. That idea being the same as Jack Daniels. He doesn't ever recognize that any other way is sound approach nor does he come off as a charismatic person that can motivate men to move mountains.
It's tough to plagiarize what doesn't exist.
Tinman has no website, no book, and no posts before about 2003. JK has been posting since 2001 and stopped posting before Tinman started.
I sense a chronological inconsistency here.
Antonio, your English is very good. I cannot speak a word of Portuguese, but you speak English well enough to post complex running discussions on a forum.
Also, JK did not post his e-mail. How could you expect his reply when he never gave an e-mail address?
Does Kellogg need to prove that he doesn't plagiarize?
I've learned more from Tinman than I ever have from JK, and I've read quite a bit of material. Period. Although throwing accusations around is a bit childish because no one is really too original by now, Tinman does KNOW his facts. He is very good at being accurate and never claims things that aren't his own.
However I don't respect the rant he did on JK.
Tinman is Kellogg is Hadd.
Don't you guys see the bitter irony here? Tinman started this crap because he is Kellogg. All this just happens to come out at the same time Kevin Beck's book is coming out that just happens to have a chapter written by Kellogg. 10 pages thus far and not one comment from Tinman or Kellogg or either or both...that means it's working.
Kellogg isn't Tinman isn't Hadd.
Tinman is Kellogg. You've all been hadd. Move on. End of thread.
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Don't you guys see the bitter irony here? Tinman started this crap because he is Kellogg. All this just happens to come out at the same time Kevin Beck's book is coming out that just happens to have a chapter written by Kellogg. 10 pages thus far and not one comment from Tinman or Kellogg or either or both...that means it's working.
Damn. How come I didn't put this together myself? After all, never before have mutliple coaches been shredded on this site on the very same day. The hotness and belittle-the-fat-girl-with-cankles threads are the clinchers. Zounds! it's not like people have slapped around Tinman *or* JK before, ever. Not once has anyone found a reason to call JK unoriginal, one-dimensional, and so on, or said that wejo is his only success story. So in reality they must be the same guy, because people rarely get trashed on letsrun, meaning that JK and Tinman are *one and the same*. The other bitch slap threads are red herrings put in place by the moderators, but you saw through it all!
Also, nice, creative use of "bitter irony." I have no idea what the hell is ironic about any of this, but the word "irony" always sounds good when cooking up a doozy. Wheels within wheels, friends.
You are all like housewives/househusbands who got nothing else to do but gossip. Go out and run, go to the gym, water the plants,…
i mean ...BORED housewives/househusbands...
tinman = soylent green = people
How can we confirm that JK was Hadd