Pete Carroll is apparently a 9/11 truther

abandon hope wrote:

I don't know enough

You have been pwned so many times and you still can't shut up.

lol

pwn wrote:

abandon hope wrote:

I don't know enough

You have been pwned so many times and you still can't shut up.

lol

funny, I don't feel pwned

me: science and facts

troofers: silly spy movie plots

"all girder hits are equal"...

Do you not see that entire sections of closer-proximity buildings are missing? Do you not see that these buildings were COMPLETELY gutted by fire, and they were STILL standing?

Do you not understand that there is an entire back section of building 7 that was not touched at all by debris or fire?

There is video of a news crew INSIDE building 7, and guess what?... there was relatively minor damage. Yes, there were fires... no, it is not hot enough to take down a modern structure. The Windsor Tower is proof of that. One corner of damage does not take out ALL vertical support.

At least you admit to the free-fall issue, but I will say that I personally know a handful of professional engineers, and they find the structure's path of fall very suspect.

You seriously are doing a very bad job in your justifying your denial.

and who in the fuq said anything about "spy movie plots"?

You are completely making this up to justify your logic incompetence.

Tell us about the Reichstag. How's that for "spy movie plots"?

Same 'troofers' now have some new conspiracies to glom onto....

I now present:

http://wtvr.com/2014/01/30/geo-engineered-snow-isnt-real/

Tadaaa..

start a new thread, as.hole

http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wtc7wtc61.jpg

These have all been noted previously in this thread, but you have a very short memory that seems to coincide with your denial... quite ironic.

This photo is interesting. WTC building #7 is completely decimated (to the degree of other WTC buildings) while the two buildings to either side are relatively untouched.

and the buildings that were literally next to tower 1 and 2 are still standing after being hit by debris and completely engulfed in fire.

krispy kremlin wrote:

http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wtc7wtc61.jpg

These have all been noted previously in this thread, but you have a very short memory that seems to coincide with your denial... quite ironic.

This photo is interesting. WTC building #7 is completely decimated (to the degree of other WTC buildings) while the two buildings to either side are relatively untouched.

krispy kremlin wrote:

http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wtc7wtc61.jpg

These have all been noted previously in this thread, but you have a very short memory that seems to coincide with your denial... quite ironic.

This photo is interesting. WTC building #7 is completely decimated (to the degree of other WTC buildings) while the two buildings to either side are relatively untouched.

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The adjacent Verizon Building, an art deco building constructed in 1926, had extensive damage to its east facade from the collapse of 7 World Trade Center, though it was able to be restored at a cost of US$1.4 billion.

$1.4 billion = relatively untouched.....

This has all been debunked! Other buildings went down. Marriott WTC and a Greek Orthodox church. WTC 6 was also severely damaged and had to be demolished (no cover up there - was it insured? Gasp!) to name a few. Even still, truthers can't even agree amongst themselves regarding the massive plot - they're all over the place. 1000s of people across multiple countries would of had to have been involved and yet not one person has come forward and said "I was involved and this is what happened." All this to justify war with Iraq!? Huh!?

not sure what the point is - this wasn't a nuclear blast - it was two 100 story buildings collapsing in an urban core.

some buildings collapsed (WTC tower 1, tower 2, 7), some partially collapsed (WTC 5) some didn't (WTC 6)

this proves what exactly? Clearly some buildings got hit worse than others, some were built in different ways...some just got lucky.

you should question yourself when you try to spin all this chaos into a grand theory.

Linsanity wrote:

krispy kremlin wrote:

This photo is interesting. WTC building #7 is completely decimated (to the degree of other WTC buildings) while the two buildings to either side are relatively untouched.

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The adjacent Verizon Building, an art deco building constructed in 1926, had extensive damage to its east facade from the collapse of 7 World Trade Center, though it was able to be restored at a cost of US$1.4 billion.

$1.4 billion = relatively untouched.....

complete collapse > x10 extensive damage

so I'll repeat, based on the picture which shows decimated buildings: relatively untouched.

and to the poster who said something about all this to start a war with Iraq... we're talking about a +10year war (against a Middle East nation) that has cost US tax payers between $4 and 6 trillion dollars (including Afghanistan) with countless lives lost and a distinctly altered global future (geopolitics, warfare technology, surveillance). If there are indeed some "puppet-masters" pulling the strings, I'd say they "put into motion" a fairly significant global shift.

Again, I am not a "truther", I'm just skeptical of the "sheep". Some of the "sheep" arguments are just as lazy/accepting as the "truther" arguments. Something seems a bit off about this whole thing and there's no reason why questions shouldn't be asked and answers be provided.

abandon hope wrote:

ok, so we've already blamed a jew - now I'm waiting for someone to call us 'sheeple'

anyone care to chip in so we can run the table early?

ok, it took 10 pages, but the hurler of the sheeple insult has arrived. Congratulations, you are the snarkiest guy here. You win. Yay.

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Are you really this dense...yes!

You are saying that to rebuild the Verizon building would be $14 billion, by your own math....errr actually more since you used a > sign, no?

My friend the cost for the new WTC 1 is only $3.8 billion (ha, only!).

So in conclusion, the Verizon building that was rehabbed for $1.4 billion would not cost $14 billion to rebuild, since the largest tower being rebuilt (WTC 1) costs $3.8 billion.

Got it?

rtfgrtf wrote:

This has all been debunked! Other buildings went down. Marriott WTC and a Greek Orthodox church. WTC 6 was also severely damaged and had to be demolished (no cover up there - was it insured? Gasp!) to name a few. Even still, truthers can't even agree amongst themselves regarding the massive plot - they're all over the place. 1000s of people across multiple countries would of had to have been involved and yet not one person has come forward and said "I was involved and this is what happened." All this to justify war with Iraq!? Huh!?

Good summation! As I say the the answer is in PLAIN SITE!

9/11 is about the "unveiling of Isis" (the Statue of Liberty is Isis). In other words it was an OCCULT RITUAL signaling the return of Isis the Godess of creation. We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan because they do not respect woman who are a reflection of Isis. Why didn't someone involved say this? Would you believe them?

How could we ever believe that the government was not looking out for our well being? They have never acted to harm american citizens.....What? They have? They have had large programs that harmed many US citizens and no one came out and said anything?

http://mentalfloss.com/article/33497/8-government-conspiracy-theories-and-how-they-could-be-right

Alex Jones of Prison Planet sees every single catastrophic event as a false flag operation committed by US government agents: Boston Marathon bombing, Aurora movie theatre, 9/11, Sandy Hook, on and on and on. There is no evidence the the contrary that will convince him otherwise. It is all confirmation bias. This pretty much holds for all the truthers.

A good debunking site:

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

This is from a truther site about what actually hit the Pentagon. Even it concludes it was a Boeing 757.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/

Carroll is several kinds of idiot. I hope Seattle gets creamed.

Here ya go abandon. This explains it quicker and more concise than you.

youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

How hard is it for you to look at this picture...

http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wtc7wtc61.jpg

and not see that buildings in a closer-proximity stayed standing even though they were completely engulfed in flames, and obviously sustained some very heavy hits from debris?

I just don't understand the adamant denial. I get that a grand conspiracy for whatever reason (war) sounds like too much... But seriously, a building goes down, straight down in free-fall speed, all vertical support giving way at the same time. And to add to it, the owner of the building gives a beat around the bush story of why he wasn't there, unlike every other day of the year.

It is a very strange series of events that has many people that are professionals in their field asking questions and disagreeing with the "official" report.

And, to add to your witness comment... are you trying to say that throughout history people have not been killed in their attempts to bring light to situations?