Some loon just shot a Congresswoman

[quote]sanity wrote:On Youtube the shooter lists among his favorite books the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

That does not mean that the passion of Obama supporters should be blamed for this shooting./quote]

Also, just for the record, one can be a passionate Obama supporter without being a Marxist or an Anti-Semite. Sheesh.

In fact, most of the Marxists I know went Green Party in the last election. Obama was too much of a pragmatist/moderate for them.

Top Cat wrote:

How many Republican congress people and judges got shot and killed if you can tell me please mister?

The judge that was killed today was recommended by McCain and appointed by Bush. Republican, I'd say?

I thought there was a good chance the judge was appointed by the GOP and didn't mean to infer that he wasn't. If you go back to the original series of statements I was responding to How many had been shot between 2004-08 because that was the time period Indestructible was referring to.

Sorry if I took it out of context...

sanity wrote:

On Youtube the shooter lists among his favorite books the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

and this one from Ayn Rand

Guy is all over the place.

The police are looking for a potential accomplice in the shooting. He didn't act alone.

Aghast wrote:

The police are looking for a potential accomplice in the shooting. He didn't act alone.

Probably the same people (Bush) who destroyed the World Trade Center.

Update from Tucson wrote:

Drop the party hack nonsense, kid. He's a screw ball, period. You come off as an idiot by spouting ignorance.

This has nothing to do with "party." It has to do with certain members of the media and government officials, all of whom coincidentally are right wingnuts, who have ratcheted up the rhetoric with their "lock and load" and "pass the ammunition" spew. They all have blood on their hands today.

It doesn't matter if this guy was a nutjob already or not. Their language and incivility were sure to inflame people who were already a little over the edge. I have ZERO respect for the leaders on that side of the aisle or their media apologists. I didn't care for Reagan's policies, but at least the man was a gentleman and statesman.

I feel SO sorry for the parents of the 9-year-old child. ;(

Arete wrote:

I feel SO sorry for the parents of the 9-year-old child. ;(

Me too, as a father of a young daughter. Vigilante justice if it was my kid.

runn wrote:

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Sarah Palin (aside from being stupid). The Beatles influenced Charles Manson. These people are simply insane.

I guess we need people like Palin- explre the extremes and come to a meeting in the middle to do it correctly.

It's Palin's fault just as much as it was J. D. Salinger's fault that Mark David Chapman killed Lennon!

sleeping giant wrote:

Update from Tucson wrote:

Drop the party hack nonsense, kid. He's a screw ball, period. You come off as an idiot by spouting ignorance.

This has nothing to do with "party." It has to do with certain members of the media and government officials, all of whom coincidentally are right wingnuts, who have ratcheted up the rhetoric with their "lock and load" and "pass the ammunition" spew. They all have blood on their hands today.

It doesn't matter if this guy was a nutjob already or not. Their language and incivility were sure to inflame people who were already a little over the edge. I have ZERO respect for the leaders on that side of the aisle or their media apologists. I didn't care for Reagan's policies, but at least the man was a gentleman and statesman.

I agree 100%. Inflammatory, divisive rhetoric instead of civil discourse seems to have become the rule among a lot of these politicians, especially the tea party groups. You have only to look around the world to see the result of intransigent, non-compromise ideologic politics, especially when mixed up with religion. The Iraqi legislature is a case study in what happens when all sides hate each other and no one compromises.

A 9 year old kid was among the dead. Think about it. Even if you don't condone it, did your words and actions help precipitate it? Take a long, hard look in the mirror. That is what all the politicians should be asking themselves.

Palin is obviously not responsible for this—the shooter is—but when she does things like posting a map with crosshairs across the districts of certain members of Congress and uses gun-related language like "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!", it may lead mentally unstable people like today's shooter to believe she's endorsing such actions. I would personally avoid language and imagery like that entirely. It's getting way too close to an actual threat for my taste.

I hope Giffords makes a full recovery. I disagree with her politically on more than one point, but she's far from the worst member of Congress and I wouldn't wish this sort of action on anyone.

Of course, the media will do all they can to blame the Tea Parties. Even the victims father blamed the Tea Parties. Such is the irrational knee jerk emotionalism that fuels the politics of the left.

Police looking for a white male in his 50s. The puppet master?

sleeping giant wrote:

This has nothing to do with "party." It has to do with certain members of the media and government officials, all of whom coincidentally are right wingnuts, who have ratcheted up the rhetoric with their "lock and load" and "pass the ammunition" spew. They all have blood on their hands today.

It doesn't matter if this guy was a nutjob already or not. Their language and incivility were sure to inflame people who were already a little over the edge. I have ZERO respect for the leaders on that side of the aisle or their media apologists. I didn't care for Reagan's policies, but at least the man was a gentleman and statesman.

But at least Olbermann decided to work on a Saturday night to fan the flames....is he "certain members of the media"?

I am a liberal, however, I don't blanket blame "tea partiers" at all. I do blame those *individuals* who use inflammatory rhetoric ("second amendment option") for making light of the possibility of this type of thing happening, regardless of what their political ideology. I would appreciate your showing the same respect and not using such a broad brush with "the left" (e.g., "Such is the irrational knee jerk emotionalism that fuels the politics of the left").

Most of all, I am sad, and tired of these types of senseless killings here and everywhere.

Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wrote:

Sharron Angle is happy

Rush Limbaugh is Happy

John Boehner is Happy

Mitch McConnell is happy

Mitt Romney is happy

Rush and John are "uppercase-happy" while all the rest are "lowercase-happy". What does it mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN...AAAAAGGHGHHLLLLLLAHH!!!!!!!

Loughner is a 2nd Amendment gun toting murdering nut job, Tea Party crazy, who reads Mein Kampf, and wants the U.S. on the Gold standard.

Update from Tucson wrote:

Drop the party hack nonsense, kid. He's a screw ball, period. You come off as an idiot by spouting ignorance.

Actually, the police are looking for another suspect now. That brings up the point that maybe he didn't work alone. He may be a screw ball, but it appears he may have worked with someone. Indicating he might be subject to some kind of group influence. And no, I don't spout ignorance. I just posted what Sarah Palin did in an ad. That's not ignorant that's just stating facts. While not directly responsible, I do think people like her and Glenn Beck use very incendiary language that can inspire nutjobs, especially when its pumped on Fox News and talk radio all day so the message is amplified even more.