NEW Atlantic Region XC *2009* thread

potsdam might also have a chance if they get their guys in peak form

oh and one more thing, for everyone whos on rit's dick, miller and brindak finished 59th and 68th last year, big deal if they went 1-2 in an ecac field of 8 people prove something in cross

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oh and one more thing, for everyone whos on rit's dick, miller and brindak finished 59th and 68th last year, big deal if they went 1-2 in an ecac field of 8 people prove something in cross

They clearly have shown some big improvements. 31:30 for a 10k is equal to much better than ~60th at regionals.

Someone had to say it. So what if they took 1-2 at ECAC's. There is a bunch of teams out there that have runners with the ability to run those exact times, most with runners who can run faster. I'm sick of hearing about RIT because of these two guys along with the 5th year seniors they have coming back as well. RIT will be as much as a threat as Ben Jackson this year.

Umm...those "other" 5th year seniors from RIT happen to be Jared Burdick (sub 15 5k) and Mike Hardbarger (an All-American miler). So yeah I think they have a solid group and should easily be in the mix for a Nationals berth. If you look at the strides that Miller and Brindak have made since the beginning of cross last year I think you would see that their 10k performance was just another step on their path to greatness.

If Hardbarger and Burdick really are 5th year seniors then that could change some things, however hardbarger may be good at the mile but his 5k and 8k pr's are nothing to brag about something around 25:50's and 1520's. decent but nothing amazing, so alot of rit's success will depend on if he can pull it together for the longer distances

And then if Lowe's healthy thats a solid top 5.

Lowe is an average runner at best

Lowe? wrote:

Lowe is an average runner at best

Freshman year-

2007 Indoor 8:43.96 15:13.80

Raise your hand if your sick of the RIT talk

make that two of us

Plattsburgh's 7th runner last fall beat your RIT boys handily at the boilermaker. Nuff said, fredonia will dominate them and prove to be the team that has the shot to upset last years top 5!

Hell yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see Fredonia make a run at slu, NYU and Geneseo, after all Beck learned from Woods. How sweet would it be to see the student beat the teacher! I mean they have Tom Williams and Eddie Novara who are possibly the best 1-2 in the region and a talented 3-7 that improved from xc to track and is going to improve from track to xc. They are going to be the most improved team from 08 to 09 and I would not be surprised to see them be a top 20 team at NCAA's. Tom Williams is going to be a mean runner this fall!

Everyone thinks RIT is so awesome. Not to go crazy for fredonia, but they did beat RIT at their home course last year (I was there). And yes, if they did peak properly they could be very good, but if any team peaks properly then they will do very well.

By the way, Eddie Novaro vs. Seth Yearny would be awesome

Wow sounds like Fredonia is amazing with the top 2 guys in the region-Cortland and Geneseo won\'t stand a chance. I\'m calling it now Fredonia for the SUNYAC and Regional sweep

JESUS!

Yeah lets all not train and just work on peaking. Because whoever peaks properly will most likely win regionals.

People race sick, people race healthy, teams get 5th year seniors, and teams get raw freshmen talent, front runners get hurt, and D1 atheletes go to cortland.... the bottom line is there is more important factors then peaking.

Yes peaking is important and it is occasionally botched but this is a mature year in the region and my best guess would be that most teams have a basic recipe for success at this point. (get the most out of what you have to offer sort of thing)

AND ANOTHER THING... at the ages of 19-24 EVERYONE improves physiologically, summer training matters, yes, but there are athletes that are just better then others given a certain time period for improvement. And for those of you that come on here and make these off tangent claims that Fredonia and Potsdam and Keene State have some magic pixie dust, thats fine, just dont be offeneded when you get called out for your ludicrist claims. Assuming minimal graduation rates, and semi- linear improvements, decent predictions are not that difficult.

That being said, I am not convinced by fredonia in XC.

RIT however does look promising, being a previous member of the division I know they know how to put together a team. I also know they can make the ever so important proper "peak". Lastly, with regards to the P-burg followers, last year wasn't Platsburg barely 5th? Who was six, Ithaca? They too lost very few individuals if I calculated that properly, how do you plan to beat them without BBBJ (big bad ben jackson)

To conclude? who will have the best facial hair come regionals

Last Year Mens Results:

Cortland

NYU

Geneseo

SLU

Platts

TCNJ

Ithaca

alwaysfunnyincentralny wrote:

That being said, I am not convinced by fredonia in XC.

RIT however does look promising, being a previous member of the division I know they know how to put together a team. I also know they can make the ever so important proper "peak". Lastly, with regards to the P-burg followers, last year wasn't Platsburg barely 5th? Who was six, Ithaca? They too lost very few individuals if I calculated that properly, how do you plan to beat them without BBBJ (big bad ben jackson)

To conclude? who will have the best facial hair come regionals

And here's another one that doesn't make sense, while we're at it. Deciding on a team based on their ability to "put together a team," when said team finished 16th last year at regionals and whose only claim to fame is a 1-2 in a weak ECAC 10k, in times that would not be conference leading in any respect, and a couple of possible "super seniors" who have been allegedly busting out solid hundos every week for the past year. I'm not convinced.

Am I saying it will be Fredonia or Plattsburgh? The number 8 or 5 finishers from last year? Not necessarily, but it's much more plausible than the 16th team coming up into the top 5.

alwaysfunnyincentralny wrote:

To conclude? who will have the best facial hair come regionals

Tom Williams.