hey i was just doing some researching around lets run, found this old thread. it doesn't really help much for its title its mostly a bunch of idiots arguing with each other about running philosophy or some crap. ANYWHO For Lydiards anaerobic stage did he actually have his athletes doing anaerobic work such as 6x800 in 2:15 with 3-4 minutes rest, or did he have them doing something else (sorry dont know all the technical names, im only in hs) such as 6x800 in say 2:25 with 1-2 minutes rest?
Shortly before the Olympics, Snell ran 6x800 in 2:10, next day ran 6x400 in 58. It doesn't specify in the log but it would be a good bet he ran equal distance recovery jogs between.
T.L. the stallion wrote:
hey i was just doing some researching around lets run, found this old thread. it doesn't really help much for its title its mostly a bunch of idiots arguing with each other about running philosophy or some crap. ANYWHO For Lydiards anaerobic stage did he actually have his athletes doing anaerobic work such as 6x800 in 2:15 with 3-4 minutes rest, or did he have them doing something else (sorry dont know all the technical names, im only in hs) such as 6x800 in say 2:25 with 1-2 minutes rest?
The term 'anaerobic training' is misused here. Those effort are mostly aerobic.
In those days Lydiard and everyone else was following a 1920's model of exercize physiology. Another false concept from this era is the old 'oxygen debt' model. There is no oxygen debt during running, when you are breathing very hard, this isn't anaerobic work, it is the result of a high oxygen uptake plus a high carbon dioxide output.
And the idiot trolling against Nobby is, as usual, Antonio Cabral.
Correction, the idiot is Skuj, not Antonio.
ok so he would give his athletes less rest during intervals, thanks!
Here are two places to enjoy unencumbered Lydiard talk:
and you can enjoy this group:
!/group.php?gid=5276414716&ref=ts
wellnow wrote: And the idiot trolling against Nobby is, as usual, Antonio Cabral.And the jackass challenging Antonio Cabral (an established, legitimate coach of elite runners) is Jon Orange (AKA wellnow), a well known crank, coach of noone, decent masters runner who spouts off WELL above his pay grade.
weIInow wrote:
Correction, the idiot is Skuj, not Antonio.
WRONG, asshole, and you should know, because you are a mod pretending to be wellnow.
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one man's opinion wrote:
wellnow wrote: And the idiot trolling against Nobby is, as usual, Antonio Cabral.And the jackass challenging Antonio Cabral (an established, legitimate coach of elite runners) is Jon Orange (AKA wellnow), a well known crank, coach of noone, decent masters runner who spouts off WELL above his pay grade.
I bet that's our mod talkin....fixated with the original wellnow, who really is a pretty decent guy.
Only mod-wellnow is a nasty sob.
Surely wejo has something to say about all this? I'll check!
T.L. the stallion wrote:
ok so he would give his athletes less rest during intervals, thanks!
The general approach, and this may be earlier on this thread, was long interval/short recovery, short interval/long recovery. Snell told me that he didn't see any value in having short recoveries if the goal was to get your muscles used to running at a fast pace because as you got more tired you'd slow down which defeats the purpose of the short, fast interval session.
Skuj wrote:
Surely wejo has something to say about all this? I'll check!
That's right, Skuj. Go "wah, wah, wah" to wejo. Make sure to have him delete any post that disagrees with your position or paints you in a less than desirable light (even when it is deserved).
Grow a pair.
Skuj wrote:
weIInow wrote:Correction, the idiot is Skuj, not Antonio.
WRONG, asshole, and you should know, because you are a mod pretending to be wellnow.
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Yes that wasn't me.
one man's opinion wrote:
wellnow wrote: And the idiot trolling against Nobby is, as usual, Antonio Cabral.And the jackass challenging Antonio Cabral (an established, legitimate coach of elite runners) is Jon Orange (AKA wellnow), a well known crank, coach of noone, decent masters runner who spouts off WELL above his pay grade.
I debunk dogma. You know, the stuff you hold in such high regard?
Your split personality needs some attention, but not here, from the field of psychiatry. But I think you probably know that?
wellnow wrote:
And the idiot trolling against Nobby is, as usual, Antonio Cabral.
Skuj wrote:
I bet that's our mod talkin....fixated with the original wellnow, who really is a pretty decent guy.
You'd be wrong about that, Skuj. Right, wellnow?
one man's opinion wrote:
And the jackass challenging Antonio Cabral (an established, legitimate coach of elite runners) is Jon Orange (AKA wellnow), a well known crank, coach of noone, decent masters runner who spouts off WELL above his pay grade.
Really? Established and legitimate coach? It's easy to praise yourself, isn't it, Antonio!?
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that's just dumb
Klinger wrote:
that's just dumb
what do you mean?