Nico MF Young. Holy shit. Nico Young 12:45.27 FTW in Oslo outdoor AR!!!! George Mills British record!! Young wins WR attempt in Oslo. Wow.

Some comments stand out more than others. May I point you to Jeff Tallon’s respectful comments. He sensitively hints at Young on drugs without being rude and offish. He questions how Bob Kennedy would have run in todays era. Safe to say it’s easier to run being upgraded to newer tech than downgraded to older tech.

Do you think it’s easier for bill gates to leave his mansion and live in Haitian slumps or the opposite? I think the answer has to be clear. Bob Kennedy would be this era’s 5k Wr holder and Young would be hobbled and on wheelchair after 12 laps in the 1996 tech.

Who was faster in high school without vaporflys?

Nobody knows by how much the shoes /wave lights/better tracks improve performances. I wouldnt have thought bob kennedy would be world record holder.Not quite.Maybe his 12.58 would be worth 12.45 in todays era,but it couldnt be worth 12.35.

Kennedy ran in a huge EPO era. That cannot be discounted,

Phenomenal job by Young!!! Text book racing.

At this point in his career, I doubt Fisher has enough left to get under 12:40. However, Nico has a very real shot at it. Still only 22yrs old (23 in late July). Sensational stuff.

I'll cheer for nico young,and yared neguse because theyre both gay. To me,its awesome seeing two gay men being world class or world beating.

How does Jeff Tallon know anything more about who’s cheating than we do?

Come on. Being gay hinders being an elite runner? It doesn’t.

NICO is the real deal. It's awesome watching him do SO well and kill it.

here's a hot take: Nico is amazing BECAUSE he's gay. As a gay man, you grow up thinking you're less than, and so we overachieve - because we have to. To have the self worth you have to work for it like straight people do not have to.

I never said it hinders them,but its not always easy being gay. Believe me, I know........and to answer your other question i dont know for certain who is doping or who isnt. I often have very strong suspicions ,and some athletes literally scream PED use, but i cant prove it.

If healthy, Fisher already has sub-12:40 ability. If you weren't convinced by his 5/10 medals last year, 7:22i/12:44i pretty much showed what he would be capable of outdoors with full health.

You’re gay?

Just about every LRC poster has strong suspicions and believe some athletes scream PED use. Just like you, they have no evidence to back it up.

“Gay runners are just as fast as straight runners”

Fishers indoor front run grind is worth 123high in a hoover run like young just ran ....

and Fisher might well be peaked this summer. we shall see.

“Some comments stand out more than others. May I point you to Jeff Tallon’s respectful comments. He sensitively hints at Young on drugs without being rude and offish.”

I didn’t read (hear?) Tallon’s comments or even know who he is, but based on your description, he effing called Young a cheater and it doesn’t matter if he was polite about it.