Stock markets in free fall - thanks Trump!

marketperson wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

If you don't have liquid assets you are the last person in the world who should be looking at short term market fluctuations.

I think you missed the point: To buy dips, you have to call the tops. It's easy to say with hindsight but to try to implement a strategy around this is a fool's errand. Ironically, your best argument is something you said earlier: "ignore short term vol". I agree with that when it comes to investing for retirement. But, I can't agree with somehow building a long-term strategy that allocates some non-trivial % to cash waiting to buy dips. That always loses long term if you backtest it.

calling out the Trolls wrote:

marketperson wrote:

You're just making stuff up. They have exactly the same returns.

AdultInTheRoom, still waiting for you to answer about your glaring stupidity....

You are wrong so often, you credibility is a joke.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

agip wrote:

cutting off arms and intel to Ukraine is siding with Russia.

this is no secret. We even voted with russia in the security council against Europe.

"The US has twice sided with Russia in votes at the United Nations to mark the third anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the Trump administration's change of stance on the war."

Link:www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7435pnle0go

No, it's ending the war.

Ukraine cannot win.

Prolonging an unwinnable war is immoral.

cheezedic wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

No, it's ending the war.

Ukraine cannot win.

Prolonging an unwinnable war is immoral.

Is a quick winnable war moral?

agip wrote:

Not true at all wrote:

8% is not huge.

8% is huge when the problem is entirely self-inflicted and not an extraneous act.

The market is falling because of what the Republicans are doing, and the Republicans show no sign of stopping doing any of that.

Why own stocks in a nation with a death wish ruled by a mad king?

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

No, it's ending the war.

Ukraine cannot win.

Prolonging an unwinnable war is immoral.

betraying your allies and joiing forces with a vicious Russian bloody tyranny is the immoral act.

"It's easy to advocate for millions of
people being left to live under Russian occupation when neither you nor your
family are going to be tortured in a basement or gang-raped by Russian
soldiers"

Link:www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/...

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

agip wrote:

betraying your allies and joiing forces with a vicious Russian bloody tyranny is the immoral act.

"It's easy to advocate for millions of
people being left to live under Russian occupation when neither you nor your
family are going to be tortured in a basement or gang-raped by Russian
soldiers"

Link:www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/...

As the Kursk front suffers complete and utter disaster the propaganda machine is feeding you nonsense about a few blocks in Toretsk changing hands as if it means anything...

I promise you the Ukrainian conscripts do not want to continue fighting any more than the Russian conscripts do.

marketperson wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Intelligent people throw themselves out of the nearest window at the first sign of market volatility.

If the day to day stock price worries you aren't wealthy enough to be trading stocks.

Markets crash. Costs are increasing. Job losses to follow. How is this good?

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

As the Kursk front suffers complete and utter disaster the propaganda machine is feeding you nonsense about a few blocks in Toretsk changing hands as if it means anything...

I promise you the Ukrainian conscripts do not want to continue fighting any more than the Russian conscripts do.

you know that kursk is in russia, not ukraine, right?

Your definition of 'russia is winning' is russia advancing 20 meters while losing 20 lives.

Budapest Memorandum wrote:

It's called the Budapest Memorandum. US agreed in 1993 to protect the borders of Ukraine. Ukraine upheld its part of the agreement so the US should do the same.

calling out the Trolls wrote:

marketperson wrote:

You're just making stuff up. They have exactly the same returns.

AdultInTheRoom, still waiting for you to answer about your glaring stupidity....

You are wrong so often, you credibility is a joke.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

cheezedic wrote:

Is a quick winnable war moral?

It would be moral to aid Ukraine for as long as it took if they could win.

They cannot win and no amount of money will change that.

Demanding that the death continue because it's makes you feel bad that the "good guys" aren't getting their way is immoral.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Budapest Memorandum wrote:

It's called the Budapest Memorandum. US agreed in 1993 to protect the borders of Ukraine. Ukraine upheld its part of the agreement so the US should do the same.

You should read that memorandum and explain to me which of the 6 points says the US is obligated to provide any aid let alone military aid to Ukraine if Russia attacks it?

I look forward to you completely disappearing and pretending I never asked.

cheezedic wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

It would be moral to aid Ukraine for as long as it took if they could win.

They cannot win and no amount of money will change that.

Demanding that the death continue because it's makes you feel bad that the "good guys" aren't getting their way is immoral.

So fight until it looks like you might lose, then give up? I assume you apply that loser strategy to every aspect of your life.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You should read that memorandum and explain to me which of the 6 points says the US is obligated to provide any aid let alone military aid to Ukraine if Russia attacks it?

I look forward to you completely disappearing and pretending I never asked.

Don't just down vote this.

Look at the Budapest Memo and explain where it says the US is obligated to provide financial or military support to Ukraine.

cheezedic wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Don't just down vote this.

Look at the Budapest Memo and explain where it says the US is obligated to provide financial or military support to Ukraine.

You are correct. The US isn't obligated to protect Ukraine.

However, the Memo is very clear that all countries to the accord agreed to not use force against or threaten the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, which Russia clearly violated. It's natural that the remaining parties to the agreement would seek to enforce it.