Good lord you're insufferable. Enough of your "durr hurr just google it, a 25 isn't a sprint because it's slow" BS and freakin' realize that it is still a controlled sprint. The 800 is a two-lap sprint. It hurts like a sprint, burns like a sprint, makes you go lactic like a sprint...
Maybe a better title would've been "is 800 a controlled sprint" but my point stands overall
No one can run an 800m at 25 second pace for 200m.
All proper sprinting is controlled sprinting.
Running sub maximumly is not sprinting.
25.5 pace for 200m for an elite 800m does not require the joint angles, forces, ATP usage, biomechanics etc. required of sprinting.
800m running is middle distance running because it is run at fast but sub maximum pace. It’s in the middle of sprinting and distance running. That’s why it’s called middle distance.
1. The world record holder in the 800 was LITERALLY a "schoolboy sprinter" before moving to the 800. He raced the 400 seriously as a young man, and there is no 400 runner who hasn't run some 200s and 100s. He doesn't have a single recorded 1500/mile, and his coach is quoted saying he struggled to run 15:xx 5ks.
2. "Fast endurance athletes" my a $. Most of the best 800 runners in history were relatively USELESS over 1000m, precisely BECAUSE they were best suited to the speed of events 70s-105s in length (600/800).
3. 100 seconds is NOT an endurance duration.
Rudisha ran 2:19 for 1,000m
He only ran a couple of 400m's at senior level and nothing below that distance
The current olympic champion Emmanuel Wanyonyi has no recorded 400m time and has run a 3:54 mile
The WR for 1,000m was run by an 800m runner Ngeny who ran a 3:43 mile!
Expect a 1:39.XX 800m. 49/50 splits. The next progression will be 49/49... 1:38... Seems pretty fast but according to our friend it's not a sprint... What would get someone there? The endurance of a marathoner or speed of a sprinter??
Expect a 1:39.XX 800m. 49/50 splits. The next progression will be 49/49... 1:38... Seems pretty fast but according to our friend it's not a sprint... What would get someone there? The endurance of a marathoner or speed of a sprinter??
This. If you think the former, you're behind.
Literally the current world record of the 800M was set with 49/51 splits. I literally don't know how you can't call that controlled sprint. Rudisha is no marathoner. He could barely run a 15 minute 5K. He went out in 23 seconds for the first 200M for God's sake.
Now, yes, if Rudisha ever ran an all out 200M he would run 21L if not under 21 to be honest. Doesn't mean that 23 seconds is still a good, steady sprint for him. It's just simply not as taxing.
All good sprinting is controlled sprinting. Sprinting is more controlled than distance running, where most distance runners just run naturally without focusing on technique. Sprinters control their technique much more than distance runners.
They already have a term for 800m running, middle distance. It’s not sprinting and it’s not distance. It’s middle distance.
Did you google the definition of the word “middle” yet?
Expect a 1:39.XX 800m. 49/50 splits. The next progression will be 49/49... 1:38... Seems pretty fast but according to our friend it's not a sprint... What would get someone there? The endurance of a marathoner or speed of a sprinter??
This. If you think the former, you're behind.
Literally the current world record of the 800M was set with 49/51 splits. I literally don't know how you can't call that controlled sprint. Rudisha is no marathoner. He could barely run a 15 minute 5K. He went out in 23 seconds for the first 200M for God's sake.
Now, yes, if Rudisha ever ran an all out 200M he would run 21L if not under 21 to be honest. Doesn't mean that 23 seconds is still a good, steady sprint for him. It's just simply not as taxing.
So what's an uncontrolled sprint? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Sprinting also requires specialized sprinting equipment, like sprint spikes and starting blocks. Sprinters work on starts and acceleration multiple times a week. A sprint start, accelerating, and the various sprint phases are very technical and controlled, meaning the athlete is focused on precise technique at different phases of sprint events. Sprinters focus on a multitude of technical factors while they race. If you ran an 800m using proper sprint technique, it wouldn’t be efficient enough for 800m pace.
All good sprinting is controlled sprinting. Sprinting is more controlled than distance running, where most distance runners just run naturally without focusing on technique. Sprinters control their technique much more than distance runners.
They already have a term for 800m running, middle distance. It’s not sprinting and it’s not distance. It’s middle distance.
Did you google the definition of the word “middle” yet?
If we google "controlled sprint" does it come up with the 800m? Or do we need to go "middle distance" for that?
Someone got butthurt after looking up the definition of ”middle” and realizing it means not one, not the other, but between the two, and starting insulting everyone.
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