Boise State volleyball forfeits match against opponent with trans player

Even the U.N. is speaking out about this. Maybe we've reached the breaking point.

this is just an ad thread or trolling, not a debate. you just post something whenever someone pro- does. doesn't even have to relate to what we said.

and your nonsense argument ignores we allow women right now to play men's football (D3 girl) and baseball (D1 girl). so it's not that we are keeping sexes strictly separate, as you suggest. while pretending to be plainspoken you are actually being very precise, as you notably avoid saying the inverse, that boys/mens sports are for boys/men.

i say this because while posturing that this is about sex difference, it's not, because you don't care if girls play boys sports.

at which point, this is really not about strict separation, as your highly parsed rhetoric dances around, it's about the safety and fairness issues of letting a very very very limited amount of trans men go the opposite direction that we allow girls to blur in boys sports.

at which point, SJSU had this girl last year and sucked. and other than tourists crying that someone took a ball off the face in volleyball, there is no convincing argument here that the person hits harder than other women. there is a pouting implication but zero data. no coaches or players saying i never saw a girl hit like that. no women's olympians saying we don't see hits that hard.

i watched the women's olympic volleyball play each game they had. my wife and i enjoy he sport. you're a tourist if you think this person hits it harder than the olympians do. and if the olympic women hit it that hard, that's still women's sports.

90% or more of Americans oppose biological boys playing on girls teams.

I would think.

Yet here we are. Plunging ahead with this nonsense.

Who is behind this and how do they have so much power?

she's a woman for the purposes of NCAA volleyball rules. period.

this is a sports thread. run your political ad someplace else.

Men don't hit harder than women?

Do you know what this thread is about?

He's a man. For all purposes

for you it appears to be a political ad posing as sports discussion, inasmuch as your punchline here is "Who is behind this and how do they have so much power?"

irony being usually whatever state governing body or NCAA actually deciding this, is separate from the politicians in the executive or legislature you try to turn this conversation into a referendum on.

since you aren't even directing your concerns to the actual powers that be, making such decisions, this is wedge politics in an election runup, posing as sports discussion. you want people to vote against certain politicians with a particular party who don't actually make the decisions.

NCAA and the state HS sports folks make the decisions. go talk to them.

According to polls 93% of Republicans and 67% of Independents oppose biological males competing as females. Dems? Only 48%. These of course are the same people who denied Biden has dementia and who disliked Kamala intensely as a VP but loved her as soon as Biden got switched out for her.

news.gallup.com

More Say Birth Gender Should Dictate Sports Participation

Jeffrey M. Jones

Americans are less supportive than two years ago of transgender athletes being allowed to play on sports teams that match their current gender identity.

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I am shocked they get anyone to buy into this travesty

what do you mean, "all purposes?" i just named one highly applicable purpose where the NCAA rules disagree with you. the rules of participation disagree.

oh, but, i am sorry, you decide everything. sure. your purposes. so other purposes, like the rules, don't get to count.

It's a good question how a distinct minority gets to make the rules.

They can write all the rules they want; does not change a boy into a girl

oh, i see now. only republicans count as people now? so if 93% republicans believe something that's 93% americans?

nah, you fibbed. worse, you did so in a way that dehumanizes those with which you disagree. people reading this thread should factor in if they don't agree with you they're some mix of not human or not sufficiently patriotic.

so, maybe you have other bigotry issues too.

like i tell my friends. you stand your ground a few minutes on these issues and the bigots' broader agenda starts popping out. you can't help it.

kind of like anti-abortion activists will start in on other sex things they want banned.

it's never just one thing with political types.

here is the deal. when NCAA does a decision it's a board of college presidents deciding the issue. the colleges are deciding this for the colleges. joe schmo of the 50% or so who never see a college campus are not meant to have any say on how colleges or college sports run.

this isn't the US house or idaho legislature. you can't cry that a decision by a majority of the NCAA board is a "minority" decision. other than suggesting nonstakeholder joe schmo gets to tell colleges how to run their schools.

and joe schmo's personal opinion doesn't decide who gets to play college sports. if you want to decide that, get a degree and run a college. then you have a say.

otherwise, as a former college athlete, i would appreciate it if the GOP politicians trying very hard to ruin college sports got the heck out of the thing i like. i don't think y'all care one bit about the general state of college sports in 20 other ways. and if you're gonna stir up political trash playing tourist, you can move along. i don't want you messing with their fun.

Nonsense is thinking that sex can be changed. It can't. The pouting is from you and others who think that feminism and women's/girl's rights to sports and spaces is transphobic. Your obsession with how hard the ball is hit means nothing.

Go on and on if you like but boys are boys, not girls.

Are you trying to be funny or ironic using the word period here?

And what do you have against actual XX females? You're too fired up about this and it's very disconcerting.