"We have a new trend which is resulting from mass testing and intelligence. Many athletes are running away when they get wind that anti-doping control officers are coming but we are now charging them with evasion," said Rogoncho.
Well then, no positive test, so no reason to get upset, right rekrunner?
I find evasion more serious than whereabouts failures.
Dianabol was first synthesized in 1955 (CIBA Labs) & Turinabol in 1960 (it's funny though strength athletes are still testing positive for these compounds. Lol).
Move on in what way? The GDR documents show that Turinabol nor testosterone was being administered to their marathon runners, or distance runners for that fact.
As I said before, it's "low-octane" doping for distance runners & endurance athletes in general. It not going to do much for improving their times.
ESA's & transfusions is where it's at for distance runners & endurance athletes ("high-octane" doping). We have a ton history with the use of ESA's & transfusions with distance runners, cyclists & XC skiers.
You show a lack of respect for human biology. Nothing surprising though.
Would you be interested in learning about the subject, or are you more interested in the doping stories?
Well, teach me something on the subject then - I'm all ears. 🤔 I don't see you posting any studies or research on the subject. I'm willing to have a scientific debate on this but you'll provide some research.
In the meantime, here's some studies I found on the issue (though probably not you want to hear):
- Winstrol failed to improve VO2 max, anaerobic threshold & competition running times with well-trained male distance runners:
The effect of a low-dose treatment (10 mg/day) of stanozolol on the anaerobic threshold (AT) and on maximal velocity (Vmax) was studied in ten well-trained runners in a 6-week trial experiment. The serum levels of testosteron...
Male distance runners over an 18-week intensive training block experienced dramatic drops in serum testosterone levels, but suprising this decrease did not affect running performance & times:
And this isn't surprising: Female endurance athletes using low-dose testosterone (topical gels) significantly improved time to exhaustion (TTE) in a treadmill endurance test:
Objective To investigate the effects of a moderate increase in serum testosterone on physical performance in young, physically active, healthy women. Methods A double blind, randomised, placebo controlled trial was conducted...
Why do people who claim to love track and field downvote these posts. It breaks my heart that drugs are so prevalent in the sport. And I don’t care if they are African, British, Russian, Indian it just sucks that it can’t be a level playing field.
Well said. Kudos to athletics Kenya for doing this right before the Olympics. The easiest thing in the world would be to quietly sweep it under the rug until later.
They first announced this last year. Finally they reveal 3 of the names, on the same day that Rhonex Kipruto gets banned, so it gets buried.
You show a lack of respect for human biology. Nothing surprising though.
Would you be interested in learning about the subject, or are you more interested in the doping stories?
Well, teach me something on the subject then - I'm all ears. 🤔 I don't see you posting any studies or research on the subject. I'm willing to have a scientific debate on this but you'll provide some research.
In the meantime, here's some studies I found on the issue (though probably not you want to hear):
- Winstrol failed to improve VO2 max, anaerobic threshold & competition running times with well-trained male distance runners:
Male distance runners over an 18-week intensive training block experienced dramatic drops in serum testosterone levels, but suprising this decrease did not affect running performance & times:
And this isn't surprising: Female endurance athletes using low-dose testosterone (topical gels) significantly improved time to exhaustion (TTE) in a treadmill endurance test:
So, what say you? Anything you may have found in the scientific literature to rebut these studies?
I wonder why you have so much faith on doping efficacy and so little faith in humanity biology? What is about those two subjects that sways you in the direction of exogenous 'performance enhancement' substances and away from endogenous 'performance enhancement'?
What exactly is so enticing and credible about those science papers? Do they demonstrate supernatural bioenergetic enhancement? Or is that question too vague? I'm sure I could make it less so, if we were to discuss it in a way that respects each field of study and not just a particular political/money driven agenda.
They aren't "extremely concerned" with what you find. They don't find your arguments credible.
What do you think, how many posters find your "arguments" credible?
I don't care who or how many posters find my arguments credible. But what is obvious is that many posters don't find rekrunner's defence of dopers to be credible. That is why he spends every post trying to justify his arguments.
Two different threads on the latest Kenyan doping busts on the front page, and both completely rekrunnered by him and his fellow trolls such as 'Jaberwokky' and 'here's my take'.
Every Kenyan doping thread is the same. Discussion of what do about the problem, or speculation on who the next Kenyan to be busted will be, it always just get Rekrunnered.
And yet there is thread on the homepage right now specifically about whether 'EPO works' or not.
The Brojos should tell the mods to delete any posts discussing whether doping works, or whether wheareabouts failures are doping related, in these Kenyan doping bust threads. In the meantime, please follow my example and report all of Rekrunner/Jabberworky's posts as thread derailing.
Two different threads on the latest Kenyan doping busts on the front page, and both completely rekrunnered by him and his fellow trolls such as 'Jaberwokky' and 'here's my take'.
Every Kenyan doping thread is the same. Discussion of what do about the problem, or speculation on who the next Kenyan to be busted will be, it always just get Rekrunnered.
And yet there is thread on the homepage right now specifically about whether 'EPO works' or not.
The Brojos should tell the mods to delete any posts discussing whether doping works, or whether wheareabouts failures are doping related, in these Kenyan doping bust threads. In the meantime, please follow my example and report all of Rekrunner/Jabberworky's posts as thread derailing.
I though I just explained no one is concerned about your arguments - including me. You are simply a tedious propagandist for doped athletes.
Thanks again. I really appreciate your concern.
Regardless of what I find or argue, WADA also finds evasion far more serious than whereabouts failures. We can see this in the length of the default ban. By default, a finding of intentional evasion will result in a 4-year ban, while the first whereabouts failure has no consequence. A second whereabouts failure still has no consequence. It is only the third failure within 12-months that results in a default 2-year ban.
Simple math suggests that evasion is at least 6x more serious.
This ignores the rolling 12-month period which decreases the whereabouts failure counter, as well as most athletes not subject to whereabouts requirements.
What do you think, how many posters find your "arguments" credible?
I don't care who or how many posters find my arguments credible. But what is obvious is that many posters don't find rekrunner's defence of dopers to be credible. That is why he spends every post trying to justify his arguments.
I don't care who or how many posters find my arguments credible. But what is obvious is that many posters don't find you to be credible. That is why you spend every post trying to justify your arguments.
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