Move over, Addy, there’s a new cheater come to town! Just in time for Paris too.
No 17 year old girl is running 1:57 out of the blue without chemical help. I don’t care what all you simps with blinders say. Seems to be contagious among the Redcoats.
Move over, Addy, there’s a new cheater come to town! Just in time for Paris too.
No 17 year old girl is running 1:57 out of the blue without chemical help. I don’t care what all you simps with blinders say. Seems to be contagious among the Redcoats.
Guys like you and Astro are insane if you think UK Athletics would be doping children.
And based on a dodgy Sky package in a multi-million dollar team sport?
When you have just recently had a much bigger scandal directly involving athletics and your legendary Sleazy Sal??
We're seeing similarly talented youngsters appear all over the Western World - Jakob, Myers, Laros, etc etc. Has the (non-American) Western World all decided simultaneously to start doping minors in athletics?
It's not our fault that your high school system clearly sucks at finding and nurturing talent.
Hold your horses, armchair athletes! Before you diagnose a 17-year-old with a case of "too-good-to-be-true-itis," remember that your unfounded accusations are more toxic than a pre-workout shake gone bad.
Not only are you perpetuating harmful stereotypes, but you're also delivering a gut punch to the mental and emotional well-being of these young athletes. It's like stealing their gold medal and replacing it with a participation trophy dipped in shame.
So, let's trade the doping allegations for a dose of reality. These young athletes are out there sweating, striving, and pushing their limits, not because they're chemically enhanced, but because they're fueled by passion and dedication.
Remember, folks, words can build or they can break. Choose yours wisely, lest you become the villain in this real-life underdog story.
Signed,
The Doping Detective Debunker (DDD) – Here to protect the integrity of sport and the mental health of young athletes, one debunked accusation at a time
Move over, Addy, there’s a new cheater come to town! Just in time for Paris too.
No 17 year old girl is running 1:57 out of the blue without chemical help. I don’t care what all you simps with blinders say. Seems to be contagious among the Redcoats.
Britain took over,where russia left off.
Hold your PED-laced horses, conspiracy theorists! "Britain took over where Russia left off" is nonsense.
Let's inject some facts into this doping delusion. Britain's anti-doping program isn't some shady sequel to Russia's doping drama. It's a well-established, robust system with a zero-tolerance policy for cheaters.
Accusing Britain of taking up Russia's doping baton is like saying a marathon winner stole the victory because they drank water at the aid stations. It's absurd, unfounded, and frankly insulting to the countless clean athletes representing the Union Jack.
So, before you start flinging more wild accusations, remember this: real doping detectives deal in evidence, not innuendo.
There are plenty of performances like this or even much better. Off the top of my head burgins 1:45 a few years back. Knightons 19.8. Cain running 4:04. myers running 3:34. Jacob running 3:31.
Max Burgins 1:45.36 and Mary Cains 4:04.62 are not nearly as good. Cains 1:59.51 was probably her most impressive result as a 17 year old.
Myers I'd say was at about the same level.
Jakob and Knighton's performances were certainly better. Although in the latter case perhaps comparing sprints to middle distances isn't quite like-for-like.
It will be very interesting to see what Gill does next. I hope she doesn't let the increased level of attention and scrutiny affect her too much.
We will see if a high 1:57 gets you into the Olympics finals the way Cain got into a WC one. It was a different time in terms of time.
The point is simply anyone who follows this sport has seen plenty of people like this. It isn’t unique. There are always talented runners on the rise. That is part of the excitement of the athletics.
Guys like you and Astro are insane if you think UK Athletics would be doping children.
And based on a dodgy Sky package in a multi-million dollar team sport?
When you have just recently had a much bigger scandal directly involving athletics and your legendary Sleazy Sal??
We're seeing similarly talented youngsters appear all over the Western World - Jakob, Myers, Laros, etc etc. Has the (non-American) Western World all decided simultaneously to start doping minors in athletics?
It's not our fault that your high school system clearly sucks at finding and nurturing talent.
17 year old girls cant run that fast.If they could,the east germans,russians and chinese would have done it.News flash! they didnt! Meanwhile im not American .Not even close. Of course you got one thing right.Doping of minors in westernised countries.
Hold your PED-laced horses, conspiracy theorists! "Britain took over where Russia left off" is nonsense.
Let's inject some facts into this doping delusion. Britain's anti-doping program isn't some shady sequel to Russia's doping drama. It's a well-established, robust system with a zero-tolerance policy for cheaters.
Accusing Britain of taking up Russia's doping baton is like saying a marathon winner stole the victory because they drank water at the aid stations. It's absurd, unfounded, and frankly insulting to the countless clean athletes representing the Union Jack.
So, before you start flinging more wild accusations, remember this: real doping detectives deal in evidence, not innuendo.
DDD, out.
More bullcrap ! if British athletes dont dope,then why are they?
More bullcrap ! if British athletes dont dope,then why are they?
It's not about whether British people dope or not anyway, we're talking about this particular athlete.
Doping is about risk vs reward. I'm not sure who it is you think is involved in doping her, but if they are the risk they're taking (for limited reward to themselves) is absolutely astronomical.
She was already breaking national records in the age groups, I don't see how anyone would be stupid enough to take that risk at this of development, particularly as the repercussions of getting caught would be far greater than just a ban for the athlete.
Hold your horses, armchair athletes! Before you diagnose a 17-year-old with a case of "too-good-to-be-true-itis," remember that your unfounded accusations are more toxic than a pre-workout shake gone bad.
Not only are you perpetuating harmful stereotypes, but you're also delivering a gut punch to the mental and emotional well-being of these young athletes. It's like stealing their gold medal and replacing it with a participation trophy dipped in shame.
So, let's trade the doping allegations for a dose of reality. These young athletes are out there sweating, striving, and pushing their limits, not because they're chemically enhanced, but because they're fueled by passion and dedication.
Remember, folks, words can build or they can break. Choose yours wisely, lest you become the villain in this real-life underdog story.
Signed,
The Doping Detective Debunker (DDD) – Here to protect the integrity of sport and the mental health of young athletes, one debunked accusation at a time
Please note, there are over 300 million Americans, talk the one poster because America is not accusing this kid of doping.
Hold your horses, armchair athletes! Before you diagnose a 17-year-old with a case of "too-good-to-be-true-itis," remember that your unfounded accusations are more toxic than a pre-workout shake gone bad.
Not only are you perpetuating harmful stereotypes, but you're also delivering a gut punch to the mental and emotional well-being of these young athletes. It's like stealing their gold medal and replacing it with a participation trophy dipped in shame.
So, let's trade the doping allegations for a dose of reality. These young athletes are out there sweating, striving, and pushing their limits, not because they're chemically enhanced, but because they're fueled by passion and dedication.
Remember, folks, words can build or they can break. Choose yours wisely, lest you become the villain in this real-life underdog story.
Signed,
The Doping Detective Debunker (DDD) – Here to protect the integrity of sport and the mental health of young athletes, one debunked accusation at a time
Ah, wise one hear whispers of suspicion, like wind rustling through dry leaves, spreading rumor of foul play. But remember, not all whispers carry truth, some just echoes of fear, envy, or ignorance.
Rumor like wildfire, spread fast, burn bright, but leave ashes of doubt. Wise one not chase smoke, but seek source of flame. Look for proof, not just whispers in wind.
Britain, land of lion, proud and strong, not sneaky serpent. Anti-doping program, like sharp sword, cut down cheaters, protect fair play.
Accuse them of foul play, like saying lion steal from mouse.
Remember, young one: trust earned, not given freely. Like bridge built stone by stone, takes time, effort, to build strong foundation. Don't let fear cloud judgment, like fog obscuring path.
Look for facts, like stars guiding traveler in night. Celebrate true champions, those who win with honor, not with hidden tricks. For in end, only truth endure, like mountain standing tall against raging storm.
Another extraordinary 800m race by Pheobe Gill this evening at the Manchester BMC, 55 flat at the bell and held on to win in 1:58.08 as Ciara Mageean broke the Irish record in 2nd. Ms.Gill's time broke Keely Hodgkinson's track record.
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I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
I can appreciate your skepticism. Being somewhat skeptical can be a valuable tool. But Armstronglivs, what happens if you wield it more judiciously? Unfounded suspicion can be as detrimental as blind faith, and you're not the kind of poster who takes things with blind faith.
An athlete's pursuit of excellence is a dynamic process. What seemed impossible yesterday is becoming more commonplace today. Can you embrace the possibility of greatness while maintaining a healthy dose of skepticism? It'll ensure that we neither naively accept nor hastily dismiss exceptional performances like Phoebe's.
I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
I can appreciate your skepticism. Being somewhat skeptical can be a valuable tool. But Armstronglivs, what happens if you wield it more judiciously? Unfounded suspicion can be as detrimental as blind faith, and you're not the kind of poster who takes things with blind faith.
An athlete's pursuit of excellence is a dynamic process. What seemed impossible yesterday is becoming more commonplace today. Can you embrace the possibility of greatness while maintaining a healthy dose of skepticism? It'll ensure that we neither naively accept nor hastily dismiss exceptional performances like Phoebe's.
I don't think my scepticism is unfounded. But I don't think other posters - or the mods - want me to go down that path again. I simply do not trust fantastic improvements in a doped sport.
I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
Who do you think is doping her?
I am not a really interested in pursuing that inquiry. However I do know that doping occurs amongst school age athletes. So they find a way.
I don't care what age an athlete is, anything that looks too good to be true is suspect. You can choose to believe whatever you like about any performance, that belief cannot establish that it is genuine beyond doubt. So the only answer you have to scepticism is to hope it is wrong.
Doubting seed, deep roots in past sorrows.
Understandable, yet...
Sky not always clouded. Sun sometimes breaks through, no?
Athletic heart, like strong bamboo, can grow tall, even in poisoned soil.
But... wise gardener always watchful. Eyes open for unnatural growth, yes?
Trust but verify, old proverb say. Apply to this also.
Not all blossoms false. Some truly bloom from hard work, dedication.
Balance needed, like tightrope walker.
Doubt too much, miss beauty of genuine achievement.
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