Another Kenyan busted

Of course he is the king. He clearly owns you, and you follow him everywhere.

...wish I had a 'moronic nob' - sounds wonderful. ...but I'd worry it would wear out my Mizuno jogging shorts.

Rekrunner has precisely one supporter - Hoady. It's crazy we give him so much attention. He has typed over a million words (literally) here on doping apologism , and I doubt if he has ever even slightly persuaded a.single person, especially with his 'peds don't work' nonsense.

Likewise, I don't care that you don't care. That doesn't change your widespread reputation as a largely uninformed arrogant man-child who often falls back on weird but inapplicable analogies because you lack facts on the main topic.

I do not "deny doping" when it is backed by sufficient evidence. This is where all of your stated beliefs fall short, because you can never find sufficient evidence. My ideas about doping are not just mine. My ideas of Houlihan's ban is what the CAS told me: "presumed intent from an unestablished source". My idea of Salazar's ban is what USADA and the AAA Panel told me -- no NOP athlete found doped, after leaving no stone unturned. My ideas of Salazar's Safesport ban are what Kara and Mary and other NOP women told me. My ideas of Kenyan doping are what WADA and the AIU tells me, in detailed reports and multiple press statements.

You live in an imaginary world where you think false arrogance and repetition can substitute for factual evidence.

Yet another Coevett contribution filled with false statements.

I have read many of his words to the subject of doping, not a single one was about "doping apologism".

Can you just give some concrete examples?

I Did It My Way.

I look on it as like cleaning up the dogsh*t on the board.

You don't become a moronic nob until you become a doping denier like rekrunner and his handful of stooges. It isn't a status to aspire to.

He has at least three followers, as we see here. Not much of a tally after twenty years.

Yes. Every one of his posts on the board. Collectively they all come to the same position, of minimising, denying or apologising for for doping. It is his raison d'etre. That is why he has made a total of three converts in all the years he has blathered on here.

Concrete example.

Can you give a concrete example of anything he's said that was not doping apologists?

The only doping denier on those board I know is Coevett, who would argue his heroes were clean until death.

For the avoidance of any doubt, Armstronglivs, I am neither a follower of rekrunner* nor anybody else. I really have no skin in the game in regards to your beef with each other; I just happen to think you're a complete bell-end.

* though he does base his opinions largely on the available evidence, which incidentally, to help out you and Coevett, to save you having to pass your shared brain cell back and forth, does not make him a doping apologist.

I could expand on that, and give my own thoughts and opinions on doping, but given your myopic troll-like nature I feel that trying to use logic and reason with you would be like using a cheese grater on my balls - i.e. a pointless and painful endeavour.

...unless I don't understand 'apologism' ...doesn't every second mention of doping in books etc...'apologize' for it ?...because "everyone is doing it, so the playing field is actually level" etc etc... or, basically, you either do it, or you have no chance of being world class etc ? The classic case and book is Charlie Francises...(Ben Johnson) ...and he didn't spend much time writing about his sleepless nights feeling guilty about having nearly cheated Desai, Linford, Dennis out of medals and places etc ...he was matter of fact that at the time, you did it or you'd be left way behind. ...and that's essentially apologism for doping. ...and wasn't Ben back with Charlie when Ben got sprung the second time ? ...Charlie's book was published (well) prior to the 1992 Olympics.

...remember how Ben's run inspired Stefka to jump the world record in the high jump, a few minutes later ? ...and the record still stands today in 2024. ...even though she wacked the bar and probably only jumped 2.07, not 2.09...and those scrupulous Roman officials steadied the bar right after she was over... ...if I go back and watch it again in slow motion, there was probably a Bulgarian coach pushing her bottom as well. - plus she might have done a shoe-box full of blow back in the dressing rooms with Andonova and the Kiev-Bull, Tamara Bykova.

I was actually in Italy back in 1987, buying some authentic pizza ingredients. - and happened to win free tickets on the radio, to see the women's high-jump. I remember disliking Stefka's short hair and run-up, so started rooting Tamara Bykova. I was seated just behind her run-up and when she was attempting 2.06, I'd support her by singing at the top of my lungs: "Tamara, Tamara, I love ya, Tamara, you're only a bees-dick away !". I'll never forget her on the apron just before her second attempt, turning to me and holding up one finger, to indicate that she wanted one more reprise of my song. - which I did, as requested. She missed and put the bar up to 2.08 for her final attempt. This time she didn't turn to me and so I respectfully kept quiet during this tense period, aside from shouting 'wedgie !' during her run up. Sadly she missed. - but as I explained to security on my way out of the stadium, she clearly had a massive wedgie and with her being so tall and all that, it caught my eye. Where was I meant to look ? - at Stefka's short hair ? - no thanks.

P.S. - for anyone who hasn't seen 'Roman Holiday' with Audrey Hepburn, that's basically it. Except Gregory Peck was playing the guy who puts the bar up.

Pretty sure SteveTheCoward and Hoaty321 are both Hoady. KochFan might be a new doping apologist. Both probably think Rekrunner is a loon, but his trolling and obfuscation serves their doping apologists purposes.

#185

Here are four: Decker, Coe, Radcliffe (hence the nickname Gary), and currently Houlihan as demonstrated in over ten threads.

Hmmmm, all white and (more or less) English speaking.