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Oh there's one guy who absolutely wants her to fail. His name is Asturd or something like that.
I also don't understand how anyone can say a 1:57 female is devoid of fast twitch innards. Keely isn't a blazer in the 400 but who can argue with her success? I'd put Jemma in there too.
I kinda think that Keely is an outlier. Her best race in the future will be the 1500. I also feel like that will be AW's best event.
Keely is going to dip under 1:55 next year, and is top 3 in the world, I don't think she'll be moving up for a long time. I agree about AW unless you're talking about root beer.
Who is saying that anyone is devoid of "fast twitch" innards?
Every single person has a mix of slow, fast, and hybrid muscle fibres. Usain Bolt has some slow twitch, but he has a lot more fast twitch. Kiptum has some fast twitch, but he has a lot more slow twitch. The 800 will have some runners who come from the 400 meter side, and some who come from the distance side.
Have you been reading the comments? These guys are acting like she can only run a 58 second 400.
Have you been reading the comments? These guys are acting like she can only run a 58 second 400.
Have you been reading the comments?
We can agree is that there are plenty of yahoo's on here outing themselves for not knowing anything about running. One guy earlier (the poster "she needs to get away from nick") was claiming that Wiley's best 600 was ~1:33 while also acknowledging that she's run a 1:57 800. Please, make it make sense if you can?!
Then this same poster was basically saying that anyone wanting to run an 800 as fast as Mu needs to be able to run a quarter as fast as Mu, and this just plainly isn't true (obviously!).
I was explaining how a more predominantly ST runner could possibly run as "slow" as a 53 and still be able to run ~1:55, and then the normie "Surprise!" felt like he needed to out himself by making the claim that it's impossible for a predominantly slow twitch woman to run a 53 (which is ridiculous, of course).
Does Addy need to improve her speed to run Mu's 800 time? Yes, I am pretty sure. I bet this past summer she could run ~53.5 - 54, and she'll likely need to be able to run 52.5ish to run a 1:55.0 (though someone like Sifan would only need to run about a 53). Is it possible for her to get there. Absolutely. Can she run a 49 like Mu? No way! Does she need to in order to match or even better Mu in the 800. Nope!
Have you been reading the comments? These guys are acting like she can only run a 58 second 400.
Have you been reading the comments?
We can agree is that there are plenty of yahoo's on here outing themselves for not knowing anything about running. One guy earlier (the poster "she needs to get away from nick") was claiming that Wiley's best 600 was ~1:33 while also acknowledging that she's run a 1:57 800. Please, make it make sense if you can?!
Then this same poster was basically saying that anyone wanting to run an 800 as fast as Mu needs to be able to run a quarter as fast as Mu, and this just plainly isn't true (obviously!).
I was explaining how a more predominantly ST runner could possibly run as "slow" as a 53 and still be able to run ~1:55, and then the normie "Surprise!" felt like he needed to out himself by making the claim that it's impossible for a predominantly slow twitch woman to run a 53 (which is ridiculous, of course).
Does Addy need to improve her speed to run Mu's 800 time? Yes, I am pretty sure. I bet this past summer she could run ~53.5 - 54, and she'll likely need to be able to run 52.5ish to run a 1:55.0 (though someone like Sifan would only need to run about a 53). Is it possible for her to get there. Absolutely. Can she run a 49 like Mu? No way! Does she need to in order to match or even better Mu in the 800. Nope!
I don’t necessarily disagree with all of this, but it doesn’t take into account Mu who only is only 21, continuing to improve in both the 400 and 1500. She can take some time off her 1500 just by running in Lane 1. Curious if she will go for a 400/800 double or 800/1500 in Paris. We need her on that 4 x 400 along with a healthy Sydney to take down that doped record too.
Have you been reading the comments? These guys are acting like she can only run a 58 second 400.
Have you been reading the comments?
We can agree is that there are plenty of yahoo's on here outing themselves for not knowing anything about running. One guy earlier (the poster "she needs to get away from nick") was claiming that Wiley's best 600 was ~1:33 while also acknowledging that she's run a 1:57 800. Please, make it make sense if you can?!
Then this same poster was basically saying that anyone wanting to run an 800 as fast as Mu needs to be able to run a quarter as fast as Mu, and this just plainly isn't true (obviously!).
I was explaining how a more predominantly ST runner could possibly run as "slow" as a 53 and still be able to run ~1:55, and then the normie "Surprise!" felt like he needed to out himself by making the claim that it's impossible for a predominantly slow twitch woman to run a 53 (which is ridiculous, of course).
Does Addy need to improve her speed to run Mu's 800 time? Yes, I am pretty sure. I bet this past summer she could run ~53.5 - 54, and she'll likely need to be able to run 52.5ish to run a 1:55.0 (though someone like Sifan would only need to run about a 53). Is it possible for her to get there. Absolutely. Can she run a 49 like Mu? No way! Does she need to in order to match or even better Mu in the 800. Nope!
But I'm not looking at what A needs to run as fast as B. AW is a miler and can also run a fast 800. And she will get faster. She runs 1:55 that takes some fast leg turnover so the Letrun goniffs consistently don't get it. 20 year old and they say she can't get faster by a couple of seconds? That's madness.
Most of this thread is irrelevant to Wiley vs Mu and the mods know that. But for some reason Rojo has a weird obsession with Wiley and lets stuff stay up.
It easy to tell that the lawsuit is in shambles, it’s dead in the water despite what they make up by the 6th. They know it’s over, that’s why they have been on here so much attacking Wiley and the Johnson’s since the dismissal. Thankfully people are seeing through it and it’s just exposing their crazy. Craig Jordan is taking advantage of his 100+ accounts and vpns because now he knows there are emails/messages that are going to come out and he’s scared. Not to mention all those NDA’s from his settlement with Greencastle are no longer valid and people can talk, and boy are they talking. This is all a smoke screen, it’s the plaintiffs and their supporters panicking and they don’t know what to do.
Rojo claimed to be proud to host official legal documentation on the site when it came to this case, don’t you all think it’s ironic that he hasn’t shared the full legal document for this dismissal?
That is false. There are thousands of posts over the past year accusing her of doping.
But if you are one of the few who really feels bad for her, you don't need to feel bad for the fastest college runner. You should feel bad for the thousands who are slower. but you are incorrect regarding your statement.
It was shared. Only dismissed the Title IV claims against the university due to lack of actual knowledge. Did not debunk a thing. But that is the party with the money. The amount of endless bs on this subject is legendary already.
That is false. There are thousands of posts over the past year accusing her of doping.
But if you are one of the few who really feels bad for her, you don't need to feel bad for the fastest college runner. You should feel bad for the thousands who are slower. but you are incorrect regarding your statement.
Yes and most those posts are the same few people over and over again so who cares what they say.
What do you know about HU’s (and other related parties) plans after the current proceedings get dismissed? For whatever reason, the overt animus against Wiley (not just from a few posters but also from the site founders) has been obvious. Rojo, in particular, has had opportunities to course correct, but has only doubled down. I don’t think he can plead ignorance, but who knows. He’s obviously had it in for Wiley from the beginning. I think he may have really stepped in it.