“Also in 1994, the district hired Dr. Eugene Long to study the track and field program. That summer, he told the district that the practices were too long, that the students should not be running year-round…”
What a ridiculous investigation. Makes me question the veracity of the other accusations.
Coaches today have to figure out a way to satisfy the hobby joggers/parents while not negatively impacting a competitive team culture. Especially when everything is a no cut sport in this day and age.
Kelsey Chmiel did very well in college. 3rd at nationals can’t be that bad
You point out a single athlete. The vast majority flame out very early in college, if they make it that far.
I coached at a New England college for 21 years, retired in 2021. I can only recall 1 Saratoga runner coming to our school in that time. She was not a top runner for Saratoga, did a different sport in the winter. She did fantastic in college on the D2 level, 2x qualifier to NCAA XC Nationals.
“Also in 1994, the district hired Dr. Eugene Long to study the track and field program. That summer, he told the district that the practices were too long, that the students should not be running year-round…”
What a ridiculous investigation. Makes me question the veracity of the other accusations.
Coaches today have to figure out a way to satisfy the hobby joggers/parents while not negatively impacting a competitive team culture. Especially when everything is a no cut sport in this day and age.
Are you questioning the veracity of him shoving a student or him tying another student to his car?
I've heard stories of the Kranicks being physical with students and verbally abusive to them as well over the years.
A report investigating allegations of an abusive culture in Saratoga Springs school athletics has concluded that the district acted appropriately in most instances, but said that “effective oversight” was not always in place...
The student-athletes who run cross country for the Saratoga Blue Streaks have always been able to outrun their competition, what they haven’t been able to ou...
“Also in 1994, the district hired Dr. Eugene Long to study the track and field program. That summer, he told the district that the practices were too long, that the students should not be running year-round…”
What a ridiculous investigation. Makes me question the veracity of the other accusations.
Coaches today have to figure out a way to satisfy the hobby joggers/parents while not negatively impacting a competitive team culture. Especially when everything is a no cut sport in this day and age.
Are you questioning the veracity of him shoving a student or him tying another student to his car?
I've heard stories of the Kranicks being physical with students and verbally abusive to them as well over the years.
I suppose I’m questioning whether they actually did shove a kid (sort of believable) or drag them behind a truck (not at all believable). C’mon, if they found a doctor who came to the conclusion that runners shouldn’t be running year round then they easily could have made up other accusations.
Why are distance runners, whom compete in one of the toughest sports, so apt to report or side with accusations of abuse? I guarantee the football players have had their fair share of physical and mental abuse…lock those coaches up as well!
Are you questioning the veracity of him shoving a student or him tying another student to his car?
I've heard stories of the Kranicks being physical with students and verbally abusive to them as well over the years.
I suppose I’m questioning whether they actually did shove a kid (sort of believable) or drag them behind a truck (not at all believable). C’mon, if they found a doctor who came to the conclusion that runners shouldn’t be running year round then they easily could have made up other accusations.
Why are distance runners, whom compete in one of the toughest sports, so apt to report or side with accusations of abuse? I guarantee the football players have had their fair share of physical and mental abuse…lock those coaches up as well!
Yes, Jefe. Lock up those coaches as well.
Or at least conduct a fair investigation and follow through with enforcements. 35 years of complaints? 35 years of saying "yeah we'll get to it"? This wasn't one helicopter parent. This wasn't one soft kid. If allegations build and build through the years, usually there is something there.
The whole "they should just deal with it and be tough" mentality only protects people who abuse. An extreme example would be the Larry Nassar case. Nassar also had a boatload of allegations through the years. The Police, CPS, USA gymnastics, MSU Gymnastics, Twistars and the Karolyis all knew about it. All heard complaints. All did nothing. Then it all blew up.
You really think that many people are lying? You think that many are "just soft"?
Based on the donations and the comments, I would say that Art and Linda have positively impacted a lot of people through the years. Baseless is a word that comes to mind for this trashing of them. /thread
The school superintendent made a statement yesterday that there was absolutely nothing wrong with tying a student to a car and having sprint to try and keep up with it, so I don’t think anything is happening to the Kranicks.
Based on the donations and the comments, I would say that Art and Linda have positively impacted a lot of people through the years. Baseless is a word that comes to mind for this trashing of them. /thread
here's a chaser. Found this on Facebook, nearly 20 years old. read some of the comments on it. Some are silly, and some are more serious.
"oh art and Linda making everyone miserable for your own success"
"i like that this group is dedicated to EVERYONE who has ever crossed paths with them. it's like a support group for post-traumatic stress."
"art kranick is the only one who could make a tough kid like N.G. cry"
lets see it all started in 7th grade everyone knows that he cant teach science.. then there was the whole your not injured run it off... then that really annoying voice screaming pick it up.. but ide have to say that if were were a non distance runner u were on their bad side 99.9% of the time so pretty much if ur still on the team at saratoga high.. well that sucks stick with kearns or spackman good luck"
"It upsets me that Art Kranick is teaching gym at Caroline St. (ups for 2nd graders).For all of you who went there and remember Coach its ridiculous"
Plenty of abusers have people who will support them. That doesn't mean they should not be held accountable for the people they hurt.
Based on the donations and the comments, I would say that Art and Linda have positively impacted a lot of people through the years. Baseless is a word that comes to mind for this trashing of them. /thread
here's a chaser. Found this on Facebook, nearly 20 years old. read some of the comments on it. Some are silly, and some are more serious.
"oh art and Linda making everyone miserable for your own success"
"i like that this group is dedicated to EVERYONE who has ever crossed paths with them. it's like a support group for post-traumatic stress."
"art kranick is the only one who could make a tough kid like N.G. cry"
lets see it all started in 7th grade everyone knows that he cant teach science.. then there was the whole your not injured run it off... then that really annoying voice screaming pick it up.. but ide have to say that if were were a non distance runner u were on their bad side 99.9% of the time so pretty much if ur still on the team at saratoga high.. well that sucks stick with kearns or spackman good luck"
"It upsets me that Art Kranick is teaching gym at Caroline St. (ups for 2nd graders).For all of you who went there and remember Coach its ridiculous"
Plenty of abusers have people who will support them. That doesn't mean they should not be held accountable for the people they hurt.
The school superintendent made a statement yesterday that there was absolutely nothing wrong with tying a student to a car and having sprint to try and keep up with it, so I don’t think anything is happening to the Kranicks.
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