Jakob Ingebrigtsen…what went wrong?

He raced superbly, the only thing 'wrong', is expectations of himself, and track fans.

Losing? He got second in a class field — a SILVER MEDAL in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPs. Maybe you haven’t noticed.

kerr was just the better man that day.

He's to blame for that. His antics during the semi were ok because he back it up. But now he looks like a clown because he wasn't able to back up his over confidence. If he wants the shine when he wins, he needs to take it on the chin when he doesn't.

That's a 3.29 front running, world champs silver medalist clown

Excellent athlete. Still a clown.

When favorites lose its always because they aren't "100% healthy". It is never because someone else is better on the day.

Jakob would consider he lost. So would most others.

I do agree he wasn't 100% - he didn't look it and didn't run like it. And despite that he still won silver, ran under 3.30 in a championship final and won silver. And it's not like he had the doors blown off him or anything.

But we know his strength and in what scenario he is almost impossible to beat. And these types of races are extremely tough, even for him, to replicate those scripts by himself. He might get extremely fortunate and have a Tim C tow him through 1200m in 2.47, but this is really unlikely - especially now. I think his window for success in these (championship) style races is much smaller than we think.

Just sayin if he wants to consistently win 1500 championships…Got beat by two Brits, at worlds, that are both faster at the 800 than he is. He’s vulnerable…

The loss to Wightman was one thing, but a follow-up loss to Kerr leaves a very difficult to clean stain. He brings all sorts of attention with his bravado, so he'll have to do something special to redirect his legacy. One more loss in a 1500 WC will be a dagger for him in comparison to other greats.

The only expectation was an outright win. Tactically, he ran to guarantee a medal. He pulled a Tim.

How about this much easier to digest fact - pacing takes a lot out of you. He zapped himself leading the whole way. That's how it works with tactics like this.

If racing superbly means not winning , I concur.

In terms of what went wrong: attitude, complete lack of respect for his competitors, humility, personal assessment of his own ability, that attitude again, lack of finishing kick, tactical awareness, ability to run without pacemakers, arrogance, lack of self-awareness, being a poor loser………

The main lesson for Jakob to learn from this is humility. To remain the best it's critical to have irrational self belief, but if you can't keep excuses to yourself and admit your mistakes when you lose then you don't grow. I am sure deep down he really does believe he's the best 1500 runner in the world, which is fine, but then what a great opportunity to look in the mirror and think about what you could have done better rather than bellyache about not being 100%. Who the heck feels 100% in most races? He's still quite immature.

Looking at the season as a whole, it's really hard to focus on both running fast times and winning championship races. The tactical and phycological shift required is huge. He needs to get it through his head that his ability to hold high speed for longer is his best weapon. But when you are humble and respect the competition, you can appreciate the fact that you also need to put a few meters on the field to pull off a long frontrunning approach. The likes of Kerr and Whitman aren't just going to let you win. Pretend all you want that these guys aren't at your level, but they'll still jump on any opportunity to outckick you in a race.

He's won a few, Olympics, multiple Euros, etc, often as part of doubles. Says himself that 1500m isn't his best distance but is the one he enjoys most.

Pretty amazing athlete - I hope he changes his post-loss interviews to something like "Very disappointed as I really wanted to win that one, I hate losing. Still, a World Silver isn't bad. Fair play to (Josh/Jake), he was the best man on the day and deserved the win. I'll get him next time!".

Doing so would make his life easier I think.

Kerr did not close the final in 52. Jakob hit the bell in 2:35.89, with Kerr right next to him in 2:36.0. That means Kerr's last 400m was 53.3. The official splits supplied by WA have been wrong on a few occasions. In the Race Analysis PDF it has Kerr's 1100m split as 2:36.61, some 0.7secs behind Jakob, which is clearly wrong as they was less than a metre between them! In fact all the athletes' splits (apart from Ingebrigtsen's) are wrong for 1100m.
It has Laros as being in 11th place at the bell (when he was actually 3rd, a metre behind Kerr) in 2:38.29, and as being in 5th place at 1200m in 2:49.90. So accordingly he ran that 100m on the curve in 11.61secs!!!!!

Nothing. He started the with all the runners and took second.

This thing called competition is why athletes in all sports train. They lace them on a particular day and time and go at it. One will win and one will lose. This competition thing will continue with or without fans. It’s human nature.

WOW! Looking back, this thread is full of r*tarded takes. So many people here trying to give "advice" to a guy with an olympic gold at 20 years old.