New Gen Camp = Misogyny Training for High Schoolers

This is not America's best band. I'm not a fan of frat-ska, but the wild and messy energy in this performance is winning.

I have grown disinterested in Chris Chavez and Citius Mag; however seeing these attics from another running “influencer” account makes me appreciate them a whole lot more.

I always thought he was behind the "Hayward Magic" account and cities seemed to cut ties with them.

100%.

I feel like this has all been blown a bit out of proportion. If we separate the photos from the comments made in response to this emma girl, they ARE artistically advanced and have a very stylistic element that is fresh and appealing. Throughout the posts I saw that seemed to have been a part of this series, the photographer was clearly aiming towards a storytelling element that depicts a consistent character who plays the role of someone who is getting bullied. It is strange to me that Emma is going on a rampage about these photos as if they are not simply portraying very symbolic and dated scenes of an early 2000s high school scene and are instead portraying a ruthless campaign against women? Where in the world did she pull that from?

I also saw (before the comments were deleted on the post) that the camper who was the subject in these photos expressed that she was not uncomfortable and that the photos were intended to be conceptually creative. I am confused as to how Emma got away with changing the entire narrative of this shoot while gaining clout for herself. The model even voiced that she was fine with the shoot, so why continue to push this narrative of misogyny? Also keep in mind, this shoot was created by a young photographer who was pulling inspiration from iconic y2k movies. That being said, nothing can excuse the homophobic comments made in response to Emma's initial criticism.

Yet, I personally do not think this account was run by the photographer. Anyone who has ever had a burner account knows that rule # 1 is to never follow yourself. I doubt that this kid who was the photographer and frankly seems to have an intelligent and creative mind would be so naïve to follow himself. I think it was probably some other troll high school boy that thought he could gain some clout by commenting atrocious statements. I would assume that he followed the photographer as an act of alliance to New Gen and against Emma.

I personally have some concerns about Emma and how she has seemed to benefit from picking fights with a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds. Why did she feel the need to make a whole infographic dissing on the entire brand and hilariously include a picture of just herself LOL. What a joke. It also seems weird that she had no issues whatsoever when New Gen did a shoot with her partner depicting a party scene involving alcohol. How is she going to say that a shoot done by kids WITH other kids is glamorizing abuse but isn't going to comment on the fact that the shoot with her partner could be seen as glamorizing partying and alcohol to an audience of young teens?? Not to mention the fact that Nikki is far more influential in the running scene than these high school artists who are just trying to create original content.

As I was looking through Emma's instagram I saw on one of her pinned posts, a person who commented a genuine question about the relevance of Emma's sexuality to her standing as a runner (since she has seemed to build her entire brand upon being a gay athlete at BYU). The commenter seemed to be asking out of curiosity and instead of kindly informing/educating him, she responds with "Shut up Cody." I am seriously questioning why so many people are quick to take this woman's side when she is obviously always looking for any opportunity to stir the pot, make herself the victim, and then profit off of it. I would think that she has better things to do than get wrapped up in a creative photoshoot done by high schoolers. How bizarre!!

^ I would like to read what you wrote but have you ever heard of paragraphs?

i cant get over that the poster on page 2 who claimed to be a runner at the camp said that it wasn't just a running camp and they learned about NIL/reaching out to companies/branding....

You are there to learn how to market yourselves to potential sponsors in 2023 and this is the image you want to put out???? Might want to rethink who you are taking lessons from.

I've always thought it was crazy that this group, who's been able to gain sponsors in a sport notoriously hard to be financially stable in, has totally devolved from the content that made them famous into creating "art".

It appears that Cooper is associated with New Gen and his boyfriend, Evert Silva, is as well. I have also lost a bit of respect for Cole Hocker because I think he is also associated with this group. I always that that Cole was an OK guy. I guess not.

Anyone who posts an “infographic” making such accusations such as promoting violence against young women, racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc. and proceeding to put a smiling self promoting picture of oneself at the end can not be taken seriously. I find the vibe around new gen to be particularly off putting and inappropriate at times, but Emma has clearly made this about her with the disturbing attention she is taking to teenagers in the comments.

the violence against young women part you are right about. I think thats a definite stretch. However there are videos of the head guy for New Gen being homophobic, misogynist, and laughing at a racist interpretation to his question.

Aaaand they deleted their half-hearted apology post.

Was this really just a camp where a bunch of 17-18 year old hs kids were overseen by a few early 20s guys with no significant real world experience being accountable and in positions of authority over others? And if so, wtf was On thinking sponsoring this situation? I sure hope they did their due diligence and there were some actual experienced adults in charge and overseeing all of this.

Here's the link to a screenshot showing that Ryder Lee was the lone follower of the @jamarcus.omellow account. It was taken at 11:14am yesterday, 7/27/2023, before things really started blowing up online.

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The only two accounts that "Jamarcus" followed were Ryder and an account called Klecker Farms (didn't seem to have any relationship to Joe Klecker; looked like another meme/burner page).

"Jamarcus" jumped into the New Gen comment section very soon after Emma made her initial comment calling the photos "disappointing." If that account wasn't run by someone connected to New Gen and the bullying photos, how would it have seen the post, seen Emma's comment, and got to trolling so quickly? It wasn't following the New Gen account. We seriously think that someone who has enough "alliance" with New Gen to jump in and make homophobic comments in their defense doesn't even follow the New Gen page? They just happened to have found Emma's comment on a page they don't follow as soon as the fracas started under those photos? Or is it more likely that Ryder runs the account, was mad at Emma's comment, and wanted to use it as a way to say things to her he knew he shouldn't say with his real name attached?

I mean, sure, anything's possible. If the account isn't Ryder's, the next most logical option is that it's run by someone who hates him and was trying to make him look bad. But the account has been around for years, and whoever runs it would have had to have miraculous timing to have their commenting fingers ready at the exact right time that Ryder's ego may have felt bruised, and would have had to magically know where on the internet to go to get to work.

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct one. Ryder probably isn't actually that bright or doesn't actually care that much about people thinking he's racist and homophobic. I can't believe I'm spending the time to type all this out, but the idea that it isn't Ryder just seems so ludicrous based on the observable evidence, so I felt strange letting your conjecture go.

Throwback video, where Ben idolizes his time getting drunk as a high schooler at meets, and then ironically complains about creepy old people interviewing High Schoolers....

Yes but at least CEO broke 4 min mile once. We can't crap on that. And I always thought his Vanilla Ice persona was kind of tongue in cheek. Yeah kind of stupid and not entertaining but fairly harmless.

this camp just sounds like an excuse for the group of 25 yr old guys to hang out with teenage girls. when I was a camper ~8 years ago I remember I thought my counselors were the coolest people on the planet- year after year. I so hope these kids aren’t thinking the same about these guys. I’d be so uncomfortable if I were a parent learning what my kids have “been up to” at new gen. Never mind everything we’re not seeing/aware of.

“Alpha males only. No beta males.” Is worse than the “misogyny” new gen posted. Everett “Daddy’s money” Smulders is kind of the worst.
it’s easy to train hard when your dad foots the bill for your home, wedding, bike, gear, travel, etc… he fell out of relevance and is back at his old high school begging to attention.

Although these are decently relevant details, the fact of the matter is that we have NO idea if that is true or not. It seems extreme to look at this as if it is 100% a fact that this burner account belongs to the photographer. What if this burner account belonged to the photographer's friend, or another camper? Which I actually think is likely since there were many other comments being made from other burner accounts at the exact same time. When I looked at the comments it appeared as though the more well thought out response that was posted from Ryder account was posted at the exact time the homophobic ones were posted from the burner accounts. Seems to me like a stretch for this kid to be able to comment both a well thought out response from his real account as well as multiple homophobic comments from these troll accounts all within a matter of a minute or two. I think you guys are being extreme by acting so certain this is all one kid. You don't have any solid proof other than your screenshot.