Suspect arrested in connection to the University of Idaho murders

Sons Of Anarchy fan?

Unless he's assigned to clean the gym with another prisoner and left unsupervised.

He's toast.

He will not be getting a chance to get a work detail. That's for jailbirds that are working on time off for good behavior. Normally every one day worked equals three days served.

Why all the vitriol toward this dude? He is a sick incel and only in degree different from some of you.

I was referencing Dahmer.

After reading the affidavit, this looks like a case where the only way the prosecution can lose it is if they blow the trial (a la the OJ Simpson prosecutors). I think establishing "reasonable doubt" will be very difficult. How can you explain the presence of his cell phone near the murder scene TWELVE times in the three months prior? Once or twice maybe, but twelve times? And always in the late evening or early morning? And his car caught on surveillance slowly circling the block I think three times in the minutes before the murders and then observed speeding away at 4:20 and his cell phone indicating the vehicle was traveling to Pullman? And, of course, his DNA on the knife sheath that he left in the room?

A couple details changed from what was originally reported. Up until now, I think most people thought that the two murdered girls were in their own bedrooms on the third floor, the third murdered girl and her boyfriend were together in a second-floor bedroom, and the two surviving girls were in their bedrooms on the first floor. Instead, the two third-floor girls were sleeping in the same room (probably just fell asleep after drinking at the bar; they did not share the room), the boyfriend and girlfriend were together in one second-floor bedroom, and one of the survivors was in another second-floor bedroom. She would have been directly under the room where the two girls were murdered and just down the hall from the other murder location. The biggest change, however, was that the one girl seems to have been awake at the time. She received a door dash delivery from Jack-in-the-Box at 4:00 and was on TikTok on her phone at 4:12. The murderer's car pulled up around 4:04 and left at 4:20. She seems to have briefly engaged in conversation with him. She would have been the first one murdered (based on the surviving roommate's statement) and the dog started barking (presumably at the time of the third-floor attack) at 4:17; therefore, she must have been murdered between 4:12 and 4:17, a very small window for someone to fall asleep.

What I find amazing is:

(1) She didn't scream when he pulled out the knife and began attacking her. He didn't catch her sound asleep where he could easily cover her mouth and restrain her before beginning to stab her; she seems to have been awake. Even one short scream would have caused everyone in the house to wake up.

(2) One of the surviving roommates (on the second floor) opened her door three times after hearing several strange things and actually saw the killer walking towards her and right past her to leave through the kitchen glass door. Based on the diagram of the house, he must have been within a couple feet of her as he entered the foyer to go to the kitchen. He either did not see her (unlikely given the very close proximity) or saw her and decided not to kill her. Why would a murderer who knows a witness observed him at the crime scene not get rid of that witness, even if the person was not an original target? He just killed four people; killing one more is not going to make his punishment any worse.

(3) Why did this roommate not call 911 immediately or at least go check on her roommates after she was certain the man had left? I am not blaming her at all for locking herself in her room because I am sure she was terrified at seeing a stranger in her house at 4:00, but after some time has passed, I think almost everyone would go talk to their roommates to ask them if they saw the man, if they knew who he was, and most importantly, if they are OK.

I look forward to more info being released in the coming days that may provide answers to these questions.

The assumed route of the killer after the second murder with "X" marking where the survivor would have been standing looking out her door when she saw him leaving.

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As I understand it, it was basically a party house and so probably not uncommon for unknown people to be present at random times. I read somewhere that she "froze" when she saw him, suggesting that she was afraid, but maybe she was just startled. Though I would be curious to hear her full statement. Unless you hear a blood-curdling scream or something similar, I think it's pretty hard to make the leap that something untoward had happened in the moment. She might have just thought that he was a friend or acquaintance of one of her roommates.

Wearing a mask and dark clothing?

Only 2 weeks after Halloween…no of course you’re right that this would scare the shlt out of most young women.

The judge put a gag order in place, so unless someone breaches it, we won't be getting much of anything until this goes to trial, which will take months or even a year or more.

Does anybody still think they don't have the right guy?

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He is not rich and is using a public defender. The public defender is not monetarily incentivized with a long legal process.

Based on what I know, which is not much, I'm guessing he is offered and takes a plea bargain for life in prison without parole vs. death penalty. That saves taxpayers and everyone the cost and burden of going through an extended trial and appeals (which are automatically required in death penalty cases, I think). Wrap it up. Take the slam dunk. Move on.

General comments I feel like posting:

1. I don't think you can conclude from the Affidavit that a genealogy database was consulted. I think that is being misreported. Page 19 of the Affidavit only says that DNA from the knife sheath and DNA from the garbage at Kohberger's parents' house "identified a male as not being excluded as the biological father of Suspect Profile" and then something about 99.99998% chance. None of it is exactly well worded, but I think they are saying the DNA found in the garbage shows that the father of the guy who left his DNA on the sheath lives in the Albrightsville, PA house. There is no mention of a genealogy database and you wouldn't need one to do that direct comparison.

2. The reports that he stalked or drove by the victim's house 12 times in the previous months seem misreported and confused. According to the Affidavit, Kohberger's phone "utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to the area of 1122 King Road on at least twelve occasions prior November 13, 2022." But there is nothing in the Affidavit regarding the scope of cellular coverage in Moscow or around the King Road area. So when a phone utilizes cellular resources that cover the King Road area, it could well be that the phone is in downtown Moscow, which is 1.2 miles away from 1122 King Road. That's where all the bars are and a more likely reason that Kohberger's phone was in cellular coverage in the "late evening and early morning" twelve times in the last 3 months (e.g., every weekend). I hope we learn how wide cell coverage is (i.e., where the cell towers are) for King Road to understand how close he was going to King Road all those times. We have no idea right now, and everyone believing the Affidavit says he drove right by the King Road house 12 times has been misled.

3. I can't see how anyone isn't puzzled by the behavior of roommate D.M. reported in the Affidavit. She opened her bedroom door 3 times at around 4am out of concern that something was wrong, and the last time she opened the door, a guy with a mask and dark clothes was rushing to exit the house, and it seems all Mortenson did was go back to bed and, apparently, call the cops 8 hours later when her roommate don't arise. I hope we get her explanation for that. The speculation people put on it is ridiculous.

4. I'll bet a lot of people are surprised to find out just how many cameras are out there watching and recording your public moves, even in a small town.

5. The Door Dash delivery at 4am is interesting/strange. Did the driver see anyone around? He was at King Road at almost exactly the same time as Kohberger. Was Kernodle eating Door Dash when Kohberger entered her room? It seems to have narrowed Kohberger's timeline to about 15 minutes in the house.

6. I hope we find out why Kohberger went to this King Road house. Hard to believe he targeted it at random that night (but he was driving around in another residential neighborhood over a mile away a half hour earlier). My guess is that he knew who at least one roommate was, had encountered her in some way (online, bars, cruising campus), figure out where she lived, and developed some sick desire to kill her. I'd also guess the police know why, and will do all they can to keep that information confidential forever.

I'm just waiting for the brojos to write about this guy's posting habits on this forum. I know they already have that data by now.