It is entirely true. Recruiting does NOT absolve academic requirements. It is the very thing that limits UCLA recruiting across the board. Stop lying to yourself and these families. There is a reason very few sprinters go to UCLA, and it is not for lack of effort. Take your ass to class!
UCLA is obviously a much better university than NAU. Not in same league.
I don’t see why the Youngs + Aaron would not go to UCLA.
Who is coaching NAU now?
The NP guys that committed to NAU just announced that they are transferring to UCLA. Nico is also in the portal and transferring.
NAU is done...
That's not totally unconceivable. Think about it. Leo and Lex are UCLA bound for sure, Colin and Aaron S. have some serious decisions to make. Nico may be too far in, but it wouldn't surprise me if he transfers. That being said, Mike Smith has a set gig in Flagstaff with proven D-1 results.
I don’t see why I can’t have four guys under 13 minutes - potential quote from future Sean Brosnan
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4:00 is not fast it’s just not fast for a college mile.
The HEAD track coach at UCLA is still a sprint guy. Which means Brosnan will likely only get a few scholarships for distance. This is in contrast to NAU and Colorado that have distance focused HEAD coaches. So they throw most their scholarships at distance. That said, if Brosnan is successful in XC at UCLA then he truly is a great coach.
You're missing the potentially massive amount of NIL money the high profile school could line up for recruits. It's not all about scholarships anymore. Matter of fact, if I were guiding a program at a school like UCLA, scholarships would just be the gravy on the biscuit.
Brosnan will not sit around and allow his program to be marginalized. His hire says so. He will get around 2 scholarships, which is normal, and proper. And that is enough to build a very good program at UCLA. When he starts winning, it will dictate a shift in resources. Plus, the other areas are not doing a damn thing, especially the HC area where his best kids all transferred.
"He will get around 2 scholarships"........ please advance my knowledge and explain what that means? That seems like a paltry amount that you couldn't build anything with.
Cash cow broke it down in general. But never forget it is only 12.6 on the men's side. There is no way around that. I know people like to dream about the good old days but resources will always be limited.
It is entirely true. Recruiting does NOT absolve academic requirements. It is the very thing that limits UCLA recruiting across the board. Stop lying to yourself and these families. There is a reason very few sprinters go to UCLA, and it is not for lack of effort. Take your ass to class!
Dude, you're delusional if you think the football and basketball players at UCLA all meet the non-athlete academic requirements. As for runners, I'm not going to name names and embarrass them, but I have direct personal knowledge that some of the current runners on the roster are not in fact -- umm, how should I put this nicely? -- "academically-oriented."
It is entirely true. Recruiting does NOT absolve academic requirements. It is the very thing that limits UCLA recruiting across the board. Stop lying to yourself and these families. There is a reason very few sprinters go to UCLA, and it is not for lack of effort. Take your ass to class!
Yes and no. Granted, students have to have reasonably decent grades but not top grades if they're in demand by a coach. Witness USC. They have been consistently getting top sprinters over the last few years and their admission standards are roughly the same as UCLA.
Based on what kind of training Brosnan does to high schoolers, he really should have been coaching college in the first place.
As long as he doesn't have to coach the athletes that he previously ran into the ground in HS, he should do ok
Like Nico who just ran 13:11 as a 19 year old this year? This lame mentality that anyone running 65 MPW in HS is peaked, is part of the reason why America gets whooped on the world stage in distance events. Jakob has been running 80 mpw since he was 12, the East Africans run back and forth from school everyday since they were 5 years old.
Its certainly not for everyone, but we need to stop the babying of HS runners who are motivated and willing to work.
His wife will almost certainly take over the program, as she is currently his assistant. There is no shot Brosnan is leaving the most talented team in HS history to the hands of a rando. He'll probably still be writing workouts too.
Newbury Park is about a hour drive to UCLA (in typical commute traffic). If I were going to coach UCLA I'd move closer. Maybe they could split the difference and life in the middle, but I would not want to drive up the 405 into the valley every day.
It is entirely true. Recruiting does NOT absolve academic requirements. It is the very thing that limits UCLA recruiting across the board. Stop lying to yourself and these families. There is a reason very few sprinters go to UCLA, and it is not for lack of effort. Take your ass to class!
Yes and no. Granted, students have to have reasonably decent grades but not top grades if they're in demand by a coach. Witness USC. They have been consistently getting top sprinters over the last few years and their admission standards are roughly the same as UCLA.
Track and Field student-athletes, particularly distance runners tend to do well academically, so I don't see any issues with recruitment to UCLA. For every top prospect that is lacking academically that Brosnan might lose, he might be able to attract two or three times as many due to UCLA's academic reputation. NAU's mediocre academic reputation (full disclosure: my Masters degree is from NAU) is probably a greater negative than UCLA's higher standards.
As for scholarship amounts, it really depends on what Anderson and UCLA administration wants as program goals. If you just a distance "guru" like Brosnan, do you really give him a small amount of scholarships? Would Brosnan even take that? If UCLA wants to have athletes score at NCAA, then even with something as small as 2 or 3 scholarships could yield maybe four very talented runners with championship ability. If they have any academic aid, stack that with athletic aid and they could be on or near a full. And that doesn't even include how NIL money could sweeten the deal. UCLA has the Westwood Exchange to help businesses connect and work with UCLA student-athletes. I don't see anything like that at NAU.
Finally, while most student-athletes don't really care about a coach's track record for development or even who they've coached but rather care about how much scholarship money they can get, or whether they had a signing ceremony or can brag they are D1, the type of athletes I'm assuming Brosnan wants to work with, and that might fit the potential UCLA model of recruiting those who will score at NCAA, enough will care about coaching, and can see the success he had at NP. If he can put together a small group of student athletes scoring quality points at NCAA off of 2 - 3 scholarships, his stock will rise.
I'm excited to see what he can do. I hope it goes wells and forces the industry reconsider what experience one needs when hiring. Brosnan having success, along with Diljeet Taylor (jumping from D2 to BYU), and others might break up the repetitive, uninspiring, recycling of D1 assistants and head coaches, or the progression from glorified to clipboard holder to assistant coach with the same tried ideas that are stale and lack innovation.
His wife will almost certainly take over the program, as she is currently his assistant. There is no shot Brosnan is leaving the most talented team in HS history to the hands of a rando. He'll probably still be writing workouts too.
Newbury Park is about a hour drive to UCLA (in typical commute traffic). If I were going to coach UCLA I'd move closer. Maybe they could split the difference and life in the middle, but I would not want to drive up the 405 into the valley every day.
And once you get there load the team into a van to drive on where you are going to run. Westwood sucks and Griffith Park will get old. Not sure this is a place to make a superpower program. But this could be a definite stepping stone opportunity.
They have a couple of 45.0 runners, so the 400m is covered.
if Brosnan can bring a couple of the 3:47/3:48/3:49 guys to sub 3:40 then they have a very good DMR. They have 7 guys who ran between 3:47 and 3:49. It’s as if they were training as a group to run 3:48.
Best case scenario is they become a very distant 2nd fiddle in the official unofficial California collegiate XC rankings to the powerhouse up the coast in SLO. AbSolute worst case scenario is they start getting get beat by Cal regularly.