the macdaddy og yoo wrote:
Have we ever seen this type of dramatic improvement (at the professional level) while consistently decreasing training load?
You mean tapering? You never heard of tapering?
the macdaddy og yoo wrote:
Have we ever seen this type of dramatic improvement (at the professional level) while consistently decreasing training load?
You mean tapering? You never heard of tapering?
Concorde District Alum wrote:
the macdaddy og yoo wrote:
Have we ever seen this type of dramatic improvement (at the professional level) while consistently decreasing training load?
You mean tapering? You never heard of tapering?
You don’t taper over a full season, only over a week or two.
bsrggsbsgr wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Because they are juicing. That's what pro's do.
Then why do we care? If all the pros are juicing it is tough to complain when one juicer beats another. Seriously compare Kastors photos in college and as a pro and she has the same type of weight loss. Holds true for pretty much all. We arent talking a ton of weight but going from 20% bf to 15% by dropping 5lbs is really noticeable.
You ask why should we care. I don't. I expect doping to be the norm now. Those who care are those who come up with most contrived arguments that yet another likely doped athlete will be clean.
Keira said on the live chat just now that the doping suspicions hurt but she kinda understands it because ya'll don't really know her. She says that she one one of the first elite runners to put everything out there as far as sharing all of her training. Says that she's been tested four times in the last 6 weeks.
My other observation from this chat is that currently only 161 people were watching. This sport needs help.
JO Coach wrote:
Keira said on the live chat just now that the doping suspicions hurt but she kinda understands it because ya'll don't really know her. She says that she one one of the first elite runners to put everything out there as far as sharing all of her training. Says that she's been tested four times in the last 6 weeks.
My other observation from this chat is that currently only 161 people were watching. This sport needs help.
The lack of awareness of some runners in this sport is astounding. Either they are really unaware of the rest of the sport and are stupid, or they themselves are doping too. Keira had to know that people are going to be suspicious about this AR and her association with certain coaches and Nike.
Correct response: “I’m aware that people will question any American record these days, particularly from someone my age. I can’t control what people think and can only continue to work to the best of my ability to prove that I do it the right way.”
JO Coach wrote:
Keira said on the live chat just now that the doping suspicions hurt but she kinda understands it because ya'll don't really know her. She says that she one one of the first elite runners to put everything out there as far as sharing all of her training. Says that she's been tested four times in the last 6 weeks.
My other observation from this chat is that currently only 161 people were watching. This sport needs help.
Doping makes people cynical. It's so common now the public doesn't care about another "record".
And despite her claims, we also know that testing rarely catches anyone. "Only the dumb and the careless get caught" - WADA.
I didn't watch because I've seen this all before and I'm not buying it. Eddy, Regina, Kevin Castille, etc.
No Farah wrote:
I agree. Surprise nobody torched the woman that won all 4 Disney races last week.
I'm cynical about pro runners but I think her Dopey was clean.
rodds23@yahoo.comwrote:
Um, excuse me, but her coach worked under Salazar. That's a HUGE red flag. Salazar had ALL of his athletes doing some from of doping or TUES. 2nd, nobody improves with such jumps that fast and not when you get to running 2:22. It has nothing to do with competing year round..masking simply is employed. What enchanted castle do you live in?
I think she's clean but after the Shelby incident I can see why people would question pros on this.
2:28 Chicago-October.
2:19 Houston January.
10 minute drop ?
*stipe wrote:
Just facts from Kevin Beck
https://kevinbeck.substack.com/p/the-real-keira-damato-story-gaining
Beck is a great writer, but is too long-winded. I think he's fast too (sub-33 10k I think?) but a bit pompous. But at least he calls out some in the running media if they do something stupid.
If I recall...Eddy ran Boston on Monday then Carlsbad on Sunday.
race history wrote:
A random sample of D'amato's races in recent years. Marathons highlighted in bold.
10/28/12 Marine Corps Marathon - 3:20:24 - age 28
7/14/13 Missoula Marathon - 3:49:49 - age 28
3/19/17 Shamrock Marathon - 3:14:54 - age 32
4/30/17 Quarantown 10K - 38:17 - age 32
11/11/17 Richmond Marathon - 2:47:00 - age 33
2/11/18 Sweetheart 8K - 30:01 - age 33
4/16/18 Boston Marathon - 2:56:44 - age 33
6/16/18 Grandma's Marathon - 2:44:03 - age 33
11/10/18 Richmond Marathon - 2:40:56 - age 34
2/17/19 Sweetheart 8K - 29:15 - age 34
3/17/19 Lucky Leprechaun 5K - 16:38 - age 34
3/30/19 Missions 5K - 17:08 - age 34
4/13/19 Monument Avenue 10K - 33:37 - age 34
5/19/19 Bust the Banks Trail HM - 1:30:17 - age 34
6/8/19 Lawyers Have Heart 10K - 33:53 - age 34
7/4/19 Peachtree Road Race 10K - 33:38 - age 34
8/24/19 Patrick Henry HM - 1:15:49 - age 34
9/15/19 Rock 'n' Roll HM (Philadelphia) - 1:13:30 - age 34
9/29/19 Berlin Marathon - 2:34:55 - age 34
11/16/19 Richmond 8K - 25:59 - age 35
1/1/20 First Day 5K - 16:08 - age 35
1/19/20 Houston HM - 1:10:01 - age 35
2/29/20 Olympic Trials Marathon - 2:34:23 - age 35
4/1/20 Quarantown 10K - 34:00 - age 35
10/28/20 Michigan Pro HM - 1:08:57 - age 36
12/20/20 Marathon Project - 2:22:56 - age 36
7/23/21 Pony Pasture 5K - 16:42 - age 36
10/10/21 Chicago Marathon - 2:28:22 - age 36
11/13/21 Richmond 8K - 24:47 - age 37
11/25/21 Manchester Road Race 4.748-mi - 23:49 - age 37
12/5/21 Mortgage Network HM - 1:07:55 - age 37
1/16/22 Houston Marathon - 2:19:12 - age 37
Wow, a 3:24 and a 3:49 in there?
https://richmondmagazine.com/news/features/running-down-a-dream/Uncle P wrote:
Dude, she's a realtor. Have you ever met a dishonest realtor?
This is actually an honest, cool look at her life. She has a great support system of husband, kids, mom and dad to help her.
I'm not envious of her; I think she's actually trying to stay humble as she gets famous. Gotta give her props for that.
jecht wrote:
https://richmondmagazine.com/news/features/running-down-a-dream/Uncle P wrote:
Dude, she's a realtor. Have you ever met a dishonest realtor?
This is actually an honest, cool look at her life. She has a great support system of husband, kids, mom and dad to help her.
I'm not envious of her; I think she's actually trying to stay humble as she gets famous. Gotta give her props for that.
Also, this. I admire her for doing it as well as she can w/o a sponsor.
“I felt like I was sticking it to the man a little, working without a professional sponsor,” she says. “I’ve showed you can do it your way; there’s not just one path up the mountain. I think everyone has something in their life where maybe they didn’t go all in — a woulda, coulda, shoulda thing. I think people are excited to see that I’ve cleared every single hurdle so I can pursue this passion. I hope it inspires them to do whatever that thing is for themselves.”
Dude, she’s sponsored by Nike.
JBaller33 wrote:
Dude, she’s sponsored by Nike.
The quote was before she got the Nike deal.
Don’t know what to make of her late transformation but for the record- according to the USADA database she was only tested once in 2021. Tests right now are meaningless, the random tests between Chicago and Houston would help her story but they’re aren’t any. If she were from any other country we’d be yelling bullsh%;
rekrunner wrote:
I'm familiar with your performance theories, but none of this seems to fit the women's marathon performances.
I didn't mention any theories, just stated some relevant, well established facts, which include women's marathon performances.
comfused wrote:
Don’t know what to make of her late transformation but for the record- according to the USADA database she was only tested once in 2021. Tests right now are meaningless, the random tests between Chicago and Houston would help her story but they’re aren’t any. If she were from any other country we’d be yelling bullsh%;
Yes, and also only once in 2020 (and naturally 0 times in 2019), and those numbers include all USADA tests, in- and out-of-competition.