Boston going with vaccine passports

DanM wrote:

I live 11 miles west of downtown Boston. This means Boston has lost me as a destination for dining and entertainment. Mayors from other cities in the area attended Wu's announcement. Wouldn't surprise me if the city where I live instituted the same rule When cities and towns in Massachusetts enact similar policies, then the drumbeat starts for a statewide law.

"Vaccines" have been available for 371 days. I have not taken one and I have had barely a sniffle in those 371 days.

My wife and I enjoy cooking and eat better at home than at any restaurant. For the price of one restaurant meal, I can make 4 or 5 meals at home that are of higher quality.

Boston's loss is my gain.

Prove it.

Go out and intentionally get COVID and show us how it’s not a big deal and won’t impact your life in any way.

You aren’t brave or wise or special and obviously don’t exist in environments where your health is at risk.

So, you don’t really have any idea what you’re talking about.

Two years in and I know zero people who have been seriously I’ll with Covid. That’s 0/5 close relatives who felt tired for a couple days.

Unfortunate that those mRNA shots have not worked out for you. Did you take a 3rd ? Will you take a 4th ?

Mrs. DanM thinks I'm special.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Remember when they required proof of MMR vaccination to attend school and everyone stopped going to school? I’m sure it will be the same in this case.

Yeah, for school. So tell me how this applies to health pass for groceries and everything else? Did you need MMR every 3-6 months indefinitely?

Remember when they required proof of MMR to shop anywhere? Uh no.

School vaccines confer immunity.

52% of vaccinated adults are worried about becoming seriously ill.

42% of unvaccinated adults are worried about becoming seriously ill.

I am content to be excluded from places filled with the vaccinated. No telling what those neurotic anxiety consumed lunatics are capable of.

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Half of adults, including 52% of vaccinated adults, say they are worried they personally will get seriously sick from the coronavirus, up from 30% in November prior to the news of the omicron variant. Unvaccinated adults remain less concerned with about four in ten (42%) saying they are worried about getting seriously sick from the coronavirus.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-early-omicron-update/

No one can do a risk benefit analysis. It’s like a mass hypnosis. BTW, if one were to get these jabs, do you need to sign a liability waiver? I don’t remember signing a liability waiver to get the MMR.

carmine9 wrote:

pickle breath wrote:

Sorry you fail at life and cannot do something simple like get a vaccine.

I don't really have the patients for dummies like you today.

They are destroying our societies and ruining people's lives and you keep doing what they tell you to do.

The dumbest people often think everyone else is dumb and they are smart. They often think they see through schemes that don’t exist. You are that person. You are an unsalvageable pile of mush if you don’t believe in the effectiveness and safefy of the vaccine at this point. It takes a high-school level background in biology to know that vaccines are both extremely safe and effective. The vaccine consist of a solvent to increase the diffusion of the vaccine and viral spike proteins detached from the virus itself. The vaccine contains no virus and no chips. It was developed by nongovernmental bodies. It has proven extremely effective globally. It is completely free. You think it is a means of government control, but you fail to give a clear logic as to how it will do so. You claim it is ruining lives, but you fail to give examples. In reality, the vaccine is saving lives. It is preventing the grief of lost family members. It is protecting the elderly. And selfish pricks like you, with no scientific backing, choose to make these absurd claims just for the hell of it. Shame on you.

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bad arguments r us wrote:

Yeah, for school. So tell me how this applies to health pass for groceries and everything else?

If measles, mumps and rubella were spreading, mutating and causing serious illness at covid’s level, yes.

bad arguments r us wrote:

Did you need MMR every 3-6 months indefinitely?

Measles, mumps and rubella aren’t evolving at the rate that covid is.

bad arguments r us wrote:

Remember when they required proof of MMR to shop anywhere? Uh no.

First reply answers this.

bad arguments r us wrote:

School vaccines confer immunity.

So does this one. MMR is 87 to 98% effective. The mRNA covid vaccines have similar effectiveness on the earlier strains, and now 70% with Omicron. That’s still very good. It’s a new virus but the fact that almost everyone that’s seriously sick with covid now is unvaccinated tells you that the vaccines are doing their job.

It’s not even just because COVID is evolving fast! Building a durable immune response just takes multiple challenge over a long time frame. 3 doses for a vaccine isn’t shocking or weird, neither is 4. Especially when the first two were spaced sooo closely.

pickle breath wrote:

Sorry you fail at life and cannot do something simple like get a vaccine.

You are a dangerous person. Injecting children (and adults for that matter) with GMO shots that have barely been tested is absolutely bonkers.

Hopefully they haven't totally compromised the voting systems in Boston so you can get her out. In Los Angeles there is no citizen oversight, no way to verify chain of custody or signatures on these new mass mail ballots. These criminals are stealing the city. Don't let it happen to Boston. Get her out. Take your city back. Don't wait.

These aren't vaccines. The CDC had to change their definition of the word 'vaccine' to fit these new products. They're GMO shots that have been tested for only a few months. And all proper versions of this technology were deemed too dangerous to deploy. There has also been mass censorship of dissenting doctors and scientists. Not something you'd expect if it were on the up and up. Not something you'd expect if the downside were something like the least healthy 2% of the population dying a decade early. Look into the side effects, deaths, and complications already reported in young healthy people. You'll be surprised.

Safe? No. More deaths and injuries reported to VAERs with this vaccine in one year than with all other vaccines combined in the past 30 years. How is that safe?

Effective? No. Two shots did not stop the vaxxed from getting Covid so let's do a 3rd. And if you don't know that there will be a 4th (already in some nations), 5th, 6th and more then you have some kind of disorder that prevents you from learning from experience.

Free? Pfizer will gross $35,000,000,000 from the vaccine alone in 2021. Someone is paying for it -- the taxpayer.

I think it's a mean of governmental control? Closing businesses and schools, forcing us to take Big Pharma drugs or be denied access to much of society...no control there.

No evidence the vaccine is saving anyone. That's simply propaganda.

Look, the very people who created the virus, released it on the world, and and are forcing their drug on us, have effectively used fear and propaganda to make society's weak minded to shift the blame to those of us who see thru their nonsense.

Maybe some day you will wake up

2600 bro wrote:

It’s not even just because COVID is evolving fast! Building a durable immune response just takes multiple challenge over a long time frame. 3 doses for a vaccine isn’t shocking or weird, neither is 4. Especially when the first two were spaced sooo closely.

Hey. If the 1st 4 shots don't do it, then surely another 3 or 4 will work, right?

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This is not a cost benefit analysis. In order to prove that these GMO shots are a good idea you need to show:

1. That the long run cost of taking the shots outweighs the long run cost of not taking them. You'd have to do this by age group and by many other factors.

2. You'd have to show that in our extremely corrupt political climate where most of the oversight bodies for medical research and testing are owned and controlled by the companies manufacturing the shots that government intervention in this case (even in cases where and if proven cost effective) would not lead to the production of an infrastructure (say for testing or passports) that would be employed to mandate even more harmful products.

The same bar should have been set for school vaccines. It should have been known that getting on this slippery slope of mandatory vaccinations, even if helpful in the short run, could lead to the mandating of dangerous products and that the regulatory bodies cannot be relied upon to protect us forever. Unfortunately the best mechanism we have for vaccine compliance is a healthy and open pubic scientific debate free of censorship and a marketplace where companies must compete for the business of the customer. Forcing people to buy things is a great way to make those things have poor quality. Usually we're protected from poor quality products through torts, but not in this case.

Certainly doesn't help that those who are advocating mandatory GMO shots:

1) Have not discussed cost benefit at all. (Seriously find me someone on one of these city councils who seems to be weighing multiple cost and benefit short term vs long term assumptions etc...)

2. Have also advocated lockdowns and other anti covid measures that did far more harm than good (again without any cost/benefit analysis).

3. Seem to have similar ultra-rich donors and backers.

A lot of us saw this 'vaccine' passport thing being the endgame nearly two years ago. None of this makes sense for a virus that at worst kills the unhealthiest 2% of people 10 years early, and now with treatments and mutations doesn't even do that. None of it pencils out.

DanM wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Remember when you were not a slave?

The people who have taken vaccines are frightened of the long term effects of their decision. They cling to establishment lies about how their bodies are better equipped to handle Covid than an unvaccinated person when that is clearly and unequivocally false. Many of them wear masks outdoors, displaying a level of anxiety not seen in the unvaccinated. The fear that has cloaked them for the last 21 months has intensified to the point where they are determined to make the unvaccinated as miserable as themselves.

Biden is owned by Fauci and his gang. Watch tomorrow as the cognitively impaired President of the United States tries to scare us.

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Was reading somewhere that they're turning up the heat on the non-GMO folks so they don't have as big a control group when it starts becoming clear precisely how damaging these shots is.

Thanks for your good posts. Also boycotting cities that do this in California (and elsewhere). Just lucky we don't live in Florida where people are dropping like flies from all of the rampant disease... lol

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I did precisely that. I put myself in situations that were high risk for contagion. I kept calm and carried on. I got antibodies. Why? Because that's how you build durable immunity when you're not a coward. I'm youngish and healthyish and I'm not relying on corrupt politicians and big pharma to hijack and manipulate my immune system in ways that not even they understand. Especially true when my natural immunity is apparently something like 27x that of a GMO experiment. And that's something that my grandmother and my parents are thankful for. That's something that I'm thankful for. That' something you ought to be thankful for. And you should have the same opportunity to be brave and sensible. Or you should should be able to purchase and inject yourself with whatever you like. But don't sit there arguing that I need to be injected with who-knows-what for your safety. Don't tell sensible posters that they don't 'have any idea what they're talking about'. You're added by paranoia. You're blindly trusting corrupt politicians and big pharma scientists to save you from a virus that they likely created -- and against a backdrop of all kinds of censorship, where doctors who disagree are fired and scientists who disagree are stripped of research funding.

Shame on you.

This is a lie.

85 to 95% effective in preventing serious illness in the earlier strains

70% effective against this most contagious new strain.

If it keeps people healthy and out of the hospital, who cares?

The cost for vaccinating the world is far less than having a small percentage go into the hospital. Or just dying because they can’t receive adequate care.

A government exists to establish and maintain the structures necessary to have a functioning society.

If your city was on fire and the government ordered evacuations, you’d complain that they’re out of control.

Liar.

Ok, Neo.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

Safe? No. More deaths and injuries reported to VAERs with this vaccine in one year than with all other vaccines combined in the past 30 years. How is that safe?

This is a lie.

New figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) show that teenagers are being hit especially hard by the jabs. Many of them are now severely ill, disabled, and in some cases, dead.

As of Aug. 27, 2021, nearly three million injury symptoms from the jab have been recorded in VAERS, along with 76,160 emergency room visits, 56,912 hospitalizations, 18,098 permanent disabilities, 14,327 life-threatening events, and 13,911 deaths.

Just the deaths alone from the jabs amount to twice the number that have been recorded in VAERS for all vaccines administered over the past 30 years. This means that more people have died in the past nine months from Fauci Flu shots than have died from all other vaccines combined over the past three decades.

These were the number 4 months ago and have only grown.

The propaganda will scream these claims are false -- such as when RFK has pointed this out.

Why false? They say VAERS is unreliable and that people are more apt to report bad outcomes today.

So it's been reliable for 30 years but now is not?

And why are people more liable to report bad outcomes today than in the past? That they do not explain.

This is a fact Jeff. Look into the actual numbers. Do not let the propagandists cries of false divert you from the facts.