So are you saying Webb could have run 3:45 in high school if he used EPO?
Yeah, if he was 100% clean at the time, which I somewhat doubt, and if he had full throttle doped with EPO for a couple of years (which is what Katir had the opportunity to do, with the pandemic and not being in the testing pool).
One could say child-like amusement from someone who thinks you need to experience anemia or polycythemia to speak about well documented detrimental effects.
I do have extensive experience with the necessity of controlled measurements to support claims such as 9 second improvements are entirely due to EPO.
One of my claims is that such controlled measurements simply do not exist.
This can easily be disproved by producing examples of such controlled measurements to demonstrate their existence.
The effects of anaemia may be well documented, as an oft-treated medical condition, but perhaps you could point to the equivalent documentation of the effects of EPO, for which no athletes in elite sport have submitted themselves as subjects for research? Yet you speak authoritatively on what it does. A f*rt would be just as authoritative.
Please, show to have some brain, and stop to continue to look at THE MOST STUPID RESEARCH
This is hilarious and one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Being a good coach clearly doesn’t prevent you from being delusional
I don’t think it’s delusion. I think that this guy is knowingly full of crap because it would be bad for business to admit the truth. The recent spate of positives in Kenya amongst runners from all echelons give lie to anything he says.
Yes, I think Coe or Ovett or Cram, or Ryan or Herb Elliott could run 3:21 if they had had a decade of full throttle EPO and every other drug under the sun including HGH at their athletic peak, on a Mondo track and in super spikes with modern pacing.
the superior athlete on EPO like Coe would go 323-4 in 1500 and 138-9 in the 800m.
el g could go 324,
nobody has actually run an 800 on epo with drafting or the right pace.
139 equivalent has already been run several times by kipkiter and rudisha
and coe's run 141, he had the shape to come close to 139 high.
epo lets you get the great training block in, and optimize. for a large performance window.
without, athletes can have that great training block and come optimize for a period, but their window is small in their carear, where they have only several weeks to hit the right race, at peak to optimize.
outer worldly consistency and recovery, that is what EPO brings. and the red flag.
normal humans, they break down, 100% in this sport.
and don't get better by leaps and bounds after their physical prime years.
If we build a track subscription Empire, we can subsidize athletes to race under new and ratified governance and under new rules.
this must be supported by a majority of running fans. We must pay $1000 per year to see our favorite athletes juice to the gills and forego IAAF and college running. For the meantime, this needs to be our goal. Maybe one day, governing bodies will begin to allow full throttle PED use, but until then, we must make it worthwhile to the athletes.
5 million running fanatics paying $1000 == close to the 6bn revenue that the NBA drove in 2021. We MUST incentivize full-scale competition
A) every runner 3:30 or faster was/is on full-throttle EPO, or B) the world record is incredibly soft and should be 3:22 or faster.
Some 3:30's are before the era when full-throttle epo was available
You assume everybody is and always has been doping.
Everyone 3:30 or faster? A safe assumption.
I suppose you assume doping only started after they began testing and catching people. Why would it be less prevalent before than after?
How would the best elites of any era not generally be the dopers? Does it not work?
the biggest hit to record progressions came after the 60s, when in-competition testing made racing on amphetamines impossible. That's the best PED, so good that sprinters kept using pseudoephedrine into the 90s as much as they could get away with. Doping works, and doping control is for show, that's why they punished sudafed with a slap on the wrist.
The effects of anaemia may be well documented, as an oft-treated medical condition, but perhaps you could point to the equivalent documentation of the effects of EPO, for which no athletes in elite sport have submitted themselves as subjects for research? Yet you speak authoritatively on what it does. A f*rt would be just as authoritative.
Can’t resist a vile insult.
Facts are only "vile" to those for whom they are true.
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