Big development: Woman who falsely testified in Jarrion Lawson case is one who popped Houlihan. Houlihan ordered a carne asada b

Ray Cyst wrote:

All 4 of these statements were meticulously choreographed to deceive the public and sway public opinion in their favor. They crafted their press conference wanting you to believe that she ate a pork burrito from a Mexican food truck, or food cart, or restaurant depending on who's lie you believe, and that was the cause of her failed test. They had to say it was pork, because if they said it was beef, their story falls apart. There is no evidence of a pork burrito and if you look at their statements, they don't even claim she ate a pork burrito, They all got together and prepared statements that were precisely misleading enough as to give the appearance that she ate a pork burrito. They knew the statements were misleading at best, outright lies at the worst.

Shelby's Statement:

"We concluded that the most likely explanation was a burrito purchased and consumed approximately 10 hours before that drug test from an authentic Mexican food truck that happens to serve pig offal near my house in Beaverton Oregon. I notified the AIU that I believe that this was the source."

Shalane's Statement:

"In December of 2020, she ate dinner from a local Portland food cart, she unknowingly ordered a burrito with meat that contained nandrolone. The following morning Shelby was tested by the AIU."

Jerry's Statement

"Shelby's positive test was for an exceedingly small amount of a substance, that is known from WADA's own studies to be present in certain types of pork, less than 12 hours after she ate at a Mexican food truck that served pig organ meat."

Lawyer's Statement

"And in Shelby's case, she ate uh, she ate a burrito about 10 hours before, from a Mexican restaurant and that we concluded very, very early on, contained pig organ meat. Pig organ meat is one of the sources for nandrolone."

the beagle wrote:

Ray Cyst wrote:

All 4 of these statements were meticulously choreographed to deceive the public and sway public opinion in their favor. They crafted their press conference wanting you to believe that she ate a pork burrito from a Mexican food truck, or food cart, or restaurant depending on who's lie you believe, and that was the cause of her failed test. They had to say it was pork, because if they said it was beef, their story falls apart. There is no evidence of a pork burrito and if you look at their statements, they don't even claim she ate a pork burrito, They all got together and prepared statements that were precisely misleading enough as to give the appearance that she ate a pork burrito. They knew the statements were misleading at best, outright lies at the worst.

Shelby's Statement:

"We concluded that the most likely explanation was a burrito purchased and consumed approximately 10 hours before that drug test from an authentic Mexican food truck that happens to serve pig offal near my house in Beaverton Oregon. I notified the AIU that I believe that this was the source."

Shalane's Statement:

"In December of 2020, she ate dinner from a local Portland food cart, she unknowingly ordered a burrito with meat that contained nandrolone. The following morning Shelby was tested by the AIU."

Jerry's Statement

"Shelby's positive test was for an exceedingly small amount of a substance, that is known from WADA's own studies to be present in certain types of pork, less than 12 hours after she ate at a Mexican food truck that served pig organ meat."

Lawyer's Statement

"And in Shelby's case, she ate uh, she ate a burrito about 10 hours before, from a Mexican restaurant and that we concluded very, very early on, contained pig organ meat. Pig organ meat is one of the sources for nandrolone."

Yeah but you started a thread calling these lies (they aren't) which is in fact a lie by you.

Woke joke wrote:

i heart heavy metal. wrote:

so LRC believes Shelby because she's white.

Got it

Right. This is such a stupid, jumped-the-shark woke response. Most intelligent people do NOT believe Shelby. This crap about thinking "white" people are above this is just silly. That all ended with Lance Armstrong, and it wasn't even a racist lens so much as it was a nationalistic lens. People so desperately wanted to believe in the unbelievable in this elite American cyclist taking elite European cyclists to the woodshed, time and time again. But, he was eventually proven a fraud.

What sucks is every athlete and technology affiliated with this company just has a certain amount of taint to it in my humble opinion. Sure, there is always reasonable doubt, and we can not penalize suspicion without due process. But between all of the questionable gray zone bull$hit and the gimmicky shoes which have demonstrably made a difference in performance for even high school athletes, distance running and track has become unwatchable. You could argue that "everyone else is doing it too or using the same technology," but it just takes the purity out of something once so pure. The state records where I now live, from 800 to 1600 to 3200, have all coincidentally fallen this year. We are talking about one record that has stood for 41 years and was just absolutely smashed twice in one week by two different athletes in a deep distance running state. We are talking about a two second improvement in the 800, not a 0.2 second improvement.

It makes me sad. But it makes me even sadder that society, in my eyes, has absolutely become about judging people by the color of their skin, not the content of their character, about shifting to equality of outcomes rather than equality of opportunity, another bull$hit message being subsidized and promoted out of Oregon.

Ray Cyst wrote:

All 4 of these statements were meticulously choreographed to deceive the public and sway public opinion in their favor. They crafted their press conference wanting you to believe that she ate a pork burrito from a Mexican food truck, or food cart, or restaurant depending on who's lie you believe, and that was the cause of her failed test. They had to say it was pork, because if they said it was beef, their story falls apart. There is no evidence of a pork burrito and if you look at their statements, they don't even claim she ate a pork burrito, They all got together and prepared statements that were precisely misleading enough as to give the appearance that she ate a pork burrito. They knew the statements were misleading at best, outright lies at the worst.

Shelby's Statement:

"We concluded that the most likely explanation was a burrito purchased and consumed approximately 10 hours before that drug test from an authentic Mexican food truck that happens to serve pig offal near my house in Beaverton Oregon. I notified the AIU that I believe that this was the source."

Shalane's Statement:

"In December of 2020, she ate dinner from a local Portland food cart, she unknowingly ordered a burrito with meat that contained nandrolone. The following morning Shelby was tested by the AIU."

Jerry's Statement

"Shelby's positive test was for an exceedingly small amount of a substance, that is known from WADA's own studies to be present in certain types of pork, less than 12 hours after she ate at a Mexican food truck that served pig organ meat."

Lawyer's Statement

"And in Shelby's case, she ate uh, she ate a burrito about 10 hours before, from a Mexican restaurant and that we concluded very, very early on, contained pig organ meat. Pig organ meat is one of the sources for nandrolone."

rojo wrote:

Jonathan Gault has written a FANTASTIC column on the complexities of the Shelby Houlihan case.

As a track fan, you basically have two option. you can believe.

1) Either Houlihan is lying, and today is a victory for clean sport.

2)She's innocent her case exposes fissures in an anti-doping system in need of overhaul.

Jonathan Gault knows which one he believes (#2).

In the piece, he goes through both arguments and actually includes two huge pieces of information. One helps Shelby. One hurts her. The case certainly is getting more and more complex the more we learn.

1) The head of the Montreal lab, Christiane Ayotte, who was proven to have provided false testimony in the Jarrion Lawson case, was actually the one who labeled Houlihan's test as a positive. After a subpoena of her lab's records, Ayotte was shown to have provided false testimony in the Lawson case that resulted in him getting cleared. She said it was impossible to determine based on testing if someone had taken a drug through food or not by mistake as everyone who tested positive did so at a similar tiny level as Lawson. She testified that in recent years, positive tests for trenbolone in her lab had always featured low concentrations of the substance, making it impossible to separate intentional cheaters from those who had ingested contaminated meat.

The actual records revealed Ayotte’s claim was not accurate. The CAS panel noted some of the levels measured "were large" and that 18 of the 21 positive tests for trenbolone since 2013 contained higher concentrations than Lawson’s .65 ng/mL. Lawson’s agent, Paul Doyle, told LetsRun.com the average concentration was 208 times higher.

Doyle was so upset by Ayotte's conduct that she said "Christiane Ayotte should be fired from her job and never be able to testify as an expert witness ever again.”

More info here:

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9944162

2) Houlihan didn't actually order a pork burrito  - she ordered carne asada. So if you think Shelby is innocent, you need to believe the food truck messed up her order. If that seems implausible to you, her lawyer argues what would be even more implausible is for her to be taking nandrolene and get caught as it flushes out of your system super quickly. In his mind, she'd have to be a moron to do that. So who is more likely to have messed up - Shelby or the food truck?

Gault wrote:

“She actually ordered a carne asada burrito [the night before the test],” Greene says. “But based on what she ate, it was very, very greasy. The description of the others who actually ate with her was the same. We don’t know what she was given. But we know that the truck had pork offal in two of the eight burritos they were serving…When we hired the investigator, the carne asada burrito that she typically ordered was extremely dry, no grease at all. And the two [types of] burritos [that] had the offal, they both were very, very greasy.”

Greene believes, however, that pork offal is the only logical source of the nandrolone. If it did not come from the pork, he says, there are two ways it could have entered her body: an injection or via an oral supplement. The AIU conceded that it was not injected. If it had been, traces would still have remained in her system by the time of her next test on January 23 — which she passed. That leaves only the oral supplement, a method Greene says an athlete would have to be “a moron” to employ because, when ingested that way, the nandrolone leaves the body within 24 hours.

“To catch someone taking an oral steroid [and find a concentration] under 15 ng/mL, the window of detection is less than an hour. They couldn’t identify one time it’s ever happened. They kept saying how unlikely it was that she could have eaten boar. It’s more unlikely that they would have caught her this way…You can look at nandrolone cases. All the studies — go read them, they’re all publicly available — it’s all injectables…This was a purely theoretical determination.”

Please spend ten minutes reading the piece here:

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/06/shelby-houlihans-suspension-is-a-track-field-tragedy/