Nikki Hiltz comes out as transgender/non-binary

I don't really see the salient difference between being a tomboyish lesbian which she had been rather obviously for several years now (and which already was "nonbinary" as it is not conforming to two central features (desiring men and outwardly presenting girlish/womanly in hairstyle etc.) of most biological females) and the new status. What is supposed to change as she probably will not start racing men?

Jo72 wrote:

I don't really see the salient difference between being a tomboyish lesbian which she had been rather obviously for several years now (and which already was "nonbinary" as it is not conforming to two central features (desiring men and outwardly presenting girlish/womanly in hairstyle etc.) of most biological females) and the new status. What is supposed to change as she probably will not start racing men?

Possessing traits of "most biological females" doesn't make you a woman. Fashion presentation doesn't make you a woman, neither does desiring men.

I don't know what will change for her, as she always looked pretty non-binary to me moreso than lesbian, but I don't know the intricacies of her life.

IDon'tGetIt wrote:

jgxdkgkcufk wrote:

So how does it work? Some days she will run in the men category and other days in the women category depending on how she feels that day?

I am not joking here, it’s a serious question.

It works like this:

Non-Olympic or non-WC year: Male

Olympic/WC year: Female

What if an elite male distance runner transitioned to a female but didn't undergo hormone treatments? She would feel like a woman every day but wouldn't be eligible to compete as one. Should she just retire or can she be whatever wants away from the track?

Nikki has very powerful legs.

Nikki said.

some days she wakes up “feeling like a powerful queen” and others she gets up “feeling as if I’m just a guy being a dude.” She also notes that there are some days when she identifies “outside of the gender binary entirely."

WTF, that makes you human, not transgender. This is one confused person, or an attention seeker.

Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don't.

Sometimes I feel like an Olympic gold medalist, sometimes I feel like a 70 year old man, and sometimes I don't think about it at all.

Stu...Stu Padaso wrote:

Nikki said.

some days she wakes up “feeling like a powerful queen” and others she gets up “feeling as if I’m just a guy being a dude.” She also notes that there are some days when she identifies “outside of the gender binary entirely."

WTF, that makes you human, not transgender. This is one confused person, or an attention seeker.

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There are lots of progressives who are confused about their Gender.

They just can't figure it out.

THE PARTY OF SCIENCE......#SNOOZE

Not bothered by this, the way I look at it she is a Women (Even if she disagrees) and she competes against other Woman, so this is fair, it does bother me when men use this nonsense to try to steal spots from real women, not a fan of this stuff, these are sick people who badly need a Psychiatrist, but the main thing is it does not hurt others, she is a women competing against other woman (Most Normal People see it that way) so it is fair, if she wants to go home and pretend she is whatever behind closed doors that is her business.

choccymilklife wrote:

Please don't reply to this with your endless "debating" over people's identities or pronouns, you're boring.

"Debate" is boring. It's a dull excuse for a "free" society.

wazzu1452 wrote:

There are lots of progressives who are confused about their Gender.

They just can't figure it out.

THE PARTY OF SCIENCE......#SNOOZE

Which bathroom am I supposed to use?

Stu...Stu Padaso wrote:

Nikki said.

some days she wakes up “feeling like a powerful queen” and others she gets up “feeling as if I’m just a guy being a dude.” She also notes that there are some days when she identifies “outside of the gender binary entirely."

WTF, that makes you human, not transgender. This is one confused person, or an attention seeker.

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I honestly think she's a sincere person making sense of gender nonconformity using the ideas that are most popular right now. We're living in a time of hyper individualism and self-branding, and where one's life project is "become the best and truest you that you can be." It's a narcissistic turn inward on a cultural scale. Every deviation from the norm must be mined for significance.

The banality of her reasons for feeling trans/nonbinary are remarkable to those of us who recognize them as common experiences and part of the human condition. I doubt most men feel masculine and/or like they conform to an abstract standard of masculinity all the time; ditto for women with femininity--maybe even moreso, because images of women today on social media make women seem like shallow cyborg Barbie dolls.

bromontana wrote:

wazzu1452 wrote:

There are lots of progressives who are confused about their Gender.

They just can't figure it out.

THE PARTY OF SCIENCE......#SNOOZE

Which bathroom am I supposed to use?

Ah, yes. Just fill out a form here, and we will circle around back to you. There's a lot of genders out there, so please wait 5 minutes for us to process all of your info and match you up with the correct bathroom for you.

(1) A woman competing against men and not the other way around is not the same and you know it

(2) Why do we care at all about what your anonymous friend thinks?

(3) you’re not at all an expect on transgender issues

Good for Nikki. It's difficult to battle identity internally and its even harder to be open about it to others. Will be interesting to see how the gender / track situation works out.

Not good for Nikki ... facts over feelings..not feelings over facts

Just because I might want to go to the local diner eat a ton of food and dash with out paying doesn't make it right. If my wife has cancer and I feel like going to a hooker because I am frustrated... doesn't make it right. Nikki has no spiritual, emotional or physical compass presently.

tech guy 5 wrote:

Good for Nikki. It's difficult to battle identity internally and its even harder to be open about it to others. Will be interesting to see how the gender / track situation works out.

Nikki will run in the women's division.

Pert wrote:

Not good for Nikki ... facts over feelings..not feelings over facts

Just because I might want to go to the local diner eat a ton of food and dash with out paying doesn't make it right. If my wife has cancer and I feel like going to a hooker because I am frustrated... doesn't make it right. Nikki has no spiritual, emotional or physical compass presently.

coming out as trans=theft and adultery. Got it.

They? The Addams Family came up with the exact pronoun already:

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