Yes. Between 1-5. Do you think he would have been 6-10? That shows your bias against him. Do you really think he shows up at races like this not intending to be top 5? And when has he not been?
Yes. Between 1-5. Do you think he would have been 6-10? That shows your bias against him. Do you really think he shows up at races like this not intending to be top 5? And when has he not been?
gets it wrote:
People were surprised GDS beat Schweizer? That the 3:56 athlete who has closed sub 4 races in sub 60 laps won a 3000 that was far from all out against a woman who hasn't broken 4?
Athletes don't exist if they are not from the US and/or don't have an ongoing juvenile Instagram feud w/ current or former teammates.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Don't forget, in HS he constantly outkicked Grant Fisher in races despite being 1 year younger, no reason to believe that now he would be 5-10s behind him.
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Fisher has had a competent coach for a couple years now, whereas Hunter has not. That's one reason.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
cramister wrote:
Pretty sure he meant to say college kids instead
It’s just that those college kids were class of 2017 and Drew was class of 2016 in high school, they’re a lot closer in age then some realize
Yes, Hunter was a Junior when GF was a Senior in HS. Anyone who knows about HS training knows that coaches train their runners according to the class they are in and not by biological age. So GF could be considered 1 year ahead of Hunter. I admit though that it will eventually even out and biological age will be the difference.
What speaks for GF is that he did a lot less mileage than Hunter in HS (40-45 vs 70, both as seniors), so Hunter beating GF in HS doesn't mean that he is still the better runner now. They also took different paths, but we must take into consideration that Hunter missed a lot of time during some unlucky injuries, which caused some setbacks. The story between these 2 once "HS prodigies" isn't closed yet for me, future races should shed some light on that. Fisher might indeed be better, I'm just saying we need to wait until Hunter actually races again before drawing any conclusions.
I was talking about Cooper and Luis outkicking him
I love that she b -slapped Karissa
Where is pure hate pupil when you need him?
(Yes, I think that Colleen is pretty annoying, but I can also appreciate someone who musters the intestinal fortitude to kick some ass over the people she prob feels has wronged her.)
Wow. Big time running by Fisher & McGorty. They are now #14 & 15 on the all time US 3000 list. 7:37.21 & 7:37.47. Hunter is at 3:39.85. (slower than Klecker now)
F & McG are now ahead of Lomong, Mead, Heath, Blankenship, Bayer, and Ritz.
Of course, big props to Scott. Just rocketed to #4 Brit of all time. Only Farah, Moorcroft, & Foster are faster. 3.5 seconds behind Farah, so I think he can take this record down in a fast DL race this summer.
I am sorry I meant college kids!
spade detector wrote:
Betfred wrote:
$100 to return $300 would be 2/1, not 30/1.
Lol exactly. Come on, Rojo.
Wut?
Bet $100 to win $300 is 3 to 1, not 2 to 1.
The Unkle wrote:
spade detector wrote:
Lol exactly. Come on, Rojo.
Wut?
Bet $100 to win $300 is 3 to 1, not 2 to 1.
It’s not to win $300, it’s to return $300 (winning $200 and getting back the $100 wagered). Thus it is 2 to 1.
Come on fella.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
"What speaks for GF is that he did a lot less mileage than Hunter in HS (40-45 vs 70, both as seniors), so Hunter beating GF in HS doesn't mean that he is still the better runner now. They also took different paths, but we must take into consideration that Hunter missed a lot of time during some unlucky injuries, which caused some setbacks. The story between these 2 once "HS prodigies" isn't closed yet for me, future races should shed some light on that. Fisher might indeed be better, I'm just saying we need to wait until Hunter actually races again before drawing any conclusions. "
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Drew actually RACED in the end of 2020 and with mediocre results (relative to his level).
What he could have done yesterday is pure speculation since his fastest run ever was the 7:40 3000m in DL Oslo more than 1 and half year ago.
I am not saying Drew has peaked but I fear - as many other on these pages - that his training is wrong. And I suspect the main failure is not developing his aerobic capacity sufficiently. To put a new layer on the aerobic foundation in every base training period should be the main focus for all runners from 1500m and up.
The Unkle wrote:
spade detector wrote:
Lol exactly. Come on, Rojo.
Wut?
Bet $100 to win $300 is 3 to 1, not 2 to 1.
You are one of the biggest idiots on here, it makes sense that you can't do simple math as well. The profit is $200. It's 2/1. I bet your boi crush Trump would get it wrong too.
objectiveobserver wrote:
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
"What speaks for GF is that he did a lot less mileage than Hunter in HS (40-45 vs 70, both as seniors), so Hunter beating GF in HS doesn't mean that he is still the better runner now. They also took different paths, but we must take into consideration that Hunter missed a lot of time during some unlucky injuries, which caused some setbacks. The story between these 2 once "HS prodigies" isn't closed yet for me, future races should shed some light on that. Fisher might indeed be better, I'm just saying we need to wait until Hunter actually races again before drawing any conclusions. "
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Drew actually RACED in the end of 2020 and with mediocre results (relative to his level).
What he could have done yesterday is pure speculation since his fastest run ever was the 7:40 3000m in DL Oslo more than 1 and half year ago.
I am not saying Drew has peaked but I fear - as many other on these pages - that his training is wrong. And I suspect the main failure is not developing his aerobic capacity sufficiently. To put a new layer on the aerobic foundation in every base training period should be the main focus for all runners from 1500m and up.
Exactly. Drew (at his current fitness) seems to be a class behind Fisher and McGorty (and even Klecker). He's been outkicked by college kids twice, and although he set a new PB, it isn't exactly a blazing time. I think Tinman is squandering his talent.
All timers wrote:
Wow. Big time running by Fisher & McGorty. They are now #14 & 15 on the all time US 3000 list. 7:37.21 & 7:37.47. Hunter is at 3:39.85. (slower than Klecker now)
F & McG are now ahead of Lomong, Mead, Heath, Blankenship, Bayer, and Ritz.
See the username. None of these marks will be recorded in any All-Time lists, as they cannot be recognized as official times. Unfortunately, these will be TT marks for the athletes until they do it again on a certified track.
dmndhands wrote:
dmndhands wrote:
1. Stafford
2. Quiqley
3. Schweizer
4. Cranny
5. Werner
6. Lockedi
7. Infeld
8. Hall
9. O'keefe
10. Jorgenson
got womens order almost spot on
no rail ray wrote:
All timers wrote:
Wow. Big time running by Fisher & McGorty. They are now #14 & 15 on the all time US 3000 list. 7:37.21 & 7:37.47. Hunter is at 3:39.85. (slower than Klecker now)
F & McG are now ahead of Lomong, Mead, Heath, Blankenship, Bayer, and Ritz.
See the username. None of these marks will be recorded in any All-Time lists, as they cannot be recognized as official times. Unfortunately, these will be TT marks for the athletes until they do it again on a certified track.
What. No way. Already on the IAAF all time list:
https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/3000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=countries®ion=usa&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2021-02-06Logically, if it went out in 63, with Efraimson in first, as she was, and she finished in 2:05, then she ALSO negative split.
Her splits were 63.1, 62.0.
run faster at the Locker wrote:
Yes. Between 1-5. Do you think he would have been 6-10? That shows your bias against him. Do you really think he shows up at races like this not intending to be top 5? And when has he not been?
5th at best. Hate to burst your bubble.