fact checker 642572498 wrote:
It would have been justified if he was shot.
No it wouldn’t have.
Still pretending to be a Bernie Bro? Apparently not.
If the cops did no wrong, why did they lie? (Which is a wrong in itself)
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
It would have been justified if he was shot.
No it wouldn’t have.
Still pretending to be a Bernie Bro? Apparently not.
If the cops did no wrong, why did they lie? (Which is a wrong in itself)
he was trying to give the one of the cops his hat back. that was what was in his hand, one of the cops was kneeling with the protesters a few minutes earlier and left his hat behind.
this guy, this peaceful man, picked up the hat and was trying to return it, right thing to do and all that.
although it isn't audible it seems pretty clear to me that he was trying to explain this to the cops before they shoved him. those meatheads have unbridled arrogance.
additional video has surfaced showing these details.
Tony Randall knocked up his wife when he was 77 and again when he was 78. But he had Big Dick Energy.
Elvin wrote:
Truth 3.0 wrote:
Im sorry but, natural selection would like to have a word with you if you cant fall down without dying
The man in the video is clearly decades past the age of conceiving and raising children. If you think anything that happens to him at this point in his life has anything to do with natural selection, you fail to understand the concept of natural selection on the level I'd expect of a fifth grader.
Hint if you still aren't getting it: will the number of viable offspring this fathers be impacted by the outcome this incident?
Illegal uses of power wrote:
plantanation wrote:
I'm honestly not sure why people think this was assault. It really didnt look like a hard push.
The cop shoved the man, who was leaning forward, hard enough to knock him more than 20 feet backwards.
plantanation wrote:
I wish he hadn't lost his balance and hurt himself.
If the cop had not assaulted him then he would have been fine.
That's really not how I see it in the video. It really looks like a light push to me, followed by the old man stumbling multiple steps while trying to catch his balance, but he ultimately falls down.
I didnt say it was a gentle touch. It was a push. But he definitely didnt "knock him back 20 feet."
Every other protestor had cleared the area except this one guy. The cops were trying to move him along rather than arrest him. An unfortunate accident happened. It sucks, but I really dont see it as a crime. I'm not trolling you, it's my honest take on it.
plantanation wrote:
That's really not how I see it in the video. It really looks like a light push to me, followed by the old man stumbling multiple steps while trying to catch his balance, but he ultimately falls down.
I didnt say it was a gentle touch. It was a push. But he definitely didnt "knock him back 20 feet."
Every other protestor had cleared the area except this one guy. The cops were trying to move him along rather than arrest him. An unfortunate accident happened. It sucks, but I really dont see it as a crime. I'm not trolling you, it's my honest take on it.
Bootlickers always have the best explanations
dude, fact checker - you said they were marching into a "RIOT"?
it was like 3 old guys, a teenage girl, and some hippy dudes. LOL at the need for 100 cops in batman armor.
fact checker 642572498 wrote: People are holding police to an impossible standard. They are getting shot and stabbed in these riots. Thugs are throwing bricks and water bottles full of concrete at police.
Police are getting shot and stabbed in riots, not in protests. The protesters are not the rioters nor the looters nor the thugs. Stop conflating them.
The standard is not impossible. The standard is use reasonable force when necessary. This old man didnt deserve to be pushed, much less almost killed and hospitalized for disobedience.
fact checker 642572498 wrote: And at the same time you expect them to read the exact threat level of each situation and come up with the perfect reaction. If they under-react, they can be killed or innocent civilians can be killed. If they respond even a fraction of a percentage too harshly it will be blown out of proportion or they can even be arrested.
Yes. Reading the exact threat level of each situation is exactly what we expect them to do. Thats what they're paid for. The line in most cases, esp here, is nowhere as fine as you make it to be.
Two officers could have gently pulled that man aside, talked him down, or arrested him. Instead they pushed him out of the way and then walked over and around him as he bled.
These protests are as much as, or should be as much about police misconduct and abuse and over-militarization as they are about race and discrimination, frankly.
Police arrogance, rage, and misconduct has cost lives. Whether its needing to physically dominate someone like Floyd or Garner cases or need to feel respected/feared like this.
Instead of de-escalating situations, too often many cops escalate them. Many cops lack the psychological toolkit their job demands.
I bet black lives matter aren't gonna say fvck all about this one.
10 pages and 190 opinions about the "brutal" police dealing with the elderly man but no discussion about this police officer who was killed by looters? Why no outrage by BLM for this retired BLACK cop? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/st-louis-police-officer-killed-protecting-store-looters
I see.
A cop killed by criminals justifies all this police violence.
You see nothing lacking in that "logic"?
Hey, it waz an old white guy. Who cares?
Still waiting for you to support your claim that the officers have been fired and are facing jail time.
The elderly Buffalo protester knocked to the ground by cops in a viral video that has become an international symbol of police brutality was an “agitator” who was “trying to spark up the crowd of people,” the city’s mayor said.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/buffalo-mayor-calls-protester-shoved-by-police-an-agitator/
ReallybroReally wrote:
The elderly Buffalo protester knocked to the ground by cops in a viral video that has become an international symbol of police brutality was an “agitator” who was “trying to spark up the crowd of people,” the city’s mayor said.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/buffalo-mayor-calls-protester-shoved-by-police-an-agitator/
Well if the mayor called him an agitator, then it was fine what the cops did.
bladdyblah wrote:
dude, fact checker - you said they were marching into a "RIOT"?
it was like 3 old guys, a teenage girl, and some hippy dudes. LOL at the need for 100 cops in batman armor.
You mean aside from the businesses that were looted and buildings burned. At least the mayor had the balls to acknowledge the truth. The guy was baiting the cops. He initiated contact and then he got what he deserved. There are laws that protestors have to follow as well.
That mayor has hopefully earned his city days of more protests. Idiot. An 'agitator' who is elderly and almost killed by callous thugish police officers? Mayor, you're an idiot. Police reform is needed big time in the US. BIG TIME.
ReallybroReally wrote:
The elderly Buffalo protester knocked to the ground by cops in a viral video that has become an international symbol of police brutality was an “agitator” who was “trying to spark up the crowd of people,” the city’s mayor said.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/buffalo-mayor-calls-protester-shoved-by-police-an-agitator/
Graffiti Ghost wrote:
10 pages and 190 opinions about the "brutal" police dealing with the elderly man but no discussion about this police officer who was killed by looters? Why no outrage by BLM for this retired BLACK cop?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/st-louis-police-officer-killed-protecting-store-looters
Exactly. These "protests" (riots) are not based on any real principles. They are purely political and are funded by people who want to get Trump out of office. They are actively calling for cops to be killed, yet the media continues to portray them as"peaceful"
onemorePRinme wrote:
he was trying to give the one of the cops his hat back. that was what was in his hand, one of the cops was kneeling with the protesters a few minutes earlier and left his hat behind.
this guy, this peaceful man, picked up the hat and was trying to return it, right thing to do and all that.
although it isn't audible it seems pretty clear to me that he was trying to explain this to the cops before they shoved him. those meatheads have unbridled arrogance.
additional video has surfaced showing these details.
That's false. He's not handing them anything.
Your story is BS. A guy outside protesting against the police is not going to be doing them favors like you claim. Even the mayor said the guy was an agitator.
Even if he wanted to give them something, just leave it on the ground. They are walking that way anyway and would pick it up. No excuse for the guy disobeying orders and getting that close to cops in the middle of a riot.