Flagpole wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
The stock market is a leading indicator so they should start the graph on election day, not inauguration day. There were a lot of gains as soon as he was elected.
This is correct. Can not deny.
Will Trump take credit for the current huge equity sell offs? Or will he blame Hillary, Bill and Obama as usual?
Pattern Noticer wrote:
You are a LIAR wrote:
LIAR.
It was 13%.
I notice a pattern among the libs here of trying to distort the truth on us poor uneducated folk.
Since you guys change your names every post (what are you afraid of concerning sticking with one name, being called out on your stupidity in the future? Yep, that's it), I'll change my name for this one post to IDIOT NOTICER:
I am not trying to "distort the truth on (you) poor uneducated folk", THAT is your president's job, and he does it every damn day in office. **I** am simply trying to ed-u-cate the uneducated.
Here are MY links to the 8% #.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-pollshttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/presidentWhere are YOUR garbage links to your silly 13% claim??
My guess? You misread the 13% as Trump's share of black vote, when it really represented blacks as TOTAL SHARE of all voters.
This should be fun. Let's see it, smart guy.
ok, I read the guy's comment as "13% of black vote", NOT "13% of black MEN " vote. I had not seen it broken down that specifically. My mistake.
So, I was correcting the poster (which name was he using, Oracle....lol) on something he did not say. But my #'s weren't wrong either, just not on what he said.
I wrote: "Exit polls show he won EIGHT % of the black vote. Not 13. Big difference. "
Now have a good laugh on me misreading his statement.
(Again, my #'s weren't wrong, I just corrected him on something he didn't say. At least I don't tweet completely false stats like president Trump does about blacks. )
Now if I'm a "LIAR" because of this mis-read, what does that make Trump?? Oy vay, Liar Extraordinaire!
Tyrone ReXXXing/Idiot Noticer wrote:
Pattern Noticer wrote:
I notice a pattern among the libs here of trying to distort the truth on us poor uneducated folk.
Since you guys change your names every post (what are you afraid of concerning sticking with one name, being called out on your stupidity in the future? Yep, that's it), I'll change my name for this one post to IDIOT NOTICER:
I am not trying to "distort the truth on (you) poor uneducated folk", THAT is your president's job, and he does it every damn day in office. **I** am simply trying to ed-u-cate the uneducated.
Here are MY links to the 8% #.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-pollshttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/presidentWhere are YOUR garbage links to your silly 13% claim??
My guess? You misread the 13% as Trump's share of black vote, when it really represented blacks as TOTAL SHARE of all voters.
This should be fun. Let's see it, smart guy.
Interesting. My links for the data are the same as yours. Lol
kekistani wrote:
The memo is coming. Just like I said.
The Dems are about to be eviscerated. Just like I said.
It's all over libcucks. You kept pushing, you kept howling, you just couldn't go quietly away and accept your loss.
Now You Pay
The Memo is Coming
Democucks are DONE
The memo is nothing more a desperate attempt by complicit members of the GOP (i.e., Nunes). Even Trump's FBI director (Wray) has said the memo has errors and inaccuracies.
Trump and the GOP realize that Mueller has more than enough evidence. Expect more desperation in the coming days and weeks knowing that discrediting the investigation is their only hope. Justice and rule of law will prevail. If not, we're in trouble.
Yesterday's non-enforcement of additional Russia sanctions, despite Congress voting 517-5 in favor, is further indication that Putin has Trump by his balls.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
ok, I read the guy's comment as "13% of black vote", NOT "13% of black MEN " vote. I had not seen it broken down that specifically. My mistake.
So, I was correcting the poster (which name was he using, Oracle....lol) on something he did not say. But my #'s weren't wrong either, just not on what he said.
I wrote: "Exit polls show he won EIGHT % of the black vote. Not 13. Big difference. "
Now have a good laugh on me misreading his statement.
(Again, my #'s weren't wrong, I just corrected him on something he didn't say. At least I don't tweet completely false stats like president Trump does about blacks. )
Now if I'm a "LIAR" because of this mis-read, what does that make Trump?? Oy vay, Liar Extraordinaire!
How can you correct him on something he did not say?
Tyrone ReXXXing/Idiot Noticer wrote:
Where are YOUR garbage links to your silly 13% claim??
My guess? You misread the 13% as Trump's share of black vote, when it really represented blacks as TOTAL SHARE of all voters.
This should be fun. Let's see it, smart guy.
Quite fun.
Trollminator wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
This is correct. Can not deny.
Will Trump take credit for the current huge equity sell offs? Or will he blame Hillary, Bill and Obama as usual?
When things go south anywhere, he will find someone to blame other than himself...for sure.
nontrumper wrote:
kekistani wrote:
The memo is coming. Just like I said.
The Dems are about to be eviscerated. Just like I said.
It's all over libcucks. You kept pushing, you kept howling, you just couldn't go quietly away and accept your loss.
Now You Pay
The Memo is Coming
Democucks are DONE
The memo is nothing more a desperate attempt by complicit members of the GOP (i.e., Nunes). Even Trump's FBI director (Wray) has said the memo has errors and inaccuracies.
Trump and the GOP realize that Mueller has more than enough evidence. Expect more desperation in the coming days and weeks knowing that discrediting the investigation is their only hope. Justice and rule of law will prevail. If not, we're in trouble.
Yesterday's non-enforcement of additional Russia sanctions, despite Congress voting 517-5 in favor, is further indication that Putin has Trump by his balls.
^This....
The Oracle of Reality wrote:
Guys, you’re being a bit verbose in your whining/coping lately. And of course, you miss the core reason Trump was able to even exist as a candidate:
The Left - years ago - decided they were going to emphasize minority identity politics at the national level. It was a sound strategy at first, as demographic trends seemed to be working in their favor if they embraced this strategy. In doing so however, it snowballed out of control and became THE ONLY strategy (see 2016 election). Everything else takes a backseat. The opposition is racist (this goes back to at least 2000), so you must vote with us to defeat the evil club of white men.
As 2015 rolled around and you were still patting yourself on the back for getting an interracial man into the White House, it was worse than ever before. You had a woman lined up that had been carefully brought along for two decades. Her token Senate seat was amusing. Wow- such experience! “What a policy wonk she was!” The arrogance was unbelievable. “She would hardly have to campaign” (and she didn’t). “Women aren’t going to abandon their own.” “She looks like me, so I must vote for her”, they assumed women would think.
But you guys over played your hand. The resentment resulting from roughly half the country from being called racist (and sexist, at opportune times) all the time was at astonishingly high levels. The accusers have been so brainwashed and self-righteous, that they don’t realize how ridiculous their actions seem to most of the country. (And I’m not saying this is enough for a lot of Dems to abandon the party; there are other reasons that particular groups - teachers, artists, etc - won’t ever leave the Dem party). Left wing identity politics is their religion. And they’ve become religious fanatics.
Bottom line- The country never united under Obama. It’s not all his fault. The Republicans were in DEFCON mode in 2010 like the Dems are now, and refused to cooperate on much. But if the country had come together, Trump wouldn’t have been able to win. He came along at the right time, with a few basic themes, and shoved all the identity politics and PC culture down the Left’s (including much of the MSM) throats. Everything else is secondary.
And as we know from post-election data, he didn’t do too shabby in parts of the country that surprised even the smartest of Liberals. He won the suburbs and upper middle class. He wasn’t supposed to win that. He won white women! WHAT?! How could that have happened?! He won white college graduates. Mind. Blown. He even got 30% if the Hispanic vote! That’s right, 30% of the group that the Left/MSM first painted as the absolute target of candidate Trump, voted for him. I recall “polls” showing him in the 10% range in 2015-2016. Black men went for him at 13%, the highest in at least three decades to vote Republican. WHAT is going on here?!
You guys need to look in the mirror and admit you’ve been swept up in the strategy of one party in a two party system. You’re pawns. You’re often fighting boogeymen that don’t deserve to be the core of your faith.
It looks like you got a mixed bag of responses from liberals on that one. The problem is that for most liberals the moment you challenge their SJW view of the world, you get cast into the Basket and they discard everything you say as the rantings of a white supremacist.
Hashtags such as “#ReleaseTheMemo” have been trending on Twitter in recent days, and accounts affiliated with Russian influence efforts have been supporting this campaign, according to the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a U.S.-based group that examines efforts by Russia and other nations to interfere in democratic institutions
Gary the Russian Bot wrote:
Hashtags such as “#ReleaseTheMemo” have been trending on Twitter in recent days, and accounts affiliated with Russian influence efforts have been supporting this campaign, according to the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a U.S.-based group that examines efforts by Russia and other nations to interfere in democratic institutions
Likely just Dems.
You know. Like they were paid to go to Trump rallies and cause disturbances and incite violence.
DiscoGary wrote:
The Oracle of Reality wrote:
Guys, you’re being a bit verbose in your whining/coping lately. And of course, you miss the core reason Trump was able to even exist as a candidate:
The Left - years ago - decided they were going to emphasize minority identity politics at the national level. It was a sound strategy at first, as demographic trends seemed to be working in their favor if they embraced this strategy. In doing so however, it snowballed out of control and became THE ONLY strategy (see 2016 election). Everything else takes a backseat. The opposition is racist (this goes back to at least 2000), so you must vote with us to defeat the evil club of white men.
As 2015 rolled around and you were still patting yourself on the back for getting an interracial man into the White House, it was worse than ever before. You had a woman lined up that had been carefully brought along for two decades. Her token Senate seat was amusing. Wow- such experience! “What a policy wonk she was!” The arrogance was unbelievable. “She would hardly have to campaign” (and she didn’t). “Women aren’t going to abandon their own.” “She looks like me, so I must vote for her”, they assumed women would think.
But you guys over played your hand. The resentment resulting from roughly half the country from being called racist (and sexist, at opportune times) all the time was at astonishingly high levels. The accusers have been so brainwashed and self-righteous, that they don’t realize how ridiculous their actions seem to most of the country. (And I’m not saying this is enough for a lot of Dems to abandon the party; there are other reasons that particular groups - teachers, artists, etc - won’t ever leave the Dem party). Left wing identity politics is their religion. And they’ve become religious fanatics.
Bottom line- The country never united under Obama. It’s not all his fault. The Republicans were in DEFCON mode in 2010 like the Dems are now, and refused to cooperate on much. But if the country had come together, Trump wouldn’t have been able to win. He came along at the right time, with a few basic themes, and shoved all the identity politics and PC culture down the Left’s (including much of the MSM) throats. Everything else is secondary.
And as we know from post-election data, he didn’t do too shabby in parts of the country that surprised even the smartest of Liberals. He won the suburbs and upper middle class. He wasn’t supposed to win that. He won white women! WHAT?! How could that have happened?! He won white college graduates. Mind. Blown. He even got 30% if the Hispanic vote! That’s right, 30% of the group that the Left/MSM first painted as the absolute target of candidate Trump, voted for him. I recall “polls” showing him in the 10% range in 2015-2016. Black men went for him at 13%, the highest in at least three decades to vote Republican. WHAT is going on here?!
You guys need to look in the mirror and admit you’ve been swept up in the strategy of one party in a two party system. You’re pawns. You’re often fighting boogeymen that don’t deserve to be the core of your faith.
It looks like you got a mixed bag of responses from liberals on that one. The problem is that for most liberals the moment you challenge their SJW view of the world, you get cast into the Basket and they discard everything you say as the rantings of a white supremacist.
Well, I didn’t expect all of them to realize what has happened to the Democratic Party in recent years. It’s clearly been hijacked by the Regressive/SJW wing. It’s for anything and everything that is anti-white male.
But it was nice that a couple responders were able to admit it. As one said, the Democratic Party used to be for elevating the working man (of any color). This was good, because it was based on economics/class, and not accusatory name-calling. Now, the identity aspect is top priority. We all must categorize ourselves, then vote accordingly. It’s so stupid.
There also happens to be a strong correlation between what the Party has emphasized and what results in the highest ratings for the mainstream media outlets. What’s going to get people riled up more- arguing over whether or not the president is racist... or debating the in-depth details of a tax plan strategy?
Rexxing wrote:
Likely just . . . .
^HardLoper
If having a college degree makes one more likely to be a leftist, it speaks negatively of the impact of current college education, at least in the realm of politics. An idea does not become credible just because it predominates in universities.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
ok, I read the guy's comment as "13% of black vote", NOT "13% of black MEN " vote. I had not seen it broken down that specifically. My mistake.
So, I was correcting the poster (which name was he using, Oracle....lol) on something he did not say. But my #'s weren't wrong either, just not on what he said.
I wrote: "Exit polls show he won EIGHT % of the black vote. Not 13. Big difference. "
Now have a good laugh on me misreading his statement.
(Again, my #'s weren't wrong, I just corrected him on something he didn't say. At least I don't tweet completely false stats like president Trump does about blacks. )
Now if I'm a "LIAR" because of this mis-read, what does that make Trump?? Oy vay, Liar Extraordinaire!
lolz
Aasdas wrote:
If having a college degree makes one more likely to be a leftist, it speaks negatively of the impact of current college education, at least in the realm of politics. An idea does not become credible just because it predominates in universities.
It's not that colleges MAKE people liberal. It's that intelligence is highly correlated with being progressive. And intelligence is highly correlated with being a college grad. So, of course, most educated people are liberal and uneducated people are conservative.
Why aren't the Democrats horrified by the massive corruption at the FBI and DOJ?
The Oracle of Reality wrote:
But it was nice that a couple responders were able to admit it. As one said, the Democratic Party used to be for elevating the working man (of any color). This was good, because it was based on economics/class, and not accusatory name-calling. Now, the identity aspect is top priority. We all must categorize ourselves, then vote accordingly. It’s so stupid.
There also happens to be a strong correlation between what the Party has emphasized and what results in the highest ratings for the mainstream media outlets. What’s going to get people riled up more- arguing over whether or not the president is racist... or debating the in-depth details of a tax plan strategy?
The Democratic Party strongly supports things like less corporate money/influence in politics, improved union/worker rights, universal healthcare access, paid family leave, higher minimum wages, more infrastructure spending, a more equitable/progressive revenue system, more emphasis higher education/worker training programs, and rural broadband access. Are you honestly not aware of this?
These are all broad, primarily class-based economic policies and it's well-known that they are included in the Democratic Party Platform. Hillary Clinton stumped for all of them. In fact, she spent far, far more time talking about these issues than "identity politics", the "liberal" media just rarely covered it (filming empty podiums before Trump's speeches was somehow considered better for ratings).
It's completely disingenuous to imply that Democrats ignored the tax bill to focus on Trump's racism. Democrats were the only ones the wanted to debate the in-depth details of the tax plan! The 1986 reform effort took 18 months and Republicans passed the Tax Cuts and Deficits Act this time around in a matter of weeks. They did it without any Democratic input and they tried to prevent any kind of real analysis. When that failed, they just resorted to outright lying about what their plan would do and implied that nonpartisan entities like the CBO were just in the tank for Democrats. All Trump had to say is that he knows taxes better than the world's smartest CPA, and that was analysis enough for his supporters.
Curious Jorge wrote:
Why aren't the Democrats horrified by the massive corruption at the FBI and DOJ?
Got a little something just for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo