This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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I miss Twoggle, yolos, sub9, thayne, and others. They all left when they realized they couldn’t win - just like I told them. Maybe in the future they’ll listen to me the first time 😂
I miss Twoggle, yolos, sub9, thayne, and others. They all left when they realized they couldn’t win - just like I told them. Maybe in the future they’ll listen to me the first time 😂
Ok, I don’t know why I’m responding, because that’s all you want, just to keep trolling… but, I can unabashedly tell you you haven’t won anything, and nobody is listening to you, not now, or not in the beginning. Except for three people on this thread. This thread is stale and boring, and that’s why you’ve had attrition. It’s that simple.
I brought up yet another true story about my daughter, then you incessantly posted about a weird preoccupation with my daughter, including her “extracurricular activities,” because, put simply, that’s who you are, that’s your character. I brought her up to point out the entrenched dogma of “medicine,” as it were.
She’s also going abroad. I told her they may have different requirements, and, she’s obviously an adult and has her own volition and should absolutely get a booster if she wants one. To which she replied, absolutely not, the only people on campus who didn’t get this most recent bout of Covid were, in fact, unvaccinated. Because natural immunity likely conveys a much better cell mediated and cellular memory response to all the different viral epitopes. People, in real time, can see this for themselves.
They actually had an athlete death on campus, from a stroke, and they all wondered among themselves if it was the vaccine. Whether you agree with it or it’s captured in the “official” data or these people just “must be low IQ,” is never going to stop anyone from making this calculation for themselves. They all wondered this aloud.
As I said, I actually got Covid from a vaccinated super spreader who was confident she couldn’t spread it, because the CDC told her so. I would encourage Monkeys Skyping to read a book called Osler’s Web, if he really wants to understand the CDC, how politicized it actually is, how bought and paid for by pharma it actually is. Why people are right to be skeptical about the official data. Why people are right to be skeptical when vaccine trials were set up to exclude anyone who already had natural immunity for fear of a hyper-immune response. How it’s possible that so many longer term vaccine injuries, like my young, fit friend, who now has a pacemaker and admits the cardiac injury likely came from the vaccine, didn’t make its way to VAERS. Can’t prove it of course.
Fisky’s points are valid. Walensky should’ve been able to get up in front of a microphone and state that 98% of her employees were vaccinated. No exceptions, except for perhaps a medical issue. Because that’s what they were pushing on the public. It’s not just obese and overweight people (where “science” has shown adipose tissue helps sustain the infection), it was also old people, people with comorbidities, and, especially all three. Those were the most vulnerable people. They should’ve been protected, to the best of our ability, vaccinated to the best of our ability, or, minimally prescribed a cocktail similar to what a George Fareed or Richard Urso used with great success, if they otherwise refused. But, those guys are “charlatans.”
So you carry on about Djokovic and his poor play, which is attributable to long COVID. Your one anecdotal observation that is somehow a better observation than my friend with the pacemaker. Amazing how Djokovic didn’t develop this long COVID until 2024 after last having the illness in 2021. Amazing he had his best year ever last year. Yep, must be long Covid. Nevermind that in the history of tennis, we’ve never had an over 35-year old be able to beat the 21-year olds consistently. Djokovic’s time is coming to an end, and it has nothing to do with long COVID.
So, you see, people are leaving the thread because they are tired of you, it’s stagnant, and it’s a waste of time. Nothing you can possibly write or “data” you can produce will ever convince someone like me that I made a bad decision not getting vaccinated, especially as I observed all the rules, masking, distancing, quarantining. People like me irritate the heck out our health “authorities” because we blew up the paradigm, while still observing the rules except for one, the one that was unnecessary for so many of us. And there are many of us.
You’re boring dude, a megalomaniacal narcissist, of very poor character, and just simply an unwise, young person. Nobody wants to waste their time on you anymore. It’s that simple.
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I miss Twoggle, yolos, sub9, thayne, and others. They all left when they realized they couldn’t win - just like I told them. Maybe in the future they’ll listen to me the first time 😂
Ok, I don’t know why I’m responding, because that’s all you want, just to keep trolling… but, I can unabashedly tell you you haven’t won anything, and nobody is listening to you, not now, or not in the beginning. Except for three people on this thread. This thread is stale and boring, and that’s why you’ve had attrition. It’s that simple.
I brought up yet another true story about my daughter, then you incessantly posted about a weird preoccupation with my daughter, including her “extracurricular activities,” because, put simply, that’s who you are, that’s your character. I brought her up to point out the entrenched dogma of “medicine,” as it were.
She’s also going abroad. I told her they may have different requirements, and, she’s obviously an adult and has her own volition and should absolutely get a booster if she wants one. To which she replied, absolutely not, the only people on campus who didn’t get this most recent bout of Covid were, in fact, unvaccinated. Because natural immunity likely conveys a much better cell mediated and cellular memory response to all the different viral epitopes. People, in real time, can see this for themselves.
They actually had an athlete death on campus, from a stroke, and they all wondered among themselves if it was the vaccine. Whether you agree with it or it’s captured in the “official” data or these people just “must be low IQ,” is never going to stop anyone from making this calculation for themselves. They all wondered this aloud.
As I said, I actually got Covid from a vaccinated super spreader who was confident she couldn’t spread it, because the CDC told her so. I would encourage Monkeys Skyping to read a book called Osler’s Web, if he really wants to understand the CDC, how politicized it actually is, how bought and paid for by pharma it actually is. Why people are right to be skeptical about the official data. Why people are right to be skeptical when vaccine trials were set up to exclude anyone who already had natural immunity for fear of a hyper-immune response. How it’s possible that so many longer term vaccine injuries, like my young, fit friend, who now has a pacemaker and admits the cardiac injury likely came from the vaccine, didn’t make its way to VAERS. Can’t prove it of course.
Fisky’s points are valid. Walensky should’ve been able to get up in front of a microphone and state that 98% of her employees were vaccinated. No exceptions, except for perhaps a medical issue. Because that’s what they were pushing on the public. It’s not just obese and overweight people (where “science” has shown adipose tissue helps sustain the infection), it was also old people, people with comorbidities, and, especially all three. Those were the most vulnerable people. They should’ve been protected, to the best of our ability, vaccinated to the best of our ability, or, minimally prescribed a cocktail similar to what a George Fareed or Richard Urso used with great success, if they otherwise refused. But, those guys are “charlatans.”
So you carry on about Djokovic and his poor play, which is attributable to long COVID. Your one anecdotal observation that is somehow a better observation than my friend with the pacemaker. Amazing how Djokovic didn’t develop this long COVID until 2024 after last having the illness in 2021. Amazing he had his best year ever last year. Yep, must be long Covid. Nevermind that in the history of tennis, we’ve never had an over 35-year old be able to beat the 21-year olds consistently. Djokovic’s time is coming to an end, and it has nothing to do with long COVID.
So, you see, people are leaving the thread because they are tired of you, it’s stagnant, and it’s a waste of time. Nothing you can possibly write or “data” you can produce will ever convince someone like me that I made a bad decision not getting vaccinated, especially as I observed all the rules, masking, distancing, quarantining. People like me irritate the heck out our health “authorities” because we blew up the paradigm, while still observing the rules except for one, the one that was unnecessary for so many of us. And there are many of us.
You’re boring dude, a megalomaniacal narcissist, of very poor character, and just simply an unwise, young person. Nobody wants to waste their time on you anymore. It’s that simple.
To recap:
1. You definitely didn't leave because I kept owning you
2. Your fake daughter continues to ruin her career prospects
3. You are glad the CDC released multiple reports repeatedly underlining key comorbidities with COVID, including obesity
4. You idol, Chokervic, suffered one of the most embarrassing upsets which I predicted after my genius diagnosis
I miss Twoggle, yolos, sub9, thayne, and others. They all left when they realized they couldn’t win - just like I told them. Maybe in the future they’ll listen to me the first time 😂
OMG how could I forget Birdbox. It's been so sad not having you guys around.
I find it funny the antivaxxers are now going with 'the CDC should have told people not to be old and fat,' when they quite literally did that for like 18 months until we had good vaccine coverage -- and continue to do so when recommending new boosters to those people specifically.
This isn't even a misunderstanding, antivaxxers are just fabricating claims because they've been so hilariously owned.
Ok, I don’t know why I’m responding, because that’s all you want, just to keep trolling… but, I can unabashedly tell you you haven’t won anything, and nobody is listening to you, not now, or not in the beginning. Except for three people on this thread. This thread is stale and boring, and that’s why you’ve had attrition. It’s that simple.
I brought up yet another true story about my daughter, then you incessantly posted about a weird preoccupation with my daughter, including her “extracurricular activities,” because, put simply, that’s who you are, that’s your character. I brought her up to point out the entrenched dogma of “medicine,” as it were.
She’s also going abroad. I told her they may have different requirements, and, she’s obviously an adult and has her own volition and should absolutely get a booster if she wants one. To which she replied, absolutely not, the only people on campus who didn’t get this most recent bout of Covid were, in fact, unvaccinated. Because natural immunity likely conveys a much better cell mediated and cellular memory response to all the different viral epitopes. People, in real time, can see this for themselves.
They actually had an athlete death on campus, from a stroke, and they all wondered among themselves if it was the vaccine. Whether you agree with it or it’s captured in the “official” data or these people just “must be low IQ,” is never going to stop anyone from making this calculation for themselves. They all wondered this aloud.
As I said, I actually got Covid from a vaccinated super spreader who was confident she couldn’t spread it, because the CDC told her so. I would encourage Monkeys Skyping to read a book called Osler’s Web, if he really wants to understand the CDC, how politicized it actually is, how bought and paid for by pharma it actually is. Why people are right to be skeptical about the official data. Why people are right to be skeptical when vaccine trials were set up to exclude anyone who already had natural immunity for fear of a hyper-immune response. How it’s possible that so many longer term vaccine injuries, like my young, fit friend, who now has a pacemaker and admits the cardiac injury likely came from the vaccine, didn’t make its way to VAERS. Can’t prove it of course.
Fisky’s points are valid. Walensky should’ve been able to get up in front of a microphone and state that 98% of her employees were vaccinated. No exceptions, except for perhaps a medical issue. Because that’s what they were pushing on the public. It’s not just obese and overweight people (where “science” has shown adipose tissue helps sustain the infection), it was also old people, people with comorbidities, and, especially all three. Those were the most vulnerable people. They should’ve been protected, to the best of our ability, vaccinated to the best of our ability, or, minimally prescribed a cocktail similar to what a George Fareed or Richard Urso used with great success, if they otherwise refused. But, those guys are “charlatans.”
So you carry on about Djokovic and his poor play, which is attributable to long COVID. Your one anecdotal observation that is somehow a better observation than my friend with the pacemaker. Amazing how Djokovic didn’t develop this long COVID until 2024 after last having the illness in 2021. Amazing he had his best year ever last year. Yep, must be long Covid. Nevermind that in the history of tennis, we’ve never had an over 35-year old be able to beat the 21-year olds consistently. Djokovic’s time is coming to an end, and it has nothing to do with long COVID.
So, you see, people are leaving the thread because they are tired of you, it’s stagnant, and it’s a waste of time. Nothing you can possibly write or “data” you can produce will ever convince someone like me that I made a bad decision not getting vaccinated, especially as I observed all the rules, masking, distancing, quarantining. People like me irritate the heck out our health “authorities” because we blew up the paradigm, while still observing the rules except for one, the one that was unnecessary for so many of us. And there are many of us.
You’re boring dude, a megalomaniacal narcissist, of very poor character, and just simply an unwise, young person. Nobody wants to waste their time on you anymore. It’s that simple.
To recap:
1. You definitely didn't leave because I kept owning you
2. Your fake daughter continues to ruin her career prospects
3. You are glad the CDC released multiple reports repeatedly underlining key comorbidities with COVID, including obesity
4. You idol, Chokervic, suffered one of the most embarrassing upsets which I predicted after my genius diagnosis
5. You're definitely not mad
Welcome back!
Proved my point. Totally embarrassing response. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
1. You definitely didn't leave because I kept owning you
2. Your fake daughter continues to ruin her career prospects
3. You are glad the CDC released multiple reports repeatedly underlining key comorbidities with COVID, including obesity
4. You idol, Chokervic, suffered one of the most embarrassing upsets which I predicted after my genius diagnosis
5. You're definitely not mad
Welcome back!
Proved my point. Totally embarrassing response. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
You wrote the next Great American Novel bro and continued every thread of fabricated BS that you started before. Fake daughter. Random anecdotes. Making excuses for Chokervic's long COVID. Demanding the CDC do things they already do.
And when someone stands up to you? You just fold like a lawn chair and leave.
Proved my point. Totally embarrassing response. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
You wrote the next Great American Novel bro and continued every thread of fabricated BS that you started before. Fake daughter. Random anecdotes. Making excuses for Chokervic's long COVID. Demanding the CDC do things they already do.
And when someone stands up to you? You just fold like a lawn chair and leave.
Predictable. Boring. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
You wrote the next Great American Novel bro and continued every thread of fabricated BS that you started before. Fake daughter. Random anecdotes. Making excuses for Chokervic's long COVID. Demanding the CDC do things they already do.
And when someone stands up to you? You just fold like a lawn chair and leave.
Predictable. Boring. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
Haharambe has poison in her veins, triggers the bad attitude towards those who don’t. Djoker is the best to ever do it and she’s jealous cause he stood strong.
You wrote the next Great American Novel bro and continued every thread of fabricated BS that you started before. Fake daughter. Random anecdotes. Making excuses for Chokervic's long COVID. Demanding the CDC do things they already do.
And when someone stands up to you? You just fold like a lawn chair and leave.
Predictable. Boring. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
See ya! Can’t take the heat, stop making up daughters in the kitchen.
Predictable. Boring. Yawn. I wonder why people left.
Haharambe has poison in her veins, triggers the bad attitude towards those who don’t. Djoker is the best to ever do it and she’s jealous cause he stood strong.
Chokervic lost in one of the biggest upsets in tennis history after I diagnosed him with Long Covid. I won.
Aired March 7, 2024. Buy me a coffee if you want to support this channel: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/fanaticvoyage [FULL TRANSCRIPT BELOW] “We’re up to over 1.6 million reports in VAERS in the conte
I find it funny the antivaxxers are now going with 'the CDC should have told people not to be old and fat,' when they quite literally did that for like 18 months until we had good vaccine coverage -- and continue to do so when recommending new boosters to those people specifically.
This isn't even a misunderstanding, antivaxxers are just fabricating claims because they've been so hilariously owned.
No.
There was no significant effort by Dr. Fauci or the CDC (Walensky) to inform the public about obesity increasing the risks of hospitalization or death from covid.
Until his retirement, Dr. Fauci was the spokesperson for steps to prevent COVID. Throughout 2020 and 2021, he was cited on TV several times a day. From April 2020, his mantra was "mask and social distance" until the vaccine came out in Dec 2020 and then his mantra became "get vaccinated, mask and social distance."
I challenge you to find one time. One. Single. Time. When Dr. Fauci urged people who were obese to lose weight.
I've already done the search. I could not find a single interview where Dr. Fauci urged people who were obese to lose weight.
I did find one... one... interview where it came up. Fauci was asked directly about obesity, but instead of urging people to lose weight to reduce the risk from covid, HE MADE EXCUSES FOR THEIR OBESITY!
Since others reading this thread will be curious. Here's the actual transcript excerpt.
----22 March 2021---
Hewitt: ...ought we to begin now an effort to get people to lose weight?
Fauci: Yeah. I mean, obesity is an epidemic in this country, Hugh. I mean, that’s really one of the unfortunate situations. And there’s so many reasons for that, you know, that date back from the time a person is a child, the kind of diet that they get exposed to. That’s something, and it’s particularly disproportionate in certain demographic groups. I mean, African-American and Latinx population clearly, almost certainly related to the lack of accessibility early on when they’re children of a completely varied and healthy diet.
Source: Dr. Anthony Fauci On Variants, Immunity, New Therapies and Reaching the Skeptical, 22 Mar 2021, Hugh Hewitt interview.
Effectively, Fauci is saying that "you may be fat, but it's not your fault." What Fauci should have said not once but a thousand times. "The government is doing what it can, but every person needs to accept that they are responsible for their own health decisions and that includes not just getting vaccinated and wearing a mask; it means losing weight if you're obese because obesity greatly increases your risk of hospitalization or worse from covid."
How many lives could have been saved if Fauci had taken the 18 seconds it takes to say that every time he was on TV?
Meanwhile, a Harvard Medical School article reported that 39% of adults gained weight in the first year or so of the pandemic. 10% gained more than 12.5 pounds. 2% (that's 5M people!) gained more than 27.5 pounds.
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I find it funny the antivaxxers are now going with 'the CDC should have told people not to be old and fat,' when they quite literally did that for like 18 months until we had good vaccine coverage -- and continue to do so when recommending new boosters to those people specifically.
This isn't even a misunderstanding, antivaxxers are just fabricating claims because they've been so hilariously owned.
No.
There was no significant effort by Dr. Fauci or the CDC (Walensky) to inform the public about obesity increasing the risks of hospitalization or death from covid.
Until his retirement, Dr. Fauci was the spokesperson for steps to prevent COVID. Throughout 2020 and 2021, he was cited on TV several times a day. From April 2020, his mantra was "mask and social distance" until the vaccine came out in Dec 2020 and then his mantra became "get vaccinated, mask and social distance."
I challenge you to find one time. One. Single. Time. When Dr. Fauci urged people who were obese to lose weight.
I've already done the search. I could not find a single interview where Dr. Fauci urged people who were obese to lose weight.
I did find one... one... interview where it came up. Fauci was asked directly about obesity, but instead of urging people to lose weight to reduce the risk from covid, HE MADE EXCUSES FOR THEIR OBESITY!
Since others reading this thread will be curious. Here's the actual transcript excerpt.
----22 March 2021---
Hewitt: ...ought we to begin now an effort to get people to lose weight?
Fauci: Yeah. I mean, obesity is an epidemic in this country, Hugh. I mean, that’s really one of the unfortunate situations. And there’s so many reasons for that, you know, that date back from the time a person is a child, the kind of diet that they get exposed to. That’s something, and it’s particularly disproportionate in certain demographic groups. I mean, African-American and Latinx population clearly, almost certainly related to the lack of accessibility early on when they’re children of a completely varied and healthy diet.
Source: Dr. Anthony Fauci On Variants, Immunity, New Therapies and Reaching the Skeptical, 22 Mar 2021, Hugh Hewitt interview.
Effectively, Fauci is saying that "you may be fat, but it's not your fault." What Fauci should have said not once but a thousand times. "The government is doing what it can, but every person needs to accept that they are responsible for their own health decisions and that includes not just getting vaccinated and wearing a mask; it means losing weight if you're obese because obesity greatly increases your risk of hospitalization or worse from covid."
How many lives could have been saved if Fauci had taken the 18 seconds it takes to say that every time he was on TV?
Meanwhile, a Harvard Medical School article reported that 39% of adults gained weight in the first year or so of the pandemic. 10% gained more than 12.5 pounds. 2% (that's 5M people!) gained more than 27.5 pounds.
The key is to not be old af then. Nobody cares about old people that’s why republicans want to take their Medicare and social security away.