I dunno bud, they both claim to be men of “science”, shirtless a lot, talk funny, and make crazy claims. don’t think I’ve ever seen RFK with nasal strips, but can almost guarantee he also has a pee bucket and fav dog.
Hey Claude, what say you….
”Both frame themselves as challengers to entrenched orthodoxy. Roche criticizes what he calls the “running industrial complex” and traditional high-mileage, high-intensity training dogma. RFK Jr. positions himself against pharmaceutical companies, regulatory agencies, and mainstream medicine. Both suggest that vested interests corrupt the advice people receive. Appealing to “natural” approaches: Roche emphasizes running as joyful, sustainable, and aligned with how bodies naturally adapt—lots of easy running, listening to your body, avoiding overtraining. RFK Jr. promotes “natural immunity,” skepticism of synthetic interventions, and a return to pre-industrial health practices. Both invoke nature as an authority. Personal narrative as evidence: Roche frequently uses anecdotes from his coaching practice and his own athletic journey to support his methods. RFK Jr. relies heavily on personal stories and testimonials from vaccine-injured individuals. Both leverage emotional, individual stories alongside (or sometimes instead of) aggregate data. Distrust of profit motives: Roche questions whether shoe companies, supplement makers, and race organizations give advice that serves runners or their bottom lines. RFK Jr. questions whether pharmaceutical companies prioritize health or profits. Both suggest financial incentives distort scientific guidance. Building loyal communities: Both have cultivated devoted followings who see them as truth-tellers willing to say what others won’t. Their audiences often feel empowered by rejecting mainstream advice. The structural similarity is real: both use skepticism of established expertise to build alternative frameworks that resonate with people who feel failed by conventional approaches.”
Wow, man, the new one vitamin a day/feed promo hits most of these similarities ….
Looks like both Megs and David saw how competitive BC is shaping up to be and now have convenient “medical issues” to pull out. Best to stick to local and washed up races to keep their YouTube fans stoked!
He’s probably following one of his cut & paste training plans, I hear that’s a great way to get injured
Wow, man, the new one vitamin a day/feed promo hits most of these similarities ….
and shirts off!
Hey Claude, do your thing:
Oh good, another athlete who’s cracked the code that Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know about: expensive urine. Let’s break down this masterpiece of supplement marketing disguised as a personal testimonial: The Humblebrags Are Chef’s Kiss “I’m so dominant that I’m reluctant to share my secret advantage” followed immediately by “I’m not competitive enough to keep secrets.” Pick a lane, Multi-V Gollum. You can’t simultaneously be crushing ultras with your vitamin-fueled superiority AND be the selfless guru just wanting everyone to succeed. The Bloodwork Saga You went from “not actively dying” to “almost unfair hemoglobin levels” and the only variable that changed was… a multivitamin? Not, say, working with “the best coach in the business”? Not training for elite ultramarathons? Just the pills? The ambulance doctor must have been like “Sir, your hemoglobin is immaculate. What’s your secret?” as they’re extracting fence debris from your body. The Science Section Is Adorable “Studies range from neutral to good to great” is doing some HEAVY lifting here. That’s like saying “reviews of my garage band range from ‘please stop’ to ‘not terrible’ to ‘my mom said we’re amazing.’” Also citing memory studies in older adults when you’re presumably not collecting Social Security is… a choice. The Closing Act Nothing says “authentic recommendation” like ending with a completely unprompted endorsement of a second product from a company that “doesn’t even know” you’re shilling for them. Sure, Jan. But hey, if peeing out $40/month gets you on podiums, who am I to judge? I’m just out here with my regular-priced urine like a sucker.
Bunch of jealous b@stards cause you don’t get to write feed emails. You must hate getting emails from David and Matt every weekend.
Any type of advertising is annoying at best. When you try to disguise it as “hey guys I’m your friend! Let me help you spend all your money. Check out all this kewl science!!” It’s even worse. But it’s no surprise all the SWAP dorks go running for their wallets, sheep do what sheep do…
2 years in a row in the top UROY 🏃♂️🔥. You good for nothing sons of b!tches could never! YOU ALL GO HOME DEVASTATED!! Call an ambulance 🚑 because you 🤡 may have a heart attack.
2 years in a row in the top UROY 🏃♂️🔥. You good for nothing sons of b!tches could never! YOU ALL GO HOME DEVASTATED!! Call an ambulance 🚑 because you 🤡 may have a heart attack.
I crushed him at western states, where he nearly died. peace.
2 years in a row in the top UROY 🏃♂️🔥. You good for nothing sons of b!tches could never! YOU ALL GO HOME DEVASTATED!! Call an ambulance 🚑 because you 🤡 may have a heart attack.
I crushed him at western states, where he nearly died. peace.
2 years in a row in the top UROY 🏃♂️🔥. You good for nothing sons of b!tches could never! YOU ALL GO HOME DEVASTATED!! Call an ambulance 🚑 because you 🤡 may have a heart attack.
There’s 90 pages in this thread and not a single post from anyone saying he’s not a talented runner. But cool flex I guess?
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"Brief palate-cleanser: Jeff Pelletier’s interview with Cody Bare on the Creators Cooldown podcast is brilliantly illuminating.
Bare’s reflections on the Godard-esque Twin Lakes sequence in Nothing To Lose are a reminder that those moments aren’t staged performance so much as documentary problem-solving under constraint. As he puts it: 'You can’t go in with a plan of, like, he’s going to have this perfect day … the story is going to unfold.'
That ethos—attention over control, adaptation over scripting—feels very much in keeping with David and Megan’s broader approach. You don’t have to love the tone to recognise the through-line: trust the process, accept the mess, let reality intrude.
In any case, it’s a far more interesting conversation than the noise elsewhere on these pages. A recommended listen."
"Brief palate-cleanser: Jeff Pelletier’s interview with Cody Bare on the Creators Cooldown podcast is brilliantly illuminating.
Bare’s reflections on the Godard-esque Twin Lakes sequence in Nothing To Lose are a reminder that those moments aren’t staged performance so much as documentary problem-solving under constraint. As he puts it: 'You can’t go in with a plan of, like, he’s going to have this perfect day … the story is going to unfold.'
That ethos—attention over control, adaptation over scripting—feels very much in keeping with David and Megan’s broader approach. You don’t have to love the tone to recognise the through-line: trust the process, accept the mess, let reality intrude.
In any case, it’s a far more interesting conversation than the noise elsewhere on these pages. A recommended listen."
Do you still not realize how ham-fisted your excessive use of italics is?
"Brief palate-cleanser: Jeff Pelletier’s interview with Cody Bare on the Creators Cooldown podcast is brilliantly illuminating.
Bare’s reflections on the Godard-esque Twin Lakes sequence in Nothing To Lose are a reminder that those moments aren’t staged performance so much as documentary problem-solving under constraint. As he puts it: 'You can’t go in with a plan of, like, he’s going to have this perfect day … the story is going to unfold.'
That ethos—attention over control, adaptation over scripting—feels very much in keeping with David and Megan’s broader approach. You don’t have to love the tone to recognise the through-line: trust the process, accept the mess, let reality intrude.
In any case, it’s a far more interesting conversation than the noise elsewhere on these pages. A recommended listen."
Hey David. Cody is not a director. He’s a kid with a camera and a drone that you have groomed into a marketing tool for the Feed and yourself. Maybe you are too caught up in the YouTuber influencer world now to understand what real cinematic art is. And wow you sound extra douchey today, reaching new levels!
2 years in a row in the top UROY 🏃♂️🔥. You good for nothing sons of b!tches could never! YOU ALL GO HOME DEVASTATED!! Call an ambulance 🚑 because you 🤡 may have a heart attack.
There’s 90 pages in this thread and not a single post from anyone saying he’s not a talented runner. But cool flex I guess?
Ya think we should care about a stranger’s life? I don’t. He’s a better runner than you. So go 😢 about it or I can 📞 an 🚑 for you because you seriously need psychiatric help pronto.
There’s 90 pages in this thread and not a single post from anyone saying he’s not a talented runner. But cool flex I guess?
Ya think we should care about a stranger’s life? I don’t. He’s a better runner than you. So go 😢 about it or I can 📞 an 🚑 for you because you seriously need psychiatric help pronto.
Just think, if hadn't had that mental breakdown when I beat him at states, he could have at least beat Ben Dhiman. yeah, think about it. peace.
There’s 90 pages in this thread and not a single post from anyone saying he’s not a talented runner. But cool flex I guess?
Ya think we should care about a stranger’s life? I don’t. He’s a better runner than you. So go 😢 about it or I can 📞 an 🚑 for you because you seriously need psychiatric help pronto.
🥱 since we are using emojis now
I don't think anyone following this thread or Roche is too surprised about his placement UROY. And I'm pretty sure most of us don't care about that too much either.
Ya think we should care about a stranger’s life? I don’t. He’s a better runner than you. So go 😢 about it or I can 📞 an 🚑 for you because you seriously need psychiatric help pronto.
🥱 since we are using emojis now
I don't think anyone following this thread or Roche is too surprised about his placement UROY. And I'm pretty sure most of us don't care about that too much either.
I have a question for those that may know - is using the acronym, 'UROY', typical, or is it usually just called Ultra Runner is the Year?
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